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Post by The Anarch on Feb 10, 2015 1:41:26 GMT
Would it would work on Jones? Could Coyote kill her that way? (somewhere, The Anarch is crying) Nah, I'm not crying. Merely plotting revenge.
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Post by brilliantgrey on Feb 16, 2015 23:00:59 GMT
Theory: Zimmy is in some way a 'dark' version of Annie. They have a very similar silhouette, and share similar abilities and senses. Annie is very emotionally disconnected from the world around her, much like Zimmy, and only begins to connect after meeting Kat, who serves a similar purpose for Annie (the morality chain) as Gamma does for Zimmy.
Zimmy's abilities were probably the same/more similar to Annie's but something early in her life caused them to become warped. (possibly the Court tampering with the Ether)
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Post by TBeholder on Feb 17, 2015 10:41:57 GMT
Theory: Zimmy is in some way a 'dark' version of Annie. They have a very similar silhouette, and share similar abilities and senses. Haha... what?
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Post by keef on Feb 26, 2015 23:53:41 GMT
Reading back on the chapter, the Stone, I have to wonder. if we take what Coyote said about the human mind can give shape to powerful beings via the ether to be true, what could possibly give rise to Jones? What thought / belief brought about her existence? Spoiler tag in consideration for possible new readers. I don't know where to put this. Wild spec. No spoilers needed here. People believe in science. Belief shapes the Ether. Jones: science or the laws of physics
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Post by November on Mar 4, 2015 3:51:53 GMT
Zimmy's abilities were probably the same/more similar to Annie's but something early in her life caused them to become warped. (possibly the Court tampering with the Ether) I like this and I feel you could easily expand on this. For their first school assignment, we see Annie say " I was thinking of covering the Minotaur". By mere chance, they happen to stumble upon a library where an actual Minotaur has a time share appartment. What are the odds? Reality warping powers at play, perhaps? But this is wild-spec. We're not digging deep enough. What happens when Paz talks to animals? When the dryad travels through her trees? When Smitty sorts cards and finds marbles? Nobody knows how it works. It just works, because it's etheric. Because they will it so. Etheric ability trumps reality. In fact, all etheric abilities seep to be warping reality one way or another. The court picks up kids from around the country, and sometimes even from other places as well (Gamma is from Poland, Paz is from Spain). The court then collects ether from nature and uses it to test the extent of the students etheric connection , aka. their ability to warp reality. Like, when John and Margo are looking for an instrument, they just happen to find a cursed sitar.. Mankind's endeavour to understand reality warping. Mankind's endeavour to become god. Zimmy is a fringe case. She is what happens if you are too much in tune with the Ether. Because of her extreme etheric connection, she never learned to filter between reality and fantasy. She was the Courts most successful attempt at utilising ether so far, but she went mad with the power. And Annie is also a lot more in tune with the Ether than most of the other students. She is heading down the same road Zimmy already did. The reason why Zimmy helped Annie in the hospital is that she sees herself in her. And because she sees herself in her, and she has insane reality warping powers, the line between the two gets blurred in Spring Heeled.
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Post by Chancellor on Mar 4, 2015 6:44:25 GMT
Are you intimating the notion that the Court is a place intentionally saturated with Ether to levels far beyond natural in order to test the limits of Etheric powers?
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Post by November on Mar 5, 2015 2:57:54 GMT
Are you intimating the notion that the Court is a place intentionally saturated with Ether to levels far beyond natural in order to test the limits of Etheric powers? Sure. I was actually thinking they added Ether in the courts' drinking water without the students knowing it. The robots purified etheric energy from the storm and used it to increase the power of Zimmys abilities. We also know that natural rain water is an immense release for Zimmy. So, if the water in the court is usually dosed with Ether, it would gradually make Zimmys visions more severe. We've been told there are no rats in the Court, and robot cows is practically spelled "no real animals allowed" out for us. The reason why there are virtually no animals is to make sure all the naturally occurring etheric energy goes to the human population in the area. The court is breeding people for increased etheric abilities.
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 5, 2015 4:04:19 GMT
Are you intimating the notion that the Court is a place intentionally saturated with Ether to levels far beyond natural in order to test the limits of Etheric powers? Sure. I was actually thinking they added Ether in the courts' drinking water without the students knowing it. The robots purified etheric energy from the storm and used it to increase the power of Zimmys abilities. We also know that natural rain water is an immense release for Zimmy. So, if the water in the court is usually dosed with Ether, it would gradually make Zimmys visions more severe. We've been told there are no rats in the Court, and robot cows is practically spelled "no real animals allowed" out for us. The reason why there are virtually no animals is to make sure all the naturally occurring etheric energy goes to the human population in the area. The court is breeding people for increased etheric abilities. The case with Zimmy is more or less the reverse of what you have presented here, according to Jones. The natural rainwater has ether, but the water the Court provides does not (probably because they sucked it out for experiments, as we see in chapter 19). So what stabilizes Zimmy's abilities is an increase in ether, not a decrease. If the Court was spiking it into their students drinks, Zimmy should get more stable, not less. That being said, we still don't know what they do with all of the ether they've collected. Furthermore, the robots' machines seemed not to make Zimmy's abilities any more powerful, just more permanent and more able to affect the real world. And we know that the Forest is full of the ether (after all, Coyote swims in it). It's also the place that the Court could least affect with any plots about changing ether levels. (Post number 2000, woot!)
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Post by Lightice on Mar 5, 2015 10:41:20 GMT
]The case with Zimmy is more or less the reverse of what you have presented here, according to Jones. The natural rainwater has ether, but the water the Court provides does not (probably because they sucked it out for experiments, as we see in chapter 19). So what stabilizes Zimmy's abilities is an increase in ether, not a decrease. If the Court was spiking it into their students drinks, Zimmy should get more stable, not less. I don't think that the ether that is in the rainwater gets imbued into Zimmy. Rather, it flows over her and catches that supernatural gunk that relates to her condition, like normal water catches dirt. Like you can't clean up a person by making them drink lots of water, I don't think that increasing Zimmy's natural ether levels would help her in any way.
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Post by GK Sierra on Mar 14, 2015 8:16:10 GMT
On Monday Tony is going to turn around and reveal a horribly disfigured face as he had to operate on himself while traveling in the wilderness. The scalpels delivered by Microsat 5 were to save his own life.
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Post by nightwind on Mar 15, 2015 22:01:57 GMT
Or he's a Nobody!
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Post by Lightice on Mar 16, 2015 9:53:05 GMT
On Monday Tony is going to turn around and reveal a horribly disfigured face as he had to operate on himself while traveling in the wilderness. The scalpels delivered by Microsat 5 were to save his own life. Well, not horribly disfigured, but he does have a distinctive scar. Courtesy of Zimmy, perhaps?
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 17, 2015 1:16:43 GMT
Moving this phenomenal theory to where it belongs, and where it might get more attention: As someone pointed out last page, in a flashback we see that Anthony used to be right-handed. And when Annie was in the infirmary, there were five bone pillars coming down from the sky. Now, realise that we were never shown Anthonys right hand in that scene. This time, it's not just convenient, it's deliberate. Anthony is not just writing with his left hand, he's also keeping his right hand in his pocket. Tom is not showing us Anthony's right hand. Why? Because either a) his fingers on his right hand are just bones, or b) they were burnt to a crisp from trying to grab the fire elemental part of Annie.
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Post by November on Mar 17, 2015 2:31:49 GMT
What a stupid theory.
It's obvious that Tom not showing us Anthony's hand is merely a metaphor - "You have no idea what Anthony's up to, and I'm not telling either."
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Mar 17, 2015 3:00:18 GMT
It has to be a great theory, because it smells like bacon! Or ribs, with lip smacking awesome sauce.
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Post by Nepycros on Mar 18, 2015 5:49:31 GMT
Or he could be ambidextrous. Sinister fiend
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 23, 2015 7:14:59 GMT
Noooooooooooo. Just. Nooooooooooooooooo! And then everyone reading bursts into flames. If he did that, Tom's computer would melt into a puddle of silicon and plastic, with the amount of hatemail he'd receive. He'd then unveil the machine he'd designed to harness the heat of that flaming hatred as an energy source and become a global electricity mogul. Just as planned. IT ALL FITS
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Post by sapientcoffee on Mar 23, 2015 7:23:49 GMT
THEY ALL SAID I WAS MAD. MAD, AM I? I'LL SHOW THEM, I'LL SHOW THEM ALL! *manic laughter*
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Post by Chancellor on Mar 23, 2015 7:25:28 GMT
You thought we'd all be so distracted hating anthony that we wouldn't connect the dots of your nefarious scheme, Tom, but we'z too sharp.
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 23, 2015 7:32:21 GMT
THEY ALL SAID I WAS MAD. MAD, AM I? I'LL SHOW THEM, I'LL SHOW THEM ALL!*manic laughter* And now we know why he did that card game crossover...
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Post by cu on Mar 25, 2015 9:47:08 GMT
The court is breeding people for increased etheric abilities. Didn't someone already 'shopped the second panel here so it said "It is man's endeavour to become the Kwisatz Haderach"?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 30, 2015 3:32:51 GMT
Here is an interesting thought I had: Suppose that Anthony Carver was not doing some sort of experiment on his daughter or on "the fire?" Perhaps the message through her in the Microsat 5 chapter wasn't about targeting her but simply caused Antimony's fire to die down for psychological reasons, and the bonelasers/skeletal-hand deal is a symbolic representation of the connection between father and daughter because they love each other?* There is an excellent precedent for this in the arrow that Diego made that targeted Jeanne through skewering Kermit. Zeta indeed acted to stop him but what he was doing was absentee parenting.
The medical supplies suggest he was doing medical doctory-type things where supplies weren't easy to come by. If that is the case then Anthony was minding his own business, possibly basking in the approbation of being a quiet widowed doctor with a mysterious past and a daughter who doesn't speak to him** in a remote area grateful for any medical services, when FIST TO THE FACE and HAND SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST. If anyone was watching at the time then those things by themselves would probably end his career there, but if there was also a disembodied voice saying that the aforementioned injuries were courtesy of his little girl then he would have some difficult questions to answer. In any event, Anthony's return to the Court may have been sparked (heh) by that instead of the Court recalling him to control his daughter... because he discovered a new and powerful interest in doing so on his own. Thus endeth the era of the absentee parenting; now begins the days of the iron-fisted affection-withholding tiger-parenting.
*Does not exclude the possibility he also hates her for reminding him of Surma. **Because she doesn't know where he's hiding.
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Post by speedwell on Mar 30, 2015 10:52:46 GMT
Here is an interesting thought I had: Suppose that Anthony Carver was not doing some sort of experiment on his daughter or on "the fire?" Perhaps the message through her in the Microsat 5 chapter wasn't about targeting her but simply caused Antimony's fire to die down for psychological reasons, and the bonelasers/skeletal-hand deal is a symbolic representation of the connection between father and daughter because they love each other?* There is an excellent precedent for this in the arrow that Diego made that targeted Jeanne through skewering Kermit. Zeta indeed acted to stop him but what he was doing was absentee parenting. The medical supplies suggest he was doing medical doctory-type things where supplies weren't easy to come by. If that is the case then Anthony was minding his own business, possibly basking in the approbation of being a quiet widowed doctor with a mysterious past and a daughter who doesn't speak to him** in a remote area grateful for any medical services, when FIST TO THE FACE and HAND SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST. If anyone was watching at the time then those things by themselves would probably end his career there, but if there was also a disembodied voice saying that the aforementioned injuries were courtesy of his little girl then he would have some difficult questions to answer. In any event, Anthony's return to the Court may have been sparked (heh) by that instead of the Court recalling him to control his daughter... because he discovered a new and powerful interest in doing so on his own. Thus endeth the era of the absentee parenting; now begins the days of the iron-fisted affection-withholding tiger-parenting. And I thought I was crazy, all those panels ago, for thinking that Annie collapsed because she tried to reach out to her father in the ether, connected, and suffered some sort of etheric backlash.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 30, 2015 11:02:39 GMT
And I thought I was crazy, all those panels ago, for thinking that Annie collapsed because she tried to reach out to her father in the ether, connected, and suffered some sort of etheric backlash. Thanks to inherent nature, schooling, and decades of internet I am crazier than all of you stacked on top of each other with a chimpanzee on top, and a cherry on top of the chimp.
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Post by Chancellor on Mar 31, 2015 13:43:15 GMT
Jones has been exerting force on backsides and appropriating names for pretty much forever.
I think that over the course of the comic, probably with Annie's help, she's going to choose a permanent name from her own abstract feelings.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Mar 31, 2015 15:07:44 GMT
Jones has been exerting force on backsides and appropriating names for pretty much forever. I think that over the course of the comic, probably with Annie's help, she's going to choose a permanent name from her own abstract feelings. I could see her first attempt at coming up with her own name being too plain and a little too literal. Something like Yesima Stone.
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Post by warrl on Mar 31, 2015 18:23:57 GMT
Immortal beings who don't want to be blatant in their immortality don't take permanent names. Except among other, similar immortals. Jones hasn't mentioned ever meeting any.
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Post by wombat on Apr 1, 2015 5:17:09 GMT
My wild spec is that everything since the start of this chapter has been leading up to the next update (the one in a couple hours) just going, "April Fools!"
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Post by sapientcoffee on Apr 1, 2015 5:39:28 GMT
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Post by speedwell on Apr 2, 2015 8:11:06 GMT
Has anyone speculated yet that Mr. Donlan inserted a note into the supplies shipment that said something to the effect of, "Anthony, you irresponsible waster, if you don't get your worthless arse in gear and take care of your daughter, you are going to wake up one day and find yourself without her too"?
As a good father himself, he would certainly think that Anthony picking the reins of fatherhood back up would be a good thing and result in happiness. He can't be blamed for not remembering that cold, withholding, blaming bastards who can't understand their own emotions make less than optimal fathers.
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