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Post by keef on Jan 26, 2016 12:55:36 GMT
I don't know if anyone has posted this already but here's my theory on what Jones is. It has been mentioned before. But not as eloquently worded. Coyote calls her "Wandering eye" for a reason. And calls her a perfect illustration of his big secret. You lost me here...  But that's probably my limited understanding of physics. |
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Post by l33tninja on Jan 26, 2016 15:49:29 GMT
You lost me here... But that's probably my limited understanding of physics. I think the point here is that Physical Laws take the name of their "discoverer" despite the fact that the Law itself exists, regardless of whether a human has learned about it or not. |
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Post by Druplesnubb on Jan 27, 2016 21:58:51 GMT
You lost me here... But that's probably my limited understanding of physics. The idea is that many famous scientists gets their names preserved through the various laws and phenomena they've discovered. Read the names of all those pages. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 27, 2016 23:34:20 GMT
You lost me here... But that's probably my limited understanding of physics. The idea is that many famous scientists gets their names preserved through the various laws and phenomena they've discovered. 'Twould be a boring universe indeed if every physical law and discovery were named after Jones  |
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Post by l33tninja on Jan 28, 2016 17:33:03 GMT
The idea is that many famous scientists gets their names preserved through the various laws and phenomena they've discovered. 'Twould be a boring universe indeed if every physical law and discovery were named after Jones 'twould also be confusing . . .
"Please use the Jones' constant when calculating the Jones' force in Jonesian time. And then divide by the (other) Jones' constant. Mind your units, keep everything in Joneses per Jones2. Then using Jones' principle, you should be able to find the Jones correlation if you have integrated correctly. Finally, fit your data with a regression to find the Jones point on your curve."
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Post by kajorma on Jan 29, 2016 14:35:07 GMT
'Twould be a boring universe indeed if every physical law and discovery were named after Jones 'twould also be confusing . . .
"Please use the Jones' constant when calculating the Jones' force in Jonesian time. And then divide by the (other) Jones' constant. Mind your units, keep everything in Joneses per Jones2. Then using Jones' principle, you should be able to find the Jones correlation if you have integrated correctly. Finally, fit your data with a regression to find the Jones point on your curve."
Given that she changes her name roughly once a generation, several of those names could be her.  |
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Post by kajorma on Jan 29, 2016 14:43:08 GMT
I'm sure this has been covered, (since this is an old comic, and this forum is ... meticulous) what's been made of Jack's ancestry? We know from the flashback that there was a Hyland that was all opposed to magic and weirdos... let me find that... www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=540I don't know what to make of that, but I doubt the name is a coincidence. |
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Post by hypixion on Feb 28, 2016 19:03:35 GMT
I have no idea if this was said before but I think I have fihured out who this girl with the rabbit is! I think she is the goddess Chang'e, which I found out while watching a video that talks about her on a smite youtube channel. She was banished to the moon where a rabbit lived. "Since then, Chang’e has lived on the moon, forbidden to see her husband, a Jade Rabbit her only companion." I believe this to be the case because she is interested in the moons sudden attack by a huge finger, her clothes and the rabbit. |
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Post by Gotolei on Feb 28, 2016 20:22:43 GMT
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Post by Per on Feb 28, 2016 23:14:59 GMT
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Post by hypixion on Feb 29, 2016 8:57:14 GMT
Even on my re-read, which was a year ago, I didn't see that. Wow, I'll just show myself out...
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Post by kajorma on Mar 2, 2016 14:40:18 GMT
Even on my re-read, which was a year ago, I didn't see that. Wow, I'll just show myself out... I'm so guilty of not reading Tom's comments. Even on rereads, I get wrapped up in the comic and just click next before reading the blurbs at the bottom. I keep telling myself not to do that, but I never listen to me... |
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Post by Druplesnubb on Mar 20, 2016 22:17:01 GMT
I didn't come up with this myself but there's a pretty cool theory that Kat is the computer that's talked about in these pages, thus explaining why she can read the robot language, why she's so good at technology and why she looks like a machine in Zimmingham. Note how it's mentioned that it was created by Kat's mom and dad working together. |
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Post by tiberius on Mar 22, 2016 12:19:22 GMT
I didn't come up with this myself but there's a pretty cool theory that Kat is the computer that's talked about in these pages, thus explaining why she can read the robot language, why she's so good at technology and why she looks like a machine in Zimmingham. Note how it's mentioned that it was created by Kat's mom and dad working together. It's a nice symbol and one of the many parallels I like. I'm not sure, whether you want to call Kat a computer. But I think she does represent a similar approach. The connection of man's knowledge of mathematics and theory (Donald) with a little bit of etheric abilities (Anja). This way, Kat is able to interpret and use source code in a way others can interpret languages but is also able to add what we would call 'magic' to her work to create life. It's a lovely, lovely antithesis to the way, the court produces life for the former ferries and to coyote's theory of how he and his cousin's were created. It isn't the ether alone who produces life, but it isn't just biology and absolutely not just technology. Oh, and what a great way to add biology itself to the duality of the ether and technology through Kat's relationship with Paz. For me, Tom is hinting towards a way better way than just the duality of technology and the ether. It seems as if he is hinting, that all is well and nice, but you can't expect any sensible outcome without an empathy towards the life you are about to create and for which you need to take care of after its creation. |
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Post by birdwhisperer on Mar 23, 2016 0:12:07 GMT
I've got a friend who I've been keeping updated with GK, though he doesn't follow it himself. Lately he's been saying he thinks Renard is going to become a villain, so I had him read the chapter with Hetty. Afterward, he said this and I think it's pretty neat speculation.
CosmicWhaleShark: I think the author of gunnerkrig is going to be more subtle than just making Renard a straight villain.
CosmicWhaleShark: But I definitely think he's going to become a illusioned antagonist and his actions will be justified by his adoration for whatsherface
CosmicWhaleShark: Antimony.
Birdwhisperer: Hmm, maybe.
CosmicWhaleShark: I see it coming.
CosmicWhaleShark: Something is about to go down.
CosmicWhaleShark: This filler is always indicative of some heavy shit about to go down.
CosmicWhaleShark: I've seen enough anime.
Birdwhisperer: This is more like the filler after the heavy stuff
CosmicWhaleShark: So you think.
Birdwhisperer: Before this, her dad came back and completely flipped around her life.
CosmicWhaleShark: That's foreshadowing.
Birdwhisperer: And her fire part was separated from her
CosmicWhaleShark: They're introducing new elements to the story.
Birdwhisperer: I guess it puts her in a position to be at a disadvantage to any new threat
CosmicWhaleShark: Indeedly.
CosmicWhaleShark: Which puts Renard in a position to need to protect her.
CosmicWhaleShark: Which in turn may have him fighting individuals that have additional conflicting ties.
Birdwhisperer: Maybe Kat.
CosmicWhaleShark: Antimony would of course side with Renard, because she knows he was actually protecting her.
CosmicWhaleShark: And it would force them into exile.
Birdwhisperer: Oh oh btw
Birdwhisperer: Renard technically belongs to Kat now
CosmicWhaleShark: Oh shit
Birdwhisperer: They transferred ownership so they wouldn't have to give him to her dad
CosmicWhaleShark: Oh my gosh is shit about to go down.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Mar 23, 2016 0:56:46 GMT
Make sure you tell CosmicWhaleShark that, while under her ownership, Kat told Renard he could do whatever he needed to protect himself from Anthony. And Kat's offer to transfer ownership back to Annie was deferred, giving this plot element more time to go off. |
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 23, 2016 5:26:12 GMT
I've got a friend who I've been keeping updated with GK, though he doesn't follow it himself. Lately he's been saying he thinks Renard is going to become a villain, so I had him read the chapter with Hetty. Afterward, he said this and I think it's pretty neat speculation.
CosmicWhaleShark: I think the author of gunnerkrig is going to be more subtle than just making Renard a straight villain.
CosmicWhaleShark: But I definitely think he's going to become a illusioned antagonist and his actions will be justified by his adoration for whatsherface
CosmicWhaleShark: Antimony.
Birdwhisperer: Hmm, maybe.
CosmicWhaleShark: I see it coming.
CosmicWhaleShark: Something is about to go down.
CosmicWhaleShark: This filler is always indicative of some heavy shit about to go down.
CosmicWhaleShark: I've seen enough anime.
Birdwhisperer: This is more like the filler after the heavy stuff
CosmicWhaleShark: So you think.
Birdwhisperer: Before this, her dad came back and completely flipped around her life.
CosmicWhaleShark: That's foreshadowing.
Birdwhisperer: And her fire part was separated from her
CosmicWhaleShark: They're introducing new elements to the story.
Birdwhisperer: I guess it puts her in a position to be at a disadvantage to any new threat
CosmicWhaleShark: Indeedly.
CosmicWhaleShark: Which puts Renard in a position to need to protect her.
CosmicWhaleShark: Which in turn may have him fighting individuals that have additional conflicting ties.
Birdwhisperer: Maybe Kat.
CosmicWhaleShark: Antimony would of course side with Renard, because she knows he was actually protecting her.
CosmicWhaleShark: And it would force them into exile.
Birdwhisperer: Oh oh btw
Birdwhisperer: Renard technically belongs to Kat now
CosmicWhaleShark: Oh shit
Birdwhisperer: They transferred ownership so they wouldn't have to give him to her dad
CosmicWhaleShark: Oh my gosh is shit about to go down.
I definitely don't think that Renard is going to become an antagonist, persay. I also have extreme doubt that any situation would cause him to side against Kat in the forseeable future (not least because he is physically incapable of directly harming the person who owns his body). However, I do think there is a reasonable chance that Renard will fight Anthony, and perhaps kill him. (I wrote a longer post about this a while ago; I can see if I can find it.) More specifically, I think the situation will come up where Renard is in a position to kill Tony to protect Annie, and he will have the moral struggle that has been hinted at forever – for example, WoT says that "Renard would kill again in defense of a friend"; Kat has given him a dangerously vague command to protect Annie. My personal belief is that Rey will have the opportunity and motive to kill Tony, but will restrain himself this time for Annie's sake, contrasting with how he tried to kill Annie, and thereby achieve catharsis (because I think he has carried his guilt for long enough). But I recognize that it could definitely go either way. I didn't come up with this myself but there's a pretty cool theory that Kat is the computer that's talked about in these pages, thus explaining why she can read the robot language, why she's so good at technology and why she looks like a machine in Zimmingham. Note how it's mentioned that it was created by Kat's mom and dad working together. It's a nice symbol and one of the many parallels I like. I'm not sure, whether you want to call Kat a computer. But I think she does represent a similar approach. The connection of man's knowledge of mathematics and theory (Donald) with a little bit of etheric abilities (Anja). This way, Kat is able to interpret and use source code in a way others can interpret languages but is also able to add what we would call 'magic' to her work to create life. It's a lovely, lovely antithesis to the way, the court produces life for the former ferries and to coyote's theory of how he and his cousin's were created. It isn't the ether alone who produces life, but it isn't just biology and absolutely not just technology. Oh, and what a great way to add biology itself to the duality of the ether and technology through Kat's relationship with Paz. For me, Tom is hinting towards a way better way than just the duality of technology and the ether. It seems as if he is hinting, that all is well and nice, but you can't expect any sensible outcome without an empathy towards the life you are about to create and for which you need to take care of after its creation.You might be onto something here. Think of the other example of creation that we've seen: Coyote making the Glass-Eyed Men. He didn't care for them enough (he is absent-minded, after all) and they lost all semblance of humanity, and became dangerous beings - with one notable exception, of course. |
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Post by tiberius on Mar 23, 2016 7:17:57 GMT
I definitely don't think that Renard is going to become an antagonist, persay. I also have extreme doubt that any situation would cause him to side against Kat in the forseeable future (not least because he is physically incapable of directly harming the person who owns his body). However, I do think there is a reasonable chance that Renard will fight Anthony, and perhaps kill him. (I wrote a longer post about this a while ago; I can see if I can find it.) More specifically, I think the situation will come up where Renard is in a position to kill Tony to protect Annie, and he will have the moral struggle that has been hinted at forever – for example, WoT says that "Renard would kill again in defense of a friend"; Kat has given him a dangerously vague command to protect Annie. My personal belief is that Rey will have the opportunity and motive to kill Tony, but will restrain himself this time for Annie's sake, contrasting with how he tried to kill Annie, and thereby achieve catharsis (because I think he has carried his guilt for long enough). But I recognize that it could definitely go either way. I am wondering, who has been a real antagonist so far? Well, Hetty for sure, but her impact correlated to her size. Everybody else I would consider bad is a historic figure and has been shown in Jeanne's history only, most of them in shadows if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure about Renard fighting Anthony. But oh well, I am not sure, why Kat is not allowed to pass the ownership back to Annie at this point, neither. Is he more capable to train her to reconnect herself when she is not owning him? (ok, this has been explained this morning) Also, what happens to Kat's command to defend himself once her ownership is over? From my point of view, her command becomes void. Here's my speculation regarding it: Before Ownership is passed back to Annie, Tony will see Annie and Renard interact with each other, giving him a hint that the Demon Renard - the godlike creature who passionately and dearly loved his wife by the way - is not as demonly as he might think. Knowing what we know of Tony so far, he might decide that an observational approach might be better to analyse Renard than a heads-on-approach. Oh, I hope he never learns, that his daughter effectively disobeyed him. On the fighting front, I rather see a terrifying Gardener of the forest being the one doing the nearly-killing-thing. He has promised Annie to kill him should she have the wish. And he is not the calmest character we have seen so far. without an empathy towards the life you are about to create and for which you need to take care of after its creation. You might be onto something here. Think of the other example of creation that we've seen: Coyote making the Glass-Eyed Men. He didn't care for them enough (he is absent-minded, after all) and they lost all semblance of humanity, and became dangerous beings - with one notable exception, of course. Oh, you are right! Coyote and his try to create something. To add to my little theory there, I would even go so far to state he wouldn't have been able to create anything that resembles humanity. He can 'only' manipulate the ether. So, he would need some human factor in there for it not to go wrong. This is why Shadow first became friends with Antimony, since she is the perfect medium between the ether and humankind. This is also supporting the way Shadow becoming more and more solid and human because of his friendship with Antimony, Kat (the medium between humankind and technology/the robots) and Robot himself (or is it itself?) . Shadow needed each and every one of them to move up on this kind of ladder of evolution. Funny though, that is transition from two-dimensional to three-dimensional only could happen because of coyote's etherical tool. I wonder what Jones would say to this :-D Oh, this reminds me of one of the earliest questions I had regarding GKC: How did Shadow get to the Court in the first place? Did we speculate about this topic anytime anywhere? |
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Post by aline on Mar 23, 2016 7:43:18 GMT
Kat has given him a dangerously vague command to protect Annie. In fact her exact words were "If he tries to hurt you then you have my permission to do whatever it takes to defend yourself." It only covers self-defense, because Kat believed Rey to be the one physically at risk at the moment. I think this was meant to show us that Kat could no longer fully trust Annie, that she had to lie to her in order to give Rey as much protection as she wished to. I don't believe it warrants all the wild speculation that has been running on the forum about Rey hurting / killing Anthony because we now know that Anthony has in fact 0 interest in attacking or dissecting Renard. But time will show us, I guess. |
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 23, 2016 7:48:22 GMT
Kat has given him a dangerously vague command to protect Annie. In fact her exact words were "If he tries to hurt you then you have my permission to do whatever it takes to defend yourself." It only covers self-defense, because Kat believed Rey to be the one physically at risk at the moment. I think this was meant to show us that Kat could no longer fully trust Annie, that she had to lie to her in order to give Rey as much protection as she wished to. I don't believe it warrants all the wild speculation that has been running on the forum about Rey hurting / killing Anthony because we now know that Anthony has in fact 0 interest in attacking or dissecting Renard. But time will show us, I guess. I will admit I've been responsible for a good amount of this "wild speculation" around Renard/Tony troubles, but hey, this is the right thread for it! Oh, this reminds me of one of the earliest questions I had regarding GKC: How did Shadow get to the Court in the first place? Did we speculate about this topic anytime anywhere? The consensus is that he is the child of these Shadows, or other Shadows who had escaped into hiding in the Court. I'm not sure if this is actually canon, however, so I'd appreciate if someone would double-check me. |
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Post by tiberius on Mar 23, 2016 8:36:00 GMT
Oh, this reminds me of one of the earliest questions I had regarding GKC: How did Shadow get to the Court in the first place? Did we speculate about this topic anytime anywhere? The consensus is that he is the child of these Shadows, or other Shadows who had escaped into hiding in the Court. I'm not sure if this is actually canon, however, so I'd appreciate if someone would double-check me. I'm with you on the origin. Didn't he say after his return that his people bullied him and wouldn't let him in their community? He became to 'human', I guess. But this would mean, Shadow came before the divide. After it he and any of his people couldn't make it because of the lamps on the bridge and jeanne by the waters themselves. I wonder, why Annie and the gang don't go to him with their questions. My guess is, he or any of the escaped shadow people were around during that time. This would also explain why the court is so nervous since they realized a shadow man is living among them. I think they defy coyote's creations. This would also be a good explanation, why the bridge had to be made on the court's terms. With lights and height and everything. edit: Oh, hold on. Of course, they could have ridden on the forest dogs, too, right! OK, maybe Shadow might not be the best story teller in GKC after Jones. |
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Post by OGRuddawg on Mar 23, 2016 14:02:19 GMT
The consensus is that he is the child of these Shadows, or other Shadows who had escaped into hiding in the Court. I'm not sure if this is actually canon, however, so I'd appreciate if someone would double-check me. I'm with you on the origin. Didn't he say after his return that his people bullied him and wouldn't let him in their community? He became to 'human', I guess. But this would mean, Shadow came before the divide. After it he and any of his people couldn't make it because of the lamps on the bridge and jeanne by the waters themselves. I wonder, why Annie and the gang don't go to him with their questions. My guess is, he or any of the escaped shadow people were around during that time. This would also explain why the court is so nervous since they realized a shadow man is living among them. I think they defy coyote's creations. This would also be a good explanation, why the bridge had to be made on the court's terms. With lights and height and everything. edit: Oh, hold on. Of course, they could have ridden on the forest dogs, too, right! OK, maybe Shadow might not be the best story teller in GKC after Jones. In Broken Glass and Other Things, Red tells Annie that Shadow was just a kid, since he could only make chirps and stuff to communicate. It seems shadow men age similarly to humans (Jones mentions early in Red Gets a Name that Shadow seems to be a little younger than Annie). If he is only in his teens, he has to be a child of the shadows on the bush dog. He could not have possibly been around before the divide. |
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Post by aline on Mar 23, 2016 14:39:49 GMT
I've got a friend who I've been keeping updated with GK, though he doesn't follow it himself. Lately he's been saying he thinks Renard is going to become a villain, so I had him read the chapter with Hetty. Afterward, he said this and I think it's pretty neat speculation.
CosmicWhaleShark: I think the author of gunnerkrig is going to be more subtle than just making Renard a straight villain.
CosmicWhaleShark: But I definitely think he's going to become a illusioned antagonist and his actions will be justified by his adoration for whatsherface
CosmicWhaleShark: Antimony.
Birdwhisperer: Hmm, maybe.
CosmicWhaleShark: I see it coming.
CosmicWhaleShark: Something is about to go down.
CosmicWhaleShark: This filler is always indicative of some heavy shit about to go down.
CosmicWhaleShark: I've seen enough anime.
Birdwhisperer: This is more like the filler after the heavy stuff
CosmicWhaleShark: So you think.
Birdwhisperer: Before this, her dad came back and completely flipped around her life.
CosmicWhaleShark: That's foreshadowing.
Birdwhisperer: And her fire part was separated from her
CosmicWhaleShark: They're introducing new elements to the story.
Birdwhisperer: I guess it puts her in a position to be at a disadvantage to any new threat
CosmicWhaleShark: Indeedly.
CosmicWhaleShark: Which puts Renard in a position to need to protect her.
CosmicWhaleShark: Which in turn may have him fighting individuals that have additional conflicting ties.
Birdwhisperer: Maybe Kat.
CosmicWhaleShark: Antimony would of course side with Renard, because she knows he was actually protecting her.
CosmicWhaleShark: And it would force them into exile.
Birdwhisperer: Oh oh btw
Birdwhisperer: Renard technically belongs to Kat now
CosmicWhaleShark: Oh shit
Birdwhisperer: They transferred ownership so they wouldn't have to give him to her dad
CosmicWhaleShark: Oh my gosh is shit about to go down.
Your friend is correct that filler isn't "for nothing" and normally has a purpose, but I think he's got the direction it points to the wrong way. That's just my gut feeling obviously. I think "Quicksilver" doesn't foreshadow Renard becoming a bad guy. It foreshadows him becoming a good guy. It gives us insight into his motivations and the way he questions his own reasons for hurting people in the past. Hetty is just there as a comparison, an equivalent "bad puppet demon", a representation of what Renard could be but choses not to be. He kills her to prevent her from committing the same crime he nearly committed when he attempted to possess Annie. From a symbolic point of view, he is killing his past self. I'm quite sure Rey could kill again if it really came to life and death threat to his friends (although frankly that's called "self-defence", not "evil"). But I don't think it's going to happen. |
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Post by tiberius on Mar 23, 2016 16:21:42 GMT
I'm with you on the origin. Didn't he say after his return that his people bullied him and wouldn't let him in their community? He became to 'human', I guess. But this would mean, Shadow came before the divide. After it he and any of his people couldn't make it because of the lamps on the bridge and jeanne by the waters themselves. I wonder, why Annie and the gang don't go to him with their questions. My guess is, he or any of the escaped shadow people were around during that time. This would also explain why the court is so nervous since they realized a shadow man is living among them. I think they defy coyote's creations. This would also be a good explanation, why the bridge had to be made on the court's terms. With lights and height and everything. edit: Oh, hold on. Of course, they could have ridden on the forest dogs, too, right! OK, maybe Shadow might not be the best story teller in GKC after Jones. In Broken Glass and Other Things, Red tells Annie that Shadow was just a kid, since he could only make chirps and stuff to communicate. It seems shadow men age similarly to humans (Jones mentions early in Red Gets a Name that Shadow seems to be a little younger than Annie). If he is only in his teens, he has to be a child of the shadows on the bush dog. He could not have possibly been around before the divide. Thank you for the clarification! This would explain, why the forest wasn't very friendly towards him. He wasn't one of them anymore being a shadow born in the court. An interesting way to throw in, what I have heard some people whose parents were immigrants have to face when they want to move back to the country of their parents. But doesn't that raise other questions, then? If Shadow was born in the court, how come the court didn't know he existed until just recently? What happened to his family? (How do parent shadows create shadow kids actually?) And did he want to get back to the forest only because he didn't have any friends yet? |
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Post by OGRuddawg on Mar 24, 2016 17:03:10 GMT
In Broken Glass and Other Things, Red tells Annie that Shadow was just a kid, since he could only make chirps and stuff to communicate. It seems shadow men age similarly to humans (Jones mentions early in Red Gets a Name that Shadow seems to be a little younger than Annie). If he is only in his teens, he has to be a child of the shadows on the bush dog. He could not have possibly been around before the divide. Thank you for the clarification! This would explain, why the forest wasn't very friendly towards him. He wasn't one of them anymore being a shadow born in the court. An interesting way to throw in, what I have heard some people whose parents were immigrants have to face when they want to move back to the country of their parents. But doesn't that raise other questions, then? If Shadow was born in the court, how come the court didn't know he existed until just recently? What happened to his family? (How do parent shadows create shadow kids actually?) And did he want to get back to the forest only because he didn't have any friends yet? We don't know how shadow men escaped detection, what happened to his family, or how shadow creatures reproduce yet. I would assume that Shadow heard about the forest from either another shadow creature in the Court, his etheric connection told him the forest was his home, or he was eavesdropping and heard about shadow creatures in the forest. We don't know for sure the answer to those questions, though. I bet we will get some more back story at some point. |
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Post by keef on Jun 22, 2016 23:53:12 GMT
Hm. Those two pages juxtaposed have some interesting possible implications. Eglamore has a special relationship with Jones, and did even when he was young -- "I wish Jones could have been in the photo". But Surma can't stand her. Maybe Surma chose Anthony over Eglamore specifically because being around Eglamore meant being around Jones. Who knows? Maybe Jones even deliberately drove Surma away. So far what we've seen in the comic indicates that Surma dumped Jimmy Jims because he was absent too much for his training. There is also the point that Tony promised he could cure her. If she was aware of her condition at the time and if he was already a promising young medical student, they may have discussed the matter. And why not, they all knew (but we don't know when). Or she may just have fallen in love with the guy. It happens. |
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Post by Storel on Jun 23, 2016 5:38:50 GMT
Or she may just have fallen in love with the guy. It happens. Tony seems especially difficult for anyone to love, though, so that seems... unlikely. Barring some extraordinary circumstances that we don't know about yet, of course. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 24, 2016 17:15:10 GMT
My newest head-canon: Tony Carver is an alternate-reality version of Dr. Stephen Strange, where he met an evil magical entity rather than the Ancient One. I mean, think about it. Cold, distant master surgeon with severe hand-related injuries, learning magic after their single-minded focus on science failed them? For reference: |
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Post by bedinsis on Jul 24, 2016 21:16:19 GMT
My theory of how human belief causes things to exist is: it works like a giant retcon* button. Before the entities of the ether have gathered enough belief to exist they do not exist, have never existed, and probably will never exist. After they have, and their backstory requires them to have existed prior to their creation, the world and its inhabitants have itself altered in order to facilitate this backstory, be it through tracks they logically should have left behind or the memories of them the already existing entities should have had.
If I were an being of the ether, then by this explanation it would be possible for me to have been created 20 minutes ago; all posts made earlier retconned into existence 20 minutes ago; any memory you might have had of reading my posts prior to 20 minutes ago retconned into your brain(and my memories of writing them retconned into my brain, along with my body retconned into existence).
Since Gunnerkrigg is set in the past from the perspective of Annie I think it is possible that some characters might not actually have been present when Annie experienced them, they having only come into existence retroactively.
The interesting question would then be what the truth is and what is only believed into existence. If Coyote put the stars into the heaven and Jones brain got retconned with memories of them having always been in the sky, once the scientists gathered enough faith for the Big Bang to have been true. Or vice versa.
*retcon stands for retroactive continuity. It's used for instance when comic book writers changes the backstory, like how Spiderman has been a teenager for several decades.
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Post by arf on Jul 25, 2016 5:28:19 GMT
My newest head-canon: Tony Carver is an alternate-reality version of Dr. Stephen Strange, where he met an evil magical entity rather than the Ancient One. I mean, think about it. Cold, distant master surgeon with severe hand-related injuries, learning magic after their single-minded focus on science failed them? For reference: Snap! Cumberbatch would be a natural for the role (if the movie rights ever come up!*) * Which I would be in two minds about... Tom's artwork being part of the mix. |
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But that's probably my limited understanding of physics.
