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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 10, 2024 7:28:57 GMT
So back when they were in their pre-Kat bodies the robots had mythic-level complexity in their code yet didn't interest the 'pomps. They were complex enough to make mistakes, have delusions, and experience romantic attraction, yet they presumably didn't produce ether nor intake/exude or circulate it any more than an electrical appliance. Why not?
I think the key point was that while their minds were complex enough their bodies weren't. There were sensors, sure, but even if some robot somewhere had an analog pain receptor it wasn't enough. Now the robots have complex bodies and minds, a budding religion with a goddess and a candidate for 'pomp, and additionally they're part of a long-running story the ether is interested in. One Noob even died and went into the ether.
We're sorta leaning on a reality distortion to get some of those things, though. Is it possible that complexity of body and mind isn't enough, and a naturally-evolved nervous system is required to be a true being in the GCU? I think an argument can be made for "yes" by looking at things through a literary critic perspective and seeing the distortion as a cheat needed to get the Noobs across the finish line and move the plot forward.
That's not necessarily the case, though. It could just be a kick in the ass to bring the story to a climax.
[edit] I should add that I think the distortion is necessary to plug the Noobs into THIS ether. If they were alone on their own world and Kat gave them the ability to reproduce they'd probably be enough to make their own etheric realm(s) eventually, but they're not. They're on a world full of humans with a deep and ancient biosphere. Their ether would be competing with a vast and entrenched ether, and it'd get quashed. [/edit]
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Post by novia on Jun 12, 2024 18:27:27 GMT
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Post by blahzor on Jun 12, 2024 22:52:38 GMT
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Post by blahzor on Jun 18, 2024 12:36:41 GMT
To add on to my and everyone's wild spec that a Kat has rigged this universe so that Annie lives.
What if that extra dimensional Kat (due to shinnanigans could be the Kat we've been following) is responsible for Tony's mind cage. And all of this is possible due to one her godhood and using Omega who is a organic machine hybrid who can know every atom from the beginning of existence until the point Kat needs aka Annie's fall from the bridge
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 20, 2024 21:24:11 GMT
Remember how Surma and Anja got put into Chester by mistake? That was a long time before Antimony fell from the bridge. Back then the Court didn't make mistakes thanks to Omega, so just Anja being good at tech and dragging Surma with her to Queslett doesn't explain this. Omega would've known who Antimony's mother would be, and Anja needed to both be good friends with both Surma and Brinnie in order for the story to come to the good ending wherein the 'Tocs save Antimony. I think this is evidence for Omega's semi-omniscience not only sunsetting when her time runs out but being open to manipulation from the ether... which wants things. |
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Post by silicondream on Jun 21, 2024 0:56:28 GMT
Remember how Surma and Anja got put into Chester by mistake? That was a long time before Antimony fell from the bridge. Back then the Court didn't make mistakes thanks to Omega, so just Anja being good at tech and dragging Surma with her to Queslett doesn't explain this. Omega would've known who Antimony's mother would be, and Anja needed to both be good friends with both Surma and Brinnie in order for the story to come to the good ending wherein the 'Tocs save Antimony. I think this is evidence for Omega's semi-omniscience not only sunsetting when her time runs out but being open to manipulation from the ether... which wants things. I don't think the Court expected Surma's honey trap operation with Renard to fail horribly, either. And it would have dominated the Forest long ago if Omega was able to anticipate Coyote. |
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 21, 2024 6:39:32 GMT
Remember how Surma and Anja got put into Chester by mistake? That was a long time before Antimony fell from the bridge. Back then the Court didn't make mistakes thanks to Omega While it’s tempting to see her manipulations like this that would fit the picture… I doubt they became so helpless without their super-oracle that now they bug her about trivialities like where to put a student or what to cook for dinner. Of course, if they did, they are quite ripe for a big turnabout in Muad’Dib style.  |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 21, 2024 7:21:12 GMT
Remember how Surma and Anja got put into Chester by mistake? That was a long time before Antimony fell from the bridge. Back then the Court didn't make mistakes thanks to Omega While it’s tempting to see her manipulations like this that would fit the picture… I doubt they became so helpless without their super-oracle that now they bug her about trivialities like where to put a student or what to cook for dinner. Of course, if they did, they are quite ripe for a big turnabout in Muad’Dib style. The Court shouldn't need to use Omega as a Sorting Hat; they should be using her to make decisions that lead to particular ends. I think Omega sees causal link chains that both she and the ether want but not alternatives. ...but I may revise my opinion on that, I'm still working my way through all the ins and outs of this. |
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Post by blahzor on Jun 21, 2024 9:25:20 GMT
Remember how Surma and Anja got put into Chester by mistake? That was a long time before Antimony fell from the bridge. Back then the Court didn't make mistakes thanks to Omega While it’s tempting to see her manipulations like this that would fit the picture… I doubt they became so helpless without their super-oracle that now they bug her about trivialities like where to put a student or what to cook for dinner. Of course, if they did, they are quite ripe for a big turnabout in Muad’Dib style. Well she clearly kept secret how important surma and Anja would be because it leads to the inaccuracies So it's possible it's a planned mistake. She also doesn't need calibration test pre-annie so that's also a ruse |
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 21, 2024 15:01:59 GMT
Remember how Surma and Anja got put into Chester by mistake? That was a long time before Antimony fell from the bridge. Back then the Court didn't make mistakes thanks to Omega, so just Anja being good at tech and dragging Surma with her to Queslett doesn't explain this. Omega would've known who Antimony's mother would be, and Anja needed to both be good friends with both Surma and Brinnie in order for the story to come to the good ending wherein the 'Tocs save Antimony. I think this is evidence for Omega's semi-omniscience not only sunsetting when her time runs out but being open to manipulation from the ether... which wants things. I don't think the Court expected Surma's honey trap operation with Renard to fail horribly, either. And it would have dominated the Forest long ago if Omega was able to anticipate Coyote. What do you mean, failed? They wanted Renard with a part of Coyote's power in him, and they got him. |
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Post by silicondream on Jun 22, 2024 5:16:19 GMT
I don't think the Court expected Surma's honey trap operation with Renard to fail horribly, either. And it would have dominated the Forest long ago if Omega was able to anticipate Coyote. What do you mean, failed? They wanted Renard with a part of Coyote's power in him, and they got him. , at least, is that they wanted Renard before Coyote gave him his powers. They considered a powered-up Renard more of a threat than Coyote, because Coyote at least had promised non-interference with the Court but Renard showed a dangerous interest in it. You're right though, they did neutralize him and that's more of a success than a failure. But I wouldn't call it optimal, since he did get some of the powerup they were trying to prevent, and they lost four personnel (two dead, two left the Court) in the process. |
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Post by blahzor on Jun 23, 2024 21:49:41 GMT
What do you mean, failed? They wanted Renard with a part of Coyote's power in him, and they got him. , at least, is that they wanted Renard before Coyote gave him his powers. They considered a powered-up Renard more of a threat than Coyote, because Coyote at least had promised non-interference with the Court but Renard showed a dangerous interest in it. You're right though, they did neutralize him and that's more of a success than a failure. But I wouldn't call it optimal, since he did get some of the powerup they were trying to prevent, and they lost four personnel (two dead, two left the Court) in the process. there's no way that isn't a success when a entity that can have any power it can think of and wanted to give it up and only managed to give Rey one power |
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 24, 2024 15:41:29 GMT
What do you mean, failed? They wanted Renard with a part of Coyote's power in him, and they got him. , at least, is that they wanted Renard before Coyote gave him his powers. They considered a powered-up Renard more of a threat than Coyote, because Coyote at least had promised non-interference with the Court but Renard showed a dangerous interest in it. You're right though, they did neutralize him and that's more of a success than a failure. But I wouldn't call it optimal, since he did get some of the powerup they were trying to prevent, and they lost four personnel (two dead, two left the Court) in the process. Consider also that this was long before Annie existed, so Omega's predictions must have still all been accurate... And whether the Court wanted a part of Coyote's power from the beginning on or changed their plan only later, they must have consulted Omega about this. Of course with all that pesky Ether it's hard to say how much Omega could accurately predict. Perhaps Omega could predict Renard using the bodysnatching power, but not its deathly side effects. Or not being able to tell if a human would die after getting his body taken by Renard and the Court's inner circle taking the risk with a "Well, we cannot be sure it will happen."
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Sept 18, 2024 22:29:56 GMT
I went back and reread Ch. 50 and I think I can advance a new hypothesis about the hollow fairies (aka suicide fairies). First, are all fairies hollow fairies? I don't think that can be the case. If nothing else, there should be more than one species of fairies in the wide world. [edit] I'd forgotten but yep there are two species of fairy mentioned in the comic, the garden fairy and regional fairy. [/edit] Second, of the Foley students who were fairies, were they all hollow fairies? Maybe, but I don't see the necessity for it to be so. A fairy that decides she wants more out of life could probably have taken the test in Gillite (prior to more recent events) and been collected as a totem just like the forest animals did. Third, Coyote says the hollow fairies are born the way they are because the Court wants what it wants, but what does the Court want with them? They segregate them to keep them from getting names and learning about standard working conditions, use them to crunch numbers that could probably be done with computers, and set them to various jobs after they get names... but what's desirable about any of that from the Court's point of view? If they wanted a bigger population they could import humans; they'd have to vet them and pay them but the Court has resources to spare. [edit] Of course they'd want to study any fairies with interesting abilities... but the Court doesn't seem that interested, at least not that we've seen or heard of. They've probably studied them in the past. Maybe they've seen enough of fairy tricks that they've just moved on to other areas of research. [/edit] The Court does want etheric energy, maybe desperately as of late. We know they have been experimenting with etheric extraction for some time. We know that the Court needs to purify etheric energy before it can be safely transmitted/used (as we saw demonstrated when they tried to take Coyote's power). We don't know much about fairy reproduction other than they're all female, at least of this species, and they at least some of the time give birth in crisp (chip) packets, so they may or may not form long-term pair-bonds and they probably don't build nests, their ideas about death seem a little questionable, so they aren't necessarily creatures that as a general rule put a lot of effort into selecting mates and caring for young [edit] The regional fairies have "school" but the class size appears tiny. [/edit]... but they are creatures with a presence in the ether. What if the hollow fairies are actually a waste product of the Court's ether extraction? We had the Court sucking in ether from their side of the Annan gulf (when it existed) and maybe we had some careless fairies reproducing hither and yon in Gillite (or maybe even closer). Maybe the stuff that they remove from the ether in the purification process isn't just random hash and bugs, maybe they also sucked in fairy spirits which caused fairies with bodies but no souls to be born elsewhere. That'd produce an ethical dilemma on what to do with them. Maybe the Court decided they shouldn't just zero them (though they probably zeroed a bunch before they knew what they were doing) and as a compromise/way of upcycling continued to extract ether the same way (or more so) but started giving the trapped spirits bodies along with the usual migrants, adding the condition that they had to willfully destroy their fairy bodies (without doing it themselves) to sever their ties to Gillite and prevent the need to bring them into the Court and end them themselves. There isn't much evidence at all for this hypothesis but it would explain the Court's attitude towards them. |
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 19, 2024 13:51:27 GMT
We don't know much about fairy reproduction other than they're all female, at least of this species, and they at least some of the time give birth in crisp (chip) packets, so they may or may not form long-term pair-bonds and they probably don't build nests, their ideas about death seem a little questionable, so they aren't necessarily creatures that as a general rule put a lot of effort into selecting mates and caring for young. Personally, I always interpreted the text on this page as the regional fairies simply coming into being in these places, without any parents, just... magically. It's not unusual in stories that diminutive supernatural beings just spawn in places no one looks at, like the ones mentioned on the page you linked to. |
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Post by aggadahGothic on Sept 19, 2024 15:37:41 GMT
We don't know much about fairy reproduction other than they're all female, at least of this species, and they at least some of the time give birth in crisp (chip) packets, so they may or may not form long-term pair-bonds and they probably don't build nests, their ideas about death seem a little questionable, so they aren't necessarily creatures that as a general rule put a lot of effort into selecting mates and caring for young. Personally, I always interpreted the text on this page as the regional fairies simply coming into being in these places, without any parents, just... magically. It's not unusual in stories that diminutive supernatural beings just spawn in places no one looks at, like the ones mentioned on the page you linked to. I interpreted it in the same way. Historically, it was considered scientific fact that certain organisms simply appear from nothing in the presence of certain materials; e.g. scallops appear wherever there is sand, rather than being born somehow. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Sept 19, 2024 17:20:53 GMT
We don't know much about fairy reproduction other than they're all female, at least of this species, and they at least some of the time give birth in crisp (chip) packets, so they may or may not form long-term pair-bonds and they probably don't build nests, their ideas about death seem a little questionable, so they aren't necessarily creatures that as a general rule put a lot of effort into selecting mates and caring for young. Personally, I always interpreted the text on this page as the regional fairies simply coming into being in these places, without any parents, just... magically. It's not unusual in stories that diminutive supernatural beings just spawn in places no one looks at, like the ones mentioned on the page you linked to. Maybe, but why then do they all have to be female when they come to the Court? Historically, it was considered scientific fact that certain organisms simply appear from nothing in the presence of certain materials; e.g. scallops appear wherever there is sand, rather than being born somehow. True and I think that bugs can form that way in the Gunnerverse, though the more complex ones probably require something a bit more... like maybe a 'pomp failing to collect a soul and it rotting. |
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 20, 2024 14:40:16 GMT
Personally, I always interpreted the text on this page as the regional fairies simply coming into being in these places, without any parents, just... magically. It's not unusual in stories that diminutive supernatural beings just spawn in places no one looks at, like the ones mentioned on the page you linked to. Maybe, but why then do they all have to be female when they come to the Court? I don't think this does have anything to do with how they come into the world. Anyway. My theory that is not supported by anything in the comic is that the Court (which "demands balance", we don't know why, but for the sake of this theory we will just accept this fact) thought that the animals will have to get used to completely new bodies anyway, so it won't really make any additional a difference for them if those bodies are biologically male or female. While the fairies most likely identify much stronger as humanoid girls. We've also seen that changes in their physical appearance make them quite distraught. So I believe that from the Court's point of view it would be a reasonable choice to let the fairies stay girls so they don't go crazier than necessary after the transition and make the animals into boys to keep the balance - for whatever reason that is needed. |
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Post by mturtle7 on Sept 20, 2024 17:48:16 GMT
Maybe, but why then do they all have to be female when they come to the Court? I don't think this does have anything to do with how they come into the world. Anyway. My theory that is not supported by anything in the comic is that the Court (which "demands balance", we don't know why, but for the sake of this theory we will just accept this fact) thought that the animals will have to get used to completely new bodies anyway, so it won't really make any additional a difference for them if those bodies are biologically male or female. While the fairies most likely identify much stronger as humanoid girls. We've also seen that changes in their physical appearance make them quite distraught. So I believe that from the Court's point of view it would be a reasonable choice to let the fairies stay girls so they don't go crazier than necessary after the transition and make the animals into boys to keep the balance - for whatever reason that is needed. Well...remember, this student exchange program has been going on for a REALLY long time! At least a few generations, if not more. And while the Court might be more "enlightened" then society at large, I think it makes perfect sense that some old white dude heard that, because all fairies are female, most of the Foley students would be female, and was like, "Well, we can't have THAT. Having so many women outnumber the men would completely disrupt the natural order of things!"
Bonus points if the Court originally instituted an "only male animals" rule, assuming that meant only male animals would apply. Meanwhile, the Forest people just assumed that meant all animals would have their new human gender set to male, and it took ages for anyone to realize this disconnect in expectations, at which point nobody really cared anyway, so things just carried on as they always had.
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Post by Runningflame on Sept 21, 2024 3:46:07 GMT
I don't think this does have anything to do with how they come into the world. Anyway. My theory that is not supported by anything in the comic is that the Court (which "demands balance", we don't know why, but for the sake of this theory we will just accept this fact) thought that the animals will have to get used to completely new bodies anyway, so it won't really make any additional a difference for them if those bodies are biologically male or female. While the fairies most likely identify much stronger as humanoid girls. We've also seen that changes in their physical appearance make them quite distraught. So I believe that from the Court's point of view it would be a reasonable choice to let the fairies stay girls so they don't go crazier than necessary after the transition and make the animals into boys to keep the balance - for whatever reason that is needed. Well...remember, this student exchange program has been going on for a REALLY long time! At least a few generations, if not more. And while the Court might be more "enlightened" then society at large, I think it makes perfect sense that some old white dude heard that, because all fairies are female, most of the Foley students would be female, and was like, "Well, we can't have THAT. Having so many women outnumber the men would completely disrupt the natural order of things!"
Bonus points if the Court originally instituted an "only male animals" rule, assuming that meant only male animals would apply. Meanwhile, the Forest people just assumed that meant all animals would have their new human gender set to male, and it took ages for anyone to realize this disconnect in expectations, at which point nobody really cared anyway, so things just carried on as they always had.
Or, a simpler explanation: The other houses have separate girls' and boys' dorms with an approximately equal number of students in each (I think that's what this page implies, anyway). So they figured Foley house should be the same way. |
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Post by Hatredman on Sept 21, 2024 12:53:02 GMT
Or, a simpler explanation: The other houses have separate girls' and boys' dorms with an approximately equal number of students in each (I think that's what this page implies, anyway). So they figured Foley house should be the same way. I'm inclined to agree. Occam's razor. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Sept 23, 2024 7:42:08 GMT
Whoops, meant to reply to this but completely forgot... I don't think this does have anything to do with how they come into the world. Anyway. My theory that is not supported by anything in the comic is that the Court (which "demands balance", we don't know why, but for the sake of this theory we will just accept this fact) thought that the animals will have to get used to completely new bodies anyway, so it won't really make any additional a difference for them if those bodies are biologically male or female. While the fairies most likely identify much stronger as humanoid girls. We've also seen that changes in their physical appearance make them quite distraught. So I believe that from the Court's point of view it would be a reasonable choice to let the fairies stay girls so they don't go crazier than necessary after the transition and make the animals into boys to keep the balance - for whatever reason that is needed. Well...remember, this student exchange program has been going on for a REALLY long time! At least a few generations, if not more. And while the Court might be more "enlightened" then society at large, I think it makes perfect sense that some old white dude heard that, because all fairies are female, most of the Foley students would be female, and was like, "Well, we can't have THAT. Having so many women outnumber the men would completely disrupt the natural order of things!" Bonus points if the Court originally instituted an "only male animals" rule, assuming that meant only male animals would apply. Meanwhile, the Forest people just assumed that meant all animals would have their new human gender set to male, and it took ages for anyone to realize this disconnect in expectations, at which point nobody really cared anyway, so things just carried on as they always had.
Here's the thing, though... If there's a strong stereotype that all fairies are female I think that suggests that a lot of people believe that all fairies are female and in the GCU that can make all fairies female. The animals had biological sexes and, all else held equal, gender notions* based on biological sex. Maybe there was some guy at some point who was in charge of setting policy for Foley who's knowledge of fairies came exclusively from very poor fiction... but other people will have to choose to execute and carry on that policy. I'd think that if the fairies were just non-gendered by nature then they could be made either male or female as required to balance out each class... if that's what they're balancing. We don't know how fairies reproduce and we don't know what they think about gender. Maybe they spontaneously generate in the right conditions, maybe they pair up as couples or small groups or whatever and something somehow happens, or maybe they borrow males from other species. Locality and connection seem to be things that are important to even etheric events, so I tend to think there's something going on involving fairies coming together (with each other or something else) as opposed to pure spontaneous generation. If that's the case, maybe they're somehow hyper-female and making them males (in addition to the new bodies) would give too many of them dysphoria. *There's a big discussion that could be held on this. The animals who are coming to the Court are dissatisfied with something/somethings and their biological sex might well be one of those things... but they don't get a choice, the Court makes them all male. Or, a simpler explanation: The other houses have separate girls' and boys' dorms with an approximately equal number of students in each (I think that's what this page implies, anyway). So they figured Foley house should be the same way. It's been formsprung that dorm accommodation varies from house to house. What was in the comic was only Queslett. |
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Post by Hatredman on Sept 23, 2024 14:40:50 GMT
It's been formsprung that dorm accommodation varies from house to house. What was in the comic was only Queslett. That's *very* disputable. The question is too open and the answer too vague. |
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Post by speedwell on Oct 23, 2024 21:28:29 GMT
So, has anyone got around yet to speculating that Zimmy (Zeta) and Gamma are clones, alternate universe versions, or failed attempts at duplicating Omega herself? And their "closer than just friends" relationship is whichever of those is the case?
By the way, hello friends 🥰
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Post by blahzor on Oct 25, 2024 9:12:58 GMT
one could say Zimmy is a version of Meg that Kat accidently or on purpose drain of most information and Gamma is the monitoring program she created
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Post by pyradonis on Oct 25, 2024 14:33:24 GMT
So, has anyone got around yet to speculating that Zimmy (Zeta) and Gamma are clones, alternate universe versions, or failed attempts at duplicating Omega herself? And their "closer than just friends" relationship is whichever of those is the case? By the way, hello friends 🥰 Welcome back!
Well the speculation does sound familiar. When Omega's original body was shown with all that focus on her red eyes being the only non-black-or-sepia thing in the flashback pages there was a lot of speculation about the relationship between her and Zimmy, from blood relations to failed cloning experiment.
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Post by Gemminie on Nov 13, 2024 21:19:10 GMT
I've been thinking about this for a long time – Kat and Annie are talking about Diego's Arrow, Tom explicitly shows us Robot's head on a lab bench outside the room where they're talking, where he can hear this conversation, and then Annie says, "Well, there's nobody I'd trust more to keep it safe than you, Kat!" This is pretty much a canonical promise that either Kat's going to use it for horrible purposes, or that someone's going to steal it from Kat and use it against Annie. And then there's this – the Interpreter toothily warns Kat that further misuse of the arrow will result in "severe consequences." Those consequences probably involve a permanent state of having one's mind restricted "so you can't cause trouble," oh and it's a physical jail too. But only three (well, four, but two are Annie) characters are present for this discussion, since the Arbiter seems to have stopped time for it: Annie, Renard, and Kat. What's more, when the Arbiter reappeared in chapter 92, Omega was there but clearly knew nothing about what happened while the Arbiter was present. Omega was certainly able to overhear Annie and Kat talking about the Arrow. But I doubt she was able to overhear the Interpreter explaining the consequences for misusing it. And the same three characters who know about that are the three who can now conspire against Omega. So I think they're going to try to manipulate Omega into trying to use Diego's Arrow in a way that breaks contracts so she'll get put in Arbiter jail. She knows everything about the Arrow except for the misuse warning. My further guess, though, is that although Omega may be put in jail for misusing the Arrow, the Arbiter may not bother to undo whatever Omega's done with it, meaning that Annie, Renard, Kat, and maybe others will be trapped inside it, unable to get out. After all, the Arbiter never did anything to free Jeanne's tree elf boyfriend. Oh, and also, those two chapters I linked to are chapter 3 of Volume 7 and chapter 3 of Volume 8. Chapter 3 of Volume 9 is "The Mind Cage," and chapter 3 of Volume 10 is "About Those Robots," in which Jerrek/Loup gets put in a cage. Is there a pattern here? I don't know when Volume 11 will start, but I wonder whether this will happen in chapter 3 of it. |
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 14, 2024 18:09:54 GMT
I've been thinking about this for a long time – Kat and Annie are talking about Diego's Arrow, Tom explicitly shows us Robot's head on a lab bench outside the room where they're talking, where he can hear this conversation, and then Annie says, "Well, there's nobody I'd trust more to keep it safe than you, Kat!" This is pretty much a canonical promise that either Kat's going to use it for horrible purposes, or that someone's going to steal it from Kat and use it against Annie. Damn, yes. And S13's head is shown right when Kat claims that "a tool is only as dangerous as the person using it"... |
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 15, 2024 20:42:14 GMT
I've been thinking about this for a long time – Kat and Annie are talking about Diego's Arrow, Tom explicitly shows us Robot's head on a lab bench outside the room where they're talking, where he can hear this conversation, and then Annie says, "Well, there's nobody I'd trust more to keep it safe than you, Kat!" This is pretty much a canonical promise that either Kat's going to use it for horrible purposes, or that someone's going to steal it from Kat and use it against Annie. Maybe. But then, here’s a whole fleet trawling for red herring. Damn, yes. And S13's head is shown right when Kat claims that "a tool is only as dangerous as the person using it"... Corollary: fools are dangerous. Dramatic fools are particularly dangerous. |
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