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Post by freeman on Jul 29, 2016 16:50:16 GMT
Omega device is actually that arrow thingy in river Annan. Court wants to get rid of it, because it thinks that it finally is strong enough to beat the ether using Forest defences without too many casualties. Note: the court doesn't know the story of Jeanne, but it must be aware of "the gost of Annan" and her function as the preventor of unauthorized entry to either direction over the ravine. |
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Post by keef on Jul 29, 2016 19:29:03 GMT
Omega device is actually that arrow thingy in river Annan. Court wants to get rid of it, because it thinks that it finally is strong enough to beat the ether using Forest defences without too many casualties. , that probably included the knowledge about the arrow. And nowadays the Court doesn't seem to think of the Forest as a threat, but more as a source of workers (and maybe of ether). Pet theory:  Not only did the Court in those days feel safe enough to build a bridge, they actually didn't feel the need to give the Forest a say in the matter. And this bridge is guarded by: an alarm bell. Either they completely trust Coyote to keep his word, or they just don't worry about the Forest anymore. The fact they could build the bridge more or less proves they know what she is. At least enough to keep her away from the builders, maybe using light. (earlier post) |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 2, 2016 11:43:01 GMT
I'm still curious about the significance of the Artilleryman. He's clearly going to be important, since they've been blocked from seeing his record at the RotD, and the whole comic is (indirectly) named after him. But we know nothing about his role or abilities. I'm wondering if he's the one who somehow created the Tic-Tocs, since he parted ways with the Court and nobody in the Court seems to know where they came from. I am putting this reply here in the wild speculation thread because I am pulling it further from the original page thread. IIRC, the Artilleryman found Gunnerkrigg / Gunner's Crag, which I think means he found out how to get to the Forest, led the rest of the founders to the Forest, and may have been instrumental in making the deal with the Forest to form the Court. The very first Court Medium. My current speculation is that the Artilleryman will be the way Annie learns more about the founding of the Court, to include why the Forest agreed to make a deal with humans and why the deal didn't work out. |
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Post by Daedalus on Aug 2, 2016 16:32:20 GMT
I'm wondering if he's the one who somehow created the Tic-Tocs, since he parted ways with the Court and nobody in the Court seems to know where they came from. I am putting this reply here in the wild speculation thread because I am pulling it further from the original page thread. IIRC, the Artilleryman found Gunnerkrigg / Gunner's Crag, which I think means he found out how to get to the Forest, led the rest of the founders to the Forest, and may have been instrumental in making the deal with the Forest to form the Court. The very first Court Medium. My current speculation is that the Artilleryman will be the way Annie learns more about the founding of the Court, to include why the Forest agreed to make a deal with humans and why the deal didn't work out. I support this theory, especially because he refused to be a part of the sacrifice of Jeanne. I always assumed it was because he didn't want to partake in a monstrous sacrifice of an innocent woman, but what if it was also because he didn't want to exacerbate the divisions between Court and Forest? |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 2, 2016 17:25:13 GMT
I am putting this reply here in the wild speculation thread because I am pulling it further from the original page thread. IIRC, the Artilleryman found Gunnerkrigg / Gunner's Crag, which I think means he found out how to get to the Forest, led the rest of the founders to the Forest, and may have been instrumental in making the deal with the Forest to form the Court. The very first Court Medium. My current speculation is that the Artilleryman will be the way Annie learns more about the founding of the Court, to include why the Forest agreed to make a deal with humans and why the deal didn't work out. I support this theory, especially because he refused to be a part of the sacrifice of Jeanne. I always assumed it was because he didn't want to partake in a monstrous sacrifice of an innocent woman, but what if it was also because he didn't want to exacerbate the divisions between Court and Forest? During the initial conflict between the Court and the Forest, the Artilleryman stayed with the Court at least until the Jeanne affair. He must have supported the initial Court's position in the conflict to some extent. I believe the plan to sacrifice Jeanne was the last straw for the Artilleryman, but I can't guess where he went. Coyote had divided the Court and the Forest by then, but maybe the Artilleryman was the last human to cross the Annan Waters. Maybe, but something makes me feel like he either left the Court for the regular world or remained in the Court as an ostracized dissident. I also can't guess how Annie will learn more about the Artilleryman: - hidden Court records - his final record in the ROTD - he's ghost in some part of the Court - he is still alive in the Forest and Coyote introduces him one day - he is still alive in the Court and is a Year 11 teacher (everyone knew but no one told Annie) - he's a ghost in the Court and is a Year 11 teacher (everyone knew but no one told Annie) |
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Post by Gulby on Aug 17, 2016 6:44:31 GMT
I always thought the bridge was built before Jeanne's death. And that its construction was part of Why the green Man is a traitor. Might I be wrong ?
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Post by Daedalus on Aug 17, 2016 7:13:22 GMT
I always thought the bridge was built before Jeanne's death. And that its construction was part of Why the green Man is a traitor. Might I be wrong ? Jeanne's body seemed to be roughly below the foot of the bridge, and no bridge is visible when Steadman shoots the Green Man. But there are a million ways this is inconclusive. There are several other pieces of information suggesting that Jeanne's death predated the bridge, however. First, the bridge would require immense resources to construct, and would not have been necessary before Coyote divided the Forest from the Court. Since the Bridge must have been built after the divide, and would have required some degree of cooperation unlikely during the military ceasefire of Jeanne's time, it's probably a project from a later time. And second, Jeanne seems to have been imprisoned at the Annan Waters to kill anything from the Forest that tries to cross into the Court. A bridge would have made this purpose somewhat (though not wholly) unnecessary, since a Forest being could just cross the bridge (like Evil!Robot or the Tree!Dogs did). TLDR: A bridge seems like a strange project for the Court to build at the pre-Jeanne-but-post-Divide time period...especially considering the atmosphere of xenophobia and paranoia that would lead them to literally perform human sacrifice to keep the Forest inhabitants out. |
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Post by Gulby on Aug 17, 2016 7:22:53 GMT
Thank you for that explanation. It seems I have trouble to remember timeline of Jeanne's period. I'll have to re-read all GKC to get it. Yay !  New wild speculation : Green Man is Coyote in disguise, AND SO IS Steadman. He's a God, he can have the gift of ubiquity if he wants to. And it was all part of his plan. |
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Aug 17, 2016 7:53:34 GMT
Green Man is Coyote in disguise...and it was all part of his plan. But of course! I could be anyone...anywhere! (scare chord)Would I really be THE Trickster if I did any less? |
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Post by Druplesnubb on Aug 31, 2016 18:00:34 GMT
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 31, 2016 22:29:52 GMT
There is not-so-wild speculation that Coyote knows more about Jeanne than he told Annie and is manipulating Annie so she eliminates Jeanne. But Annie met Jeanne before she met Coyote and I think Annie would want to free Jeanne on her own. |
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Post by rafk on Sept 4, 2016 22:38:29 GMT
In desperation, Blue creates a vision of Boxbot and even Jeanne recoils at its terribleness, giving the gang an opening.
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Post by eyemyself on Sept 7, 2016 20:25:15 GMT
For once the gang has actually taken the time to fully assess what they are up against and come up with a comprehensive plan - complete with contingencies. The current situation is challenging, but there aren't any major surprises they can't handle.
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Post by freeman on Sept 10, 2016 13:52:48 GMT
After the current events unfold, Annie will become a fire-water elemental. This will fix her premature death after giving birth syndrome and also make her and her descendants very bad-ass. |
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Post by snowflake on Sept 10, 2016 17:35:50 GMT
After the gang does their thing and Annie tucks Jeanne and Loverboy in to the comfy ether, the cut on ethereal Annie's face heals as if by magic.
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Post by Per on Sept 10, 2016 18:25:48 GMT
After Annie becomes a firewater elemental, she and Muut travel the Old West as carpetbaggers and cardsharps.
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Post by keef on Sept 10, 2016 20:37:11 GMT
After the current events unfold, Annie will become a fire-water elemental. This will fix her premature death after giving birth syndrome and also make her and her descendants very bad-ass. She'll never get off the boil. Writing steamy stuff all the time... (sorry) After the gang does their thing and Annie tucks Jeanne and Loverboy in to the comfy ether, the cut on ethereal Annie's face heals as if by magic. I like to believe that one. |
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Post by keef on Sept 10, 2016 20:46:40 GMT
There is not-so-wild speculation that Coyote knows more about Jeanne than he told Annie and is manipulating Annie so she eliminates Jeanne. But Annie met Jeanne before she met Coyote and I think Annie would want to free Jeanne on her own. He only knows the cut on Annie's face was made by a very powerful creature. That's why he gave Annie his tooth. (of course he may have had other reasons) |
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Post by warrl on Sept 10, 2016 23:54:46 GMT
I'm not aware of a universe or magic-system where whiskey (aka firewater) is considered an element. However, a whiskey elemental would indeed be... interesting... |
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Post by vvaivi on Sept 11, 2016 0:56:41 GMT
I'm not aware of a universe or magic-system where whiskey (aka firewater) is considered an element. However, a whiskey elemental would indeed be... interesting... I prefer a Salt Elemental |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Sept 11, 2016 2:36:06 GMT
There is not-so-wild speculation that Coyote knows more about Jeanne than he told Annie and is manipulating Annie so she eliminates Jeanne. But Annie met Jeanne before she met Coyote and I think Annie would want to free Jeanne on her own. He only knows the cut on Annie's face was made by a very powerful creature. That's why he gave Annie his tooth. (of course he may have had other reasons) Coyote didn't know Jeanne before she was sacrificed, but it is difficult to believe Coyote doesn't know about the Guardian of the Annun Waters. |
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Sept 11, 2016 7:12:22 GMT
There is not-so-wild speculation that Coyote knows more about Jeanne than he told Annie and is manipulating Annie so she eliminates Jeanne. But Annie met Jeanne before she met Coyote and I think Annie would want to free Jeanne on her own. He only knows the cut on Annie's face was made by a very powerful creature. That's why he gave Annie his tooth. (of course he may have had other reasons) "Coyote knows nothing about Jeanne"? Well, that's what Tom thinks. Hehe. It's not like I hang around here or anything... |
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Post by freeman on Sept 11, 2016 8:34:24 GMT
I'm not aware of a universe or magic-system where whiskey (aka firewater) is considered an element. However, a whiskey elemental would indeed be... interesting... Isn't that what a leprechaun is? |
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Post by warrl on Sept 11, 2016 15:45:34 GMT
I'm not aware of a universe or magic-system where whiskey (aka firewater) is considered an element. However, a whiskey elemental would indeed be... interesting... Isn't that what a leprechaun is? Not according to most versions of the mythology. There's a related sort of critter - a clurichaun - that is an alcohol-in-general spirit... But then, some versions have it that a clurichaun is what a leprechaun does while off duty. |
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Post by speedwell on Sept 12, 2016 9:47:11 GMT
Our foremost Sligo celebrity, W.B. Yeats, writes that clurichauns are "almost unknown in Connacht and the North", which means my stock of single-malt Scotch is safe |
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Post by philistine21 on Sept 12, 2016 15:16:49 GMT
I'm not aware of a universe or magic-system where whiskey (aka firewater) is considered an element. However, a whiskey elemental would indeed be... interesting... World of Warcraft had Alementals. "An alemental is a subtype of a water elemental that is made of ale."  |
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Post by Fen on Sept 12, 2016 18:09:01 GMT
Mad speculation of the day: Different kinds of life produce different kinds of 'aether'. Biological life produces the aether-world that Annie interacts with. Technology and synthetic life produces its own aether-world, which is the one Zimmy experiences. Or something. I dunno. Also, random observation: the Court's robots are obsessed / in love with Kat, their 'Angel'. The Whiteleg spiders are also apparently obsessed / in love with Zimmy. |
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Post by snowflake on Oct 1, 2016 21:45:53 GMT
Renard is viscerally terrified of Zimmy. Zimmy is viscerally terrified of Kat. In "Dobranoc, Gamma", Annie and Zimmy sit by passed-out Gamma while Kat gets sent away. In "Divine", Zimmy and Kat sit by passed-out Annie while Gamma gets sent away. In both aforementioned chapters, Zimmy at some point says something about rats only to be told "there are no rats here". www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=198www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1032Will those rats come home to roost one day? |
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Post by bedinsis on Oct 5, 2016 12:56:14 GMT
I don't know if anyone has posted this already but here's my theory on what Jones is. I believe that Jones is the manifestation of man's belief in science over the supernatural, given life through the ether. Just like science, she has seen that Earth is billions of years old. She's cold and emotionless, instead adopting a "neutral" view on the world. Her reason for existing seems to be to watch and observe things, just like science is all about observing how the world works. Yet she doesn't teach humans any secrets that they can't figure out themselves. Just like science she is completely removed from the supernatural, being unable to connect with the ether. Even her ethnicity makes sense, since the atheistic divinity-rejecting worldview is most prominent in the western world. But my main evidence for this theory is her habit of taking the names of the people she comes across. At the surface it's easily the most odd thing about her, being the only thing she cares about besides observing stuff, and going completely against her otherwise emotionless self. I've seen no other theory that can explain this anomalous behavior, but in my theory it's obvious why she does it. Dr. Disaster (the guy wearing a tie with the phrase "Science!" across) is also quite smitten with her. |
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Post by jda on Oct 5, 2016 15:22:15 GMT
After the current events unfold, Annie will become a fire-water elemental. This will fix her premature death after giving birth syndrome and also make her and her descendants very bad-ass. Indeed, this could be a solution, as in giving her "fire" life to her kid, and at the same time keeping her conciousness as a water elemental. |
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