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Post by TBeholder on Jul 27, 2022 10:12:19 GMT
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Post by speedwell on Jul 27, 2022 10:54:29 GMT
I was having an idle poke through the Formspring answer site - I always forget it is there until someone links to it. This "clue" isn't wildspec - it's confirmed by Tom, but it seems best placed here because of the speculation it could give rise to.
We know, because Tom said so, that Coyote could take back the powers he gave away at any time. Presumably the consent or volition of the powers' recipients was not required. Why, then, is Loup not able to take them back as well? Naturally, because there is a part of Coyote that he still does not contain.
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Post by speedwell on Jul 28, 2022 16:48:09 GMT
Oh, I found something just now and a piece fell into place in my mind. Did anyone else wonder what other motives the Court had in condemning Jeanne and her elf lover to such a dreadful fate? I mean... a group of intelligent adepts and scientists would hardly act like a bunch of teenage mean girls to a couple just because another one of their number had a crush on the girl and they wanted to make them break up. They had already successfully separated the two and imprisoned Jeanne (I don't think for a microsecond that they didn't know every word in the "secret" correspondence Steadman participated in), so it wasn't a case of gaining control of a rogue member. The melodramatic, Gothic-novel nature of their magical sacrifice ritual shows that they were up to something. The magical arrow was not built solely because they had a supernaturally gifted archer handy to shoot it in a random direction. The question is, why did the Court do that particular thing in that particular way? Other than the obvious fact that they overdramatize and overcomplicate everything as a matter of course, that is, a tragi-comic flaw they share with good (snerk) old Aleister Crowley. I think this article and the accompanying photos are evidence that the Court were relying on this particular bit of mythology as a guide to attempt to create their own psychopomps. They failed, naturally. Have a look and see what you think.And why did they fail and keep failing? I know one reason. The Court correctly figured out that the Ether makes stories real. They therefore believe that they can force the Ether to make their wishes come true by making up stories about them. Although it is strictly true that magical work is the purposeful and imaginative exercise of a directed will, there are right ways and wrong ways to do so, and "reality has to work this way for no better reason than because I said so" is one of the wrong ways. |
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Post by todd on Jul 28, 2022 23:52:29 GMT
I suspect that the Court chose Jeanne because her grief and horror over her lover's death was a vital component in turning her into a murderous ghost to keep out the Forest - and she was the one who was in love with one of the forest-folk, so that the person killed by Steadman's arrow would be "one of the enemy" (and not even a human, at that) rather than another member of the Court.
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Post by warrl on Jul 29, 2022 3:30:03 GMT
Also, Diego was out for revenge. He may have told lies to get the rest of the Court to go along with his scheme.
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Post by speedwell on Jul 29, 2022 7:10:57 GMT
Also, Diego was out for revenge. He may have told lies to get the rest of the Court to go along with his scheme. They were smarter than that. He didn't use them, though he might have persuaded himself he was responsible for the whole thing. At best his obsession was convenient to them. |
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Post by maxptc on Aug 1, 2022 7:25:40 GMT
This isn't the first time people from Court has moved. Other individuals have done it, possibly have been for a while, and this is just a big reveal.
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Post by blahzor on Aug 1, 2022 11:27:25 GMT
The ocean isn't a ocean because it's actually a visual representation of New York City. Like Coyote and them saw humans as ants
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 2, 2022 0:11:53 GMT
The ocean isn't a ocean because it's actually a visual representation of New York City. Like Coyote and them saw humans as ants Shouldn't it be giant rotten apple full of ants then? |
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Post by blahzor on Aug 3, 2022 8:09:23 GMT
Okay it's not a ocean but a high speed highway
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Post by novia on Aug 3, 2022 16:08:01 GMT
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Post by mturtle7 on Aug 3, 2022 16:16:25 GMT
It's not an ocean, just a tiny water droplet in a carefully sealed container, with it's connection to the rest of space-time distorted so that it appears ocean-like from this beach (and ONLY this beach). The smallest "enclosed system" the Court could engineer, all to create the optimal conditions for Omega and worst possible conditions for any potential Etheric contaminants.
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Post by bedinsis on Aug 5, 2022 19:39:22 GMT
It is established that Zimmy can sense the tic-tocs staring at her. My speculation is that she can also see the reader looking at her. We cannot tell most of the time because of her eye gunk. She was looking at us at this page and this page. |
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 5, 2022 21:43:03 GMT
It is established that Zimmy can sense the tic-tocs staring at her. My speculation is that she can also see the reader looking at her. We cannot tell most of the time because of her eye gunk. She was looking at us at this page and this page. Does that mean the reader is Omega? xD |
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Post by bedinsis on Aug 5, 2022 22:37:20 GMT
It is established that Zimmy can sense the tic-tocs staring at her. My speculation is that she can also see the reader looking at her. We cannot tell most of the time because of her eye gunk. She was looking at us at this page and this page. Does that mean the reader is Omega? xD Well us readers know that the characters of the story has no agency but are puppets to Mr. Siddell's pencil. Like the determinism that the Omega device relies on. And we can also go back and forth in time by flipping pages. And once this series is completed we will know how it goes, so at that point, yes, we are omega, and hopefully this comic will be reread, at which point Zimmy sensing our presence is accurate. |
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Post by blahzor on Aug 8, 2022 14:06:00 GMT
the Omega device is Kat (not our Kat)
Kat is also the water image telling them they are moving off planet
Kat also planned this to get the bad Court people away
Everything in this comic has been as the result of a Kat fixing thing to the point where Annie and Kat grow old and happy as friends
I'm thinking Jones has known all along as she would be something Kat couldn't nudge to get her result but knew she wouldn't interfere
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Post by Gemini Jim on Aug 10, 2022 7:24:20 GMT
The bonus page will feature Kat and Annie playing Star Ocean. |
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Post by speedwell on Aug 11, 2022 0:02:42 GMT
Formally speculating that the mysterious oceanside speaker is a betrayer entity like the ones who deceived Tony into needlessly sacrificing his own hand (and, as far as he knew at the time, his entire independence and livelihood).
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Post by madjack on Aug 12, 2022 8:21:24 GMT
In fact I am going to go so far as to say the Court itself is being manipulated by "trickster" entities. Dragging this one over to wildspec, I'm beginning so suspect, without much basis, that any trickster entity manipulating the Court may well be our protagonists, via future time shenanigans. The concealment of the speaker inviting the Court's select ether-free members to their new world might well be to hide that, rather than hide the introduction of new players in the game this late into the story. |
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Post by alevice on Aug 15, 2022 18:18:36 GMT
Jones being at the formation of Earth is due to the ship/ocean launch failing. Instea do them being sent there, they brought Jones from there and due to etheric shenanigans, she "landed" at that time period. Or just some sort of paradox generated by the launch in general.
Also I a sure the court and the forest dont really exist in the earthly realm entirely, and you may need to use soe sort of etheral trick to find it. Hence why Jones learned about the court and its location way later. The court has to grant access to Jones, she cannot force her way in or smth.
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Post by heranje on Aug 16, 2022 3:33:53 GMT
Wildspec: Bismuth was a god, who was sacrificed somehow to create the Seed Bismuth and grow the Court. The reason Coyote wants Annie to kill him/Loup is so she can repeat the process and create a new Court which is once again interwoven with the forest, with humans, etheric beings (and I guess New People?) living in harmony. The current Court leadership leaving is all an important step in that plan.
See also: the Forest is a powerful etheric place and is part of Coyote, it cannot run without him. But the Forest predates Coyote - he and the dog gang came after the founding of the Court. Did he take over another god's role in the etheric ecosystem, so they could once again live independently of the Court and the Seed Bismuth, the last remnant of their original god?
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Post by blahzor on Aug 16, 2022 4:04:01 GMT
The seed bismuth is a representation of people from England fleeing it but instead of going to the Americas they stumbled upon it, a thing created by their belief to find somewhere new
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Post by alevice on Aug 22, 2022 12:33:35 GMT
Also I a sure the court and the forest dont really exist in the earthly realm entirely, and you may need to use soe sort of etheral trick to find it. Holyctap called it |
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Post by saardvark on Aug 23, 2022 2:18:04 GMT
Also I a sure the court and the forest dont really exist in the earthly realm entirely, and you may need to use soe sort of etheral trick to find it. Holyctap called it I was about to mention it at the point in [2666] comments that Bo No Bo (our primate friend) asks "who gets cookies for *this*?"... but you should take a bow! and a tray of oven-fresh cookies! |
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Post by alevice on Aug 24, 2022 18:33:22 GMT
I am always up for space cookies
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Post by shaihulud on Aug 26, 2022 1:29:22 GMT
My wild spec is that Anthony went to the other planet because of false promises and now people are going to start forgetting him.
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Post by todd on Aug 26, 2022 23:51:25 GMT
I don't think we'll really see this happen, but:
Shortly after the Court sets up base on this new planet,the Omega Device reveals that an asteroid's due to hit their new home, annihilating it, and that the destruction is unavoidable, that the Court can do nothing to escape this fate. Followed by the Court (those members of now living on the new planet) doing nothing to flee or save themselves, but simply preparing themselves for the end, on the grounds that if the Omega Device predicted their annihilation, they can't do anything about it....
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Post by mordekai on Aug 27, 2022 1:37:34 GMT
I don't think we'll really see this happen, but: Shortly after the Court sets up base on this new planet,the Omega Device reveals that an asteroid's due to hit their new home, annihilating it, and that the destruction is unavoidable, that the Court can do nothing to escape this fate. Followed by the Court (those members of now living on the new planet) doing nothing to flee or save themselves, but simply preparing themselves for the end, on the grounds that if the Omega Device predicted their annihilation, they can't do anything about it.... I dunno... most of the regular people who discovered about the new planet just now and still don't even know about the Omega Device would freak out... but since they had shut off the Sea of Stars already, there wouldn't be any way to escape... |
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Post by rafk on Aug 29, 2022 9:48:57 GMT
Having reread some early chapters I can't help now but think that when Kat just assumes they can touch the stuff in Dr Disaster simulations due to "haptic feedback in their suits" (https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=169) this is wrong and the sims are "real" in some fashion..
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Post by heranje on Aug 29, 2022 11:09:57 GMT
Having reread some early chapters I can't help now but think that when Kat just assumes they can touch the stuff in Dr Disaster simulations due to "haptic feedback in their suits" (https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=169) this is wrong and the sims are "real" in some fashion.. In the retrospective for the Dr Disaster chapter, Tom actually said that he originally planned that Kat was going to give this whole tech-y explanation, only for it to be revealed at the end of the chapter that Randy is actually a powerful wizard and is doing it all through magic. He decided against it basically because it felt unnecessary, I think. |
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