Ender
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Post by Ender on Mar 9, 2016 20:06:22 GMT
Why do you think it's Will and not Janet who needs to keep it secret? I don't. Like everyone else, I'm assuming the secret has to do with Janet's father. But there can be a gap between what you need to do and what you wish for. Even Janet could become tired of a secret she has kept for years. What she did (needling her own boyfriend into asking someone else out) was irrational. So I'm looking for emotional triggers that could have pushed her to do it. But there may be no other reason than getting trapped in the situation and not managing to back out in the instant it's happening. I think it's probably mostly that last thing. She teased William about it (I think maybe because she was jealous), and didn't expect it to go as far as it did. When Kat started telling William he should ask Annie out, she couldn't back down without it looking suspicious, so she's all like "yeah, why don't you ask her out?", and meanwhile she's sweating bullets. |
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Post by Per on Mar 9, 2016 20:37:54 GMT
and meanwhile she's sweating bullets. And that's why an artillerywoman a Steadman person? is never out of ammunition. |
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 9, 2016 21:44:05 GMT
Wait, knowing what would happen to Annie if she got pregnant (I assume at least Kat knows), they still wanted to hook Annie and Will up? She conclusion-jumps over any potential problems, not digs into whether they are solvable practically. I would dearly love to see William tell Annie that what he said about missing her is true even though he and Janet are together. Annie could use some affirmation that she has friends who really do miss her. This may be more than anyone should expect from a fifteen year old boy, but it would be nice to see. Does the first half of current page qualify?  So... let's cut the fresh gunner-cookies. I predicted it was Kat&Paz excessive enthusiasm: Kat & Paz may be just in "viral newlyweds" mode right now and didn't think it through in all the excitement. Who called Janet's sharp tongue first? |
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Post by zimmyzims on Mar 9, 2016 22:32:57 GMT
Janet's still being a total dick, though. A little prank on Will, no problems, but to use Annie as a means to that prank while she's completely unaware of it and already isolated from all her friends is dickery. Fortunately she seems to have remained unaware of what Will was doing all the way until they explained it to her. Imagine if she actually had fell for Will. Yeah it's one thing to do all this with someone who has no apparent problem, it's another matter when Annie has been through so much recently. I guess Janet didn't realize the problem because she is so very...constantly theatrical? William seems to be able to switch that aspect off better. Annie looks like she's taking all this well but I would horribly, horribly pissed off. My guess is the reason she is not horribly pissed off is that she did not fall to this plot. She never understood what Will was doing until they explained, so she hasn't got emotionally engaged in this, and now they explained and excused it before she understands that she could be offended by this. And then, I predict that although she may later feel bad about this having happened, her - to my mind rather plausible, since she is not emotionally engaged in this - first instance emotion is more curiosity about JanetxWill (already showing, obviously) and as she's now the only one who knows about it, from this "privileged" position of having that knowledge her second reaction is probably to want to conspire with them either to conceal or to reveal their relationship (there may be a combination of revealing just to their friends and collectively conceal from Janet's father). Or not. But my guess is that it is. |
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Post by stclair on Mar 9, 2016 23:22:21 GMT
Anywhere else but the Court, I would heartily agree that this just needs to be out in the open, Headmaster's daughter or not.
And then I remember how Jeanne wound up by the side of the river.
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Post by todd on Mar 10, 2016 0:08:04 GMT
And then I remember how Jeanne wound up by the side of the river. Except that Winsbury's one of the people in the Court, not the Forest. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Mar 10, 2016 1:30:47 GMT
I would dearly love to see William tell Annie that what he said about missing her is true even though he and Janet are together. Annie could use some affirmation that she has friends who really do miss her. This may be more than anyone should expect from a fifteen year old boy, but it would be nice to see. Does the first half of current page qualify? William mentioned it, but I think Annie probably needs to hear it again, with special emphasis, for it to sink in. |
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Post by csj on Mar 10, 2016 2:02:09 GMT
'A splendid idea, Kat. After all, it's not like he's totally interested and in a stable relationship with another girl or anything'
*dagger glares*
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Post by aline on Mar 10, 2016 11:07:56 GMT
Wait, knowing what would happen to Annie if she got pregnant (I assume at least Kat knows), they still wanted to hook Annie and Will up? There's this thing called contraception, which I'm sure even Court students have heard about. |
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Post by speedwell on Mar 10, 2016 16:44:01 GMT
Wait, knowing what would happen to Annie if she got pregnant (I assume at least Kat knows), they still wanted to hook Annie and Will up? There's this thing called contraception, which I'm sure even Court students have heard about. Honey, I'm going to be 50 this year. If I had a wooden nickel for every time I heard of a birth control failure, I'd have to start a paper mill. I know women who had babies with an IUD, an implant, after menopause, after their tubes were tied (in one case, twice). I know a woman with a pregnancy that implanted in her abdomen after a hysterectomy. I could link to the case of a young woman who was pregnant and delivered a full-term baby by C-section without having a completely developed vag, ffs. There is literally no such thing as perfect birth control if there is a possibility at all of getting pregnant. In the world in which the Court and Forest exist, there's this thing called magic (or the sufficiently advanced technology equivalent). You think a rubber is going to prevent pregnancy if someone is sufficiently determined? Muahahaha... I mean, wise up. |
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Post by matoyak on Mar 10, 2016 18:54:08 GMT
There's this thing called contraception, which I'm sure even Court students have heard about. Honey ...[snip]... Muahahaha... I mean, wise up. The "honey" I get, Aline was a bit sarcastic, a little bit of bite in your retort's understandable. Why did you feel the need to be so aggressive at the end there, though? Tad out of line. |
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Post by aline on Mar 10, 2016 21:13:10 GMT
There's this thing called contraception, which I'm sure even Court students have heard about. Honey, I'm going to be 50 this year. If I had a wooden nickel for every time I heard of a birth control failure, I'd have to start a paper mill. I know women who had babies with an IUD, an implant, after menopause, after their tubes were tied (in one case, twice). I know a woman with a pregnancy that implanted in her abdomen after a hysterectomy. I could link to the case of a young woman who was pregnant and delivered a full-term baby by C-section without having a completely developed vag, ffs. There is literally no such thing as perfect birth control if there is a possibility at all of getting pregnant. In the world in which the Court and Forest exist, there's this thing called magic (or the sufficiently advanced technology equivalent). You think a rubber is going to prevent pregnancy if someone is sufficiently determined? Muahahaha... I mean, wise up. I do know these things happen. I also know people get into cars and drive to work every day despite the risk of dying in an accident. Bizarrely I doubt Annie is going to renounce ever having a sex life because of the (low - yes I know the statistics) risk of an unwanted pregnancy despite contraception. Nor do I think she should.
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Post by teacup on Mar 11, 2016 3:47:28 GMT
And then I remember how Jeanne wound up by the side of the river. Except that Winsbury's one of the people in the Court, not the Forest. But his hair...it goes up!! Hello, I'm new here. |
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 13, 2016 19:48:52 GMT
Except that Winsbury's one of the people in the Court, not the Forest. But his hair...it goes up!! Hello, I'm new here. Hello. Welcome! Yes, imho Winsbury is totally descended from an inhabitant of the Forest. |
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