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Post by Daedalus on Nov 21, 2016 8:17:51 GMT
Something fractures the Mecha Angel's skull ( as seen by Zimmy), and Jeanne seems to be the most likely candidate to make it happen, but it doesn't fit Jeanne's fighting style. Huh, something else I've noticed - and not entirely sure that it'll lead anywhere in particular, but I digress... Kat's etheric appearance keeps changing in slight ways, anyone else notice this? First it was Zimmy's sighting (as linked by Jelly Jellybean), then there was the ship appearance, then there's the first Annie appearance in the Jeanne and The Other Shore chapters going on now. Couldn't help but notice that the appearance alters slightly from one time to the next, mostly in regards to the piece that is on top of (what I assume is) her forehead. In fact, the latest appearance of hers seems to have what looks like a syringe needle on her head. Part of me wants to question whether Tom has a hard time consistently drawing Etheric Kat's appearance consistently - which given the complexity of the design, I wouldn't blame him - or if we're being given hints or some other symbolism in the changes of her design? I've wondered about this too. Part of this can also be explained by objects around Kat at the time, though: when Zimmy sees her, she has a pigeon on her head, and the "crest" above her face is actually the pigeon's beak. This time, maybe the "syringe" represents the needle she is using to enter Annie's dream space? |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 21, 2016 8:20:01 GMT
ALSO YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED?
A CROSSOVER BETWEEN WESTWORLD AND GUNNERKRIGG COURT.
SERIOUSLY THOUGH: THE WESTWORLD HOSTS INTERACTING WITH ROBOT S13 WOULD BE AMAZING.
"This is a picture of our diety, the ascending machine goddess, Katerina Donlan the Angel."
"Doesn't look like anything to me. By the way, have you ever heard of a guy named Arnold?"
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Post by linchie on Nov 21, 2016 17:52:21 GMT
Theory: Kat is the Omega device. This is a project held by the Court to create a power which can allow them to enter the Ether and manipulate it. Tony was out "researching Omega device" for all the years of his absence - www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1547Maybe he was involved it it because he is, as stated, strongly opposed to Ether/is immune to Ether "magic" in the same way Kat is. During the events of Divine, Kat's etheric form is seen the first time www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1049. I guess Court was able to detect it, maybe from Zimmy's perspective (there has to be a reason they keep her in school and mess with her visions with Etheric stations) - so they got their own machine god. After this, they "allow" Tony to return - www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1558 - seems like his research of the device ended? I guess the events of The Torn Sea may have been provoked by Court too, to see what Kat can do in her status of a machine god (note it was the court's ship to ask her to make a body for him) Kat's parents are participating in this, Donald knows about the device, their lab is located in the place of Diego's laboratory, and they probably knew about his shady projects (The green thing which Kat used in last pages to get there is constructed by her using Diego's documents) |
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Post by Druplesnubb on Nov 22, 2016 14:19:36 GMT
This theory is pretty incoherent. The Court intentionally made Kat what she is but didn't even detect what she was until Chapter 38? And Kat's parents aren't aware of the people researching her? And Tony refers to Kat as "The Omega Device" to her own parents? And he also refers to Kat as "their" (meaning the Court's) rather than "your" when talking to her dad? And Zimmy seeing Kat for a short second means their research on her is done? And they then cause the events of Chapter 49 to see what she can do despite the fact their research on her had ended? I guess they could have called back Tony first after Chapter 49 (since he said there were several months until they contacted him) but even so if I was researching Kat's powers I would have been pretty disappointed with how abruptly the boat experiment ended half-way through.
The power stations affecting Zimmy is just a side-effect. The Court didn't build a an interconnected series of massive buildings siphoning ether from one end of the Court to the other just to mess with the powers of one of their students. Especially not when her powers go haywire all by themselves as soon as you separate her from Gamma.
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Post by seedmagnesium on Nov 24, 2016 5:34:11 GMT
Huh, something else I've noticed - and not entirely sure that it'll lead anywhere in particular, but I digress... Kat's etheric appearance keeps changing in slight ways, anyone else notice this? First it was Zimmy's sighting (as linked by Jelly Jellybean), then there was the ship appearance, then there's the first Annie appearance in the Jeanne and The Other Shore chapters going on now. Couldn't help but notice that the appearance alters slightly from one time to the next, mostly in regards to the piece that is on top of (what I assume is) her forehead. In fact, the latest appearance of hers seems to have what looks like a syringe needle on her head. Part of me wants to question whether Tom has a hard time consistently drawing Etheric Kat's appearance consistently - which given the complexity of the design, I wouldn't blame him - or if we're being given hints or some other symbolism in the changes of her design? I would say it's a combination of being difficult to draw, and the art style. The fact that this depiction isn't completely constant just makes it more eldrich. I wouldn't read any story aspects into it -- "yeah I get this ordinary-looking girl has the scary metal bird form, but what's really bugging my is that it's never quite drawn the same." As has been pointed out, the parts of this form always extend off the page or behind an obstruction, so if it's infinite, than of course different parts will be a little different. |
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Post by bgb16999 on Nov 24, 2016 18:29:15 GMT
I'm envisioning a scenario in which the fact that Reynardine is under Kat's control, and not Annie's, becomes significant as more than an emotional development. For example, suppose the Court does decide to get rid of Annie. Maybe they try to kill her, or maybe they just want to kick her off of Court grounds, but one way or another, they want her gone. The Court sends someone to catch Annie alone to either remove her or harm her unexpectedly. Rey is nearby and protects Annie, telling her to escape. The court agent tries to capture Reynard in the process. Annie is ready to run off to the forest, and calls out for Reynardine to follow her...but he can't, because he is forbidden to try to escape, and Kat isn't there to lift the ban. Heck, maybe Anthony shows up mid-struggle to help in capturing Reynardine, and inadvertently allows Rey to escape ( since if Anthony tries to hurt Reynardine, he can do whatever he needs to defend himself.) Alternatively, Reynardine does get captured, and there is a subsequent breakout organized by Annie, Kat, and the robots. However, I do not think any variation of this scenario is actually likely to occur. For one thing, the transfer of control from Annie to Kat has a purpose in the story already: it is a part of Annie and Rey's character development and internal struggles. It doesn't also need to be an artificial restraint on Reynardine's movements that comes back to bite him. Moreover, I don't think the Court ever actually wanted to expel Annie, for reasons I've discussed earlier in this thread, and outright killing a student seems more violent than the Court's usual methods. And even in the unlikely scenario where the Court does decide to kill Annie, and for some reason hadn't restrained Reynardine first, and everything else lines up so that Kat's control over Reynardine could cause trouble.... any such scenario could be avoided if Kat were to simply grant all-encompassing permission to Reynardine along the lines of "You may do whatever necessary to protect yourself, Annie, me, Paz, George, Andrew, Shadow, Robot, or my parents." And it is entirely possible that Kat has already said something like that off-panel. Hence, even though variations of this scenario keep popping up in my head, I don't think it is at all likely to happen in GKC. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 24, 2016 20:01:08 GMT
I'm envisioning a scenario in which the fact that Reynardine is under Kat's control, and not Annie's, becomes significant as more than an emotional development. For example, suppose the Court does decide to get rid of Annie. Maybe they try to kill her, or maybe they just want to kick her off of Court grounds, but one way or another, they want her gone. The Court sends someone to catch Annie alone to either remove her or harm her unexpectedly. Rey is nearby and protects Annie, telling her to escape. The court agent tries to capture Reynard in the process. Annie is ready to run off to the forest, and calls out for Reynardine to follow her...but he can't, because he is forbidden to try to escape, and Kat isn't there to lift the ban. Heck, maybe Anthony shows up mid-struggle to help in capturing Reynardine, and inadvertently allows Rey to escape ( since if Anthony tries to hurt Reynardine, he can do whatever he needs to defend himself.) Alternatively, Reynardine does get captured, and there is a subsequent breakout organized by Annie, Kat, and the robots. However, I do not think any variation of this scenario is actually likely to occur. For one thing, the transfer of control from Annie to Kat has a purpose in the story already: it is a part of Annie and Rey's character development and internal struggles. It doesn't also need to be an artificial restraint on Reynardine's movements that comes back to bite him. Moreover, I don't think the Court ever actually wanted to expel Annie, for reasons I've discussed earlier in this thread, and outright killing a student seems more violent than the Court's usual methods. And even in the unlikely scenario where the Court does decide to kill Annie, and for some reason hadn't restrained Reynardine first, and everything else lines up so that Kat's control over Reynardine could cause trouble.... any such scenario could be avoided if Kat were to simply grant all-encompassing permission to Reynardine along the lines of "You may do whatever necessary to protect yourself, Annie, me, Paz, George, Andrew, Shadow, Robot, or my parents." And it is entirely possible that Kat has already said something like that off-panel. Hence, even though variations of this scenario keep popping up in my head, I don't think it is at all likely to happen in GKC. I believe Annie lifted Renard's ban on escaping when she came back from her Summer in the Forest and Renard stayed so he could be with Annie. I don't know if this freedom remained after his ownership was transferred to Kat, but I want to think it did. I hope the story continues long enough to see whether Annie stays in the Court and what Renard does if she leaves the Court. |
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Post by todd on Nov 25, 2016 0:31:24 GMT
While I think that the Court's leadership would almost certainly like to deal with Annie somehow, I don't think it would try killing her unless its method could simultanesously kill Reynardine and thus keep him from exploiting his freedom (knowing the Court's take on Rey, they'd probably be expecting his likely response to possess, then abandon, practically every person in the Court, then run back to Gilltie when he'd done so to report that the Court is no more - though I think it unlikely that he'd do something like that). And I suspect by now it wouldn't dare anything against her for fear of angering Coyote again so that he'd show up and knock down more buildings. (Short of figuring out some way of neutralizing Coyote - and maybe Ysengrin and everyone else in Gilltie Wood.) Even shutting her up in a fire-proof cell would be dangerous.
It must be all the more a frustration for them, since in the immediate aftermath of Anthony's return and laying down the law, Annie had become so submissive as to be "de-fanged". It must have seemed to them like the best solution - Annie's will to investigate the strange goings-on in the Court and meddle had been removed. But, short of putting something in her food, I don't think they could succeed at that again.
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Post by bgb16999 on Nov 25, 2016 16:20:16 GMT
I believe Annie lifted Renard's ban on escaping when she came back from her Summer in the Forest and Renard stayed so he could be with Annie. I don't know if this freedom remained after his ownership was transferred to Kat, but I want to think it did. I hope the story continues long enough to see whether Annie stays in the Court and what Renard does if she leaves the Court. Rey's conversation with Hetty came after Annie's return from the forest, so I got the impression it was still in effect. His verbal defense of Annie against Hetty's accusation is to say that the Court wouldn't allow him to roam freely without Annie forbidding him from going to Gilitie Forest. If Annie had actually lifted the ban already, I'd expect Rey would have just told Hetty instead. I could easily be wrong though. While I think that the Court's leadership would almost certainly like to deal with Annie somehow, I don't think it would try killing her unless its method could simultanesously kill Reynardine and thus keep him from exploiting his freedom (knowing the Court's take on Rey, they'd probably be expecting his likely response to possess, then abandon, practically every person in the Court, then run back to Gilltie when he'd done so to report that the Court is no more - though I think it unlikely that he'd do something like that). And I suspect by now it wouldn't dare anything against her for fear of angering Coyote again so that he'd show up and knock down more buildings. (Short of figuring out some way of neutralizing Coyote - and maybe Ysengrin and everyone else in Gilltie Wood.) Even shutting her up in a fire-proof cell would be dangerous. It must be all the more a frustration for them, since in the immediate aftermath of Anthony's return and laying down the law, Annie had become so submissive as to be "de-fanged". It must have seemed to them like the best solution - Annie's will to investigate the strange goings-on in the Court and meddle had been removed. But, short of putting something in her food, I don't think they could succeed at that again. Agreed. Also, the Court does seem to value some of their employees as tools at least if not as people. Attempting to kill Annie, regardless of their success, would be a good way to lose the support of Kat, Parley, Smitty, Eglamore, Anja, Donald, Anthony, and possibly others. And the Court knows at least some of that. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 25, 2016 23:18:30 GMT
I believe Annie lifted Renard's ban on escaping when she came back from her Summer in the Forest and Renard stayed so he could be with Annie. I don't know if this freedom remained after his ownership was transferred to Kat, but I want to think it did. I hope the story continues long enough to see whether Annie stays in the Court and what Renard does if she leaves the Court. Rey's conversation with Hetty came after Annie's return from the forest, so I got the impression it was still in effect. His verbal defense of Annie against Hetty's accusation is to say that the Court wouldn't allow him to roam freely without Annie forbidding him from going to Gilitie Forest. If Annie had actually lifted the ban already, I'd expect Rey would have just told Hetty instead. I could easily be wrong though. Good point. I could try and twist it enough to think the Renard/Hetty conversation was referring to Annie initially ordering Renard to never attempt an escape and Renard didn't tell Hetty that Annie rescinded the order. But I admit it is really big stretch. A better straw to hang onto is whether Annie's order's were rescinded when she transferred ownership to Kat. |
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Post by todd on Nov 26, 2016 0:16:01 GMT
Agreed. Also, the Court does seem to value some of their employees as tools at least if not as people. Attempting to kill Annie, regardless of their success, would be a good way to lose the support of Kat, Parley, Smitty, Eglamore, Anja, Donald, Anthony, and possibly others. And the Court knows at least some of that. Yes. Short of the Court trying to rewrite history as they did with Jeanne and try to somehow make everybody forget that Annie ever existed. And we don't know exactly how they succeeded in doing that with Jeanne, and whether it woud work with Annie. |
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Post by bgb16999 on Nov 27, 2016 1:30:28 GMT
Rey's conversation with Hetty came after Annie's return from the forest, so I got the impression it was still in effect. His verbal defense of Annie against Hetty's accusation is to say that the Court wouldn't allow him to roam freely without Annie forbidding him from going to Gilitie Forest. If Annie had actually lifted the ban already, I'd expect Rey would have just told Hetty instead. I could easily be wrong though. Good point. I could try and twist it enough to think the Renard/Hetty conversation was referring to Annie initially ordering Renard to never attempt an escape and Renard didn't tell Hetty that Annie rescinded the order. But I admit it is really big stretch. A better straw to hang onto is whether Annie's order's were rescinded when she transferred ownership to Kat. Hmm, I hadn't really thought about that. Or rather, I think I had headcanon'd that Annie's orders did transfer over, but looking back my headcanon isn't really supported by the text. We don't really know what the transfer involved, aside from Annie handing Kat the doll with her eyes closed. Thanks for pointing that out. Agreed. Also, the Court does seem to value some of their employees as tools at least if not as people. Attempting to kill Annie, regardless of their success, would be a good way to lose the support of Kat, Parley, Smitty, Eglamore, Anja, Donald, Anthony, and possibly others. And the Court knows at least some of that. Yes. Short of the Court trying to rewrite history as they did with Jeanne and try to somehow make everybody forget that Annie ever existed. And we don't know exactly how they succeeded in doing that with Jeanne, and whether it woud work with Annie. I don't think they had any sort of memory-erasing etheric power. Diego seemed to remember what he did to Jeanne up until his death, and Sir Young's final record seemed to recall sacrifices he had made. I suspect that the wiping out of Jeanne's memory was accompished through mundane means. Namely, i)The founders destroyed or deleted all paper and digital records of her (except for the recording Diego hid in the robot). ii)They did not verbally pass on the story to their students/successors. iii)The founders all died eventually. And it didn't work, since some records concerning what they did to Jeanne were preserved by Diego. If they wanted to make everyone forget that Annie ever existed, I'm not sure they could do so short of killing everyone who knows Annie (including Coyote). |
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Post by warrl on Nov 27, 2016 1:46:59 GMT
An important factor is that apparently all the adults of the Court were complicit in the decision to make Jeanne an unperson - with the remotely-possible exception of the one guy who refused to approve the plan for the double murder* but didn't actually argue against it or lift a finger to prevent it.
I seriously doubt that they could get a similar consensus on a plan to unperson Antimony. Both Donlans, Jones, the new Court Medium, the Court Protector, and the Court Protector-Trainee would probably all object. Possibly among others.
* Yes, I count deliberately putting Jeanne in the depths of the canyon and abandoning her there as murder.
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Post by bgb16999 on Nov 27, 2016 2:28:03 GMT
While I think that the Court's leadership would almost certainly like to deal with Annie somehow, I don't think it would try killing her unless its method could simultanesously kill Reynardine and thus keep him from exploiting his freedom (knowing the Court's take on Rey, they'd probably be expecting his likely response to possess, then abandon, practically every person in the Court, then run back to Gilltie when he'd done so to report that the Court is no more - though I think it unlikely that he'd do something like that). And I suspect by now it wouldn't dare anything against her for fear of angering Coyote again so that he'd show up and knock down more buildings. (Short of figuring out some way of neutralizing Coyote - and maybe Ysengrin and everyone else in Gilltie Wood.) Even shutting her up in a fire-proof cell would be dangerous. It must be all the more a frustration for them, since in the immediate aftermath of Anthony's return and laying down the law, Annie had become so submissive as to be "de-fanged". It must have seemed to them like the best solution - Annie's will to investigate the strange goings-on in the Court and meddle had been removed. But, short of putting something in her food, I don't think they could succeed at that again. Hmm, I wonder... The first step to getting rid of Annie would probably involve re-imprisoning or killing Rey. Ideally, from the Court's perspective, they could deal with him while Annie and Kat are occupied with something else. Uh oh, where's Reynard now? Annie, Kat, and almost every human they can trust not to side with the Court is busy dealing with Jeanne, and Reynard is back in the Court! He better be watching his back right now. I don't think that the Court is using this particular moment to attack Rey, simply because it would require them to be aware that Annie, Kat, Parley, and Smitty are all occupied. If they knew what the protagonists were doing right now, I'd imagine capturing Reynard would be a lower priority for the Court than stopping Annie from freeing Jeanne. Still, in the future, Reynard may need to be careful for his own safety whenever he isn't around Annie, Kat, or the others. |
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Post by todd on Nov 27, 2016 12:31:37 GMT
I don't think they had any sort of memory-erasing etheric power. Diego seemed to remember what he did to Jeanne up until his death, and Sir Young's final record seemed to recall sacrifices he had made. I suspect that the wiping out of Jeanne's memory was accompished through mundane means. Namely, i)The founders destroyed or deleted all paper and digital records of her (except for the recording Diego hid in the robot). ii)They did not verbally pass on the story to their students/successors. iii)The founders all died eventually. And it didn't work, since some records concerning what they did to Jeanne were preserved by Diego. If they wanted to make everyone forget that Annie ever existed, I'm not sure they could do so short of killing everyone who knows Annie (including Coyote). True, which means that they'd have to find other methods of handling her. And I suspected myself that the Court's method of suppressing Jeanne's existence was the mundane one of "rewriting the records" rather than a more etheric "altering everyone's memories" (which they certainly must not have applied to themselves). |
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Post by ST13R on Dec 15, 2016 19:18:11 GMT
So, brainfart:
some people are mentioning that the arrowhead is a rope-cutter, and the trap looked like a 'monkeys trap'. What if green guy was/is actually holding the strings that connected him to Jeanne (just like parley and smitteys strings).
It might be that it is necessary, for some reason, to cut them with coyote's tooth before Jeanne can go into the ether.
/ I should think this through more haha. And not post stuff with my phone being bitchy.
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Post by mturtle7 on Dec 16, 2016 1:38:34 GMT
You'd think, with all these crazy climatic events happening, with countless unforeseeable consequences, that my first post on the forum would be about Jeanne. Or at least, about something to do with the past two chapters. Haha, nope. It's about the Shadow men, who haven't appeared for ages. Actually, the lack of Shadow 2 recently is what inspired me to post. Y'see, the Shadow people have always puzzled me, even more than the robots. Okay, so we know they were originally created by Coyote, that they hate humans, and that they became shadows after living "in the shadows" for so long (backstory here). And we sort of have an idea where Shadow 2 came from by now: he's one of the children (grandchildren?) of these guys that somehow got into the Court on bound dogs (I'm too lazy to find all the links for the discussion around that, but I think it's supported by Tom). But if that's true, then where the are Shadow's family, the ones that came on the Bound dogs? What have they been doing all this time, and why isn't Shadow 2 with them anymore? This page revealed something interesting to me: the Court, with all it's vaunted tracking and surveillance abilities, have never noticed them; Juliet acts like a Shadow Man in the Court is unheard-of. Then this page happened and suddenly all became clear. The Shadow Men CONTROL GUNNERKRIGG COURT. That insanely compartmentalized mega-bureaucracy was incredibly easy to infiltrate, as they possessed more and more people (like they did Robot), higher and higher up the ladder, until they controlled all the departments, and NO ONE knows it. Most Court employees probably haven't even seen the leaders they possessed, much less the Shadows themselves. That perfectly explains why we've never seen these Shadow Men living in the Court. It's also why the Court seems to dislike Annie so much. That's why they've been subtly trying to take Renard (through Tony and the Headmaster): they already tried to steal him once, remember? Coyote doesn't know about this, of course; they harbor no love for the creator that scorned them. The epic confrontation with them is coming soon, now that they've been alerted to Shadow 2's status. Okay, okay, I know, this theory has TONS of holes in it. You can point them out if you really want to. But wouldn't it be more fun to, say, figure out what the Omega Device is, given that this is all true? My new WildSpec abilities are too exhausted to harvest that goldmine, I'm afraid... |
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 16, 2016 11:15:12 GMT
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Post by Druplesnubb on Dec 16, 2016 11:56:24 GMT
People reacted like that because most of them hadn't seen Anthony for ages and had no idea where he was. And even the few who were privy to his location knew that he wouldn't be anywhere near the Court or the Annan Waters.
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Post by bgb16999 on Dec 21, 2016 1:00:34 GMT
I wonder...what would happen if Zimmy met Coyote? Would the two of them together generate a far larger illusory world than normal, entrapping the entire forest and court in Zimmyville? Or would Coyote be able to prevent her from snapping. Or would he enter her world just for his own amusement? The last one sounds the most likely to me, anyhow.
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Post by keef on Dec 21, 2016 11:25:14 GMT
I wonder...what would happen if Zimmy met Coyote? Would the two of them together generate a far larger illusory world than normal, entrapping the entire forest and court in Zimmyville? Or would Coyote be able to prevent her from snapping. Or would he enter her world just for his own amusement? The last one sounds the most likely to me, anyhow.  Tom was asked a lot of questions about this and I really hope it will happen one day. The last answer in the list may be the most relevant to your question. (please do not click the links generated by the Crysoprax search engine. They used to lead to the relevant Formspring Q&A, but since Formspring was bought by some kind of shady matchmaking company, they will now lead you to a world of temptation and adultery not anymore. Or just click 'em what do I care.) |
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Post by Druplesnubb on Dec 23, 2016 11:11:02 GMT
If we can't click the links, how are we supposed to know what "the last answer" is? And why did you post the links in the first place if we shouldn't click on them?
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Post by jda on Dec 23, 2016 16:33:47 GMT
If we can't click the links, how are we supposed to know what "the last answer" is? And why did you post the links in the first place if we shouldn't click on them? Bcause it is Recursive Speculation: you can only speculate What his/her Speculation was about! |
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Post by Per on Dec 23, 2016 16:56:06 GMT
If we can't click the links, how are we supposed to know what "the last answer" is? And why did you post the links in the first place if we shouldn't click on them? I didn't follow the link either, but I'll speculate that keef was referring to ad links on the page in question. |
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Post by keef on Dec 23, 2016 20:29:48 GMT
If we can't click the links, how are we supposed to know what "the last answer" is? And why did you post the links in the first place if we shouldn't click on them? Edited. Happy now?  No good deed goes unpunished on this forum does it? |
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Post by saardvark on Dec 26, 2016 3:13:40 GMT
I believe Annie lifted Renard's ban on escaping when she came back from her Summer in the Forest and Renard stayed so he could be with Annie. I don't know if this freedom remained after his ownership was transferred to Kat, but I want to think it did. I hope the story continues long enough to see whether Annie stays in the Court and what Renard does if she leaves the Court. To me, it read like Annie offered to lift the ban, but Rey said "Don't ask that of me" - don't give me that option. He didn't want the temptation, because in his heart, he really *wants* to stay, both out of the memory of his love for Surma, and his new love (in a more paternal way) for Annie. So Annie dropped the matter and the ban holds, and likely carries over to Kat. |
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 27, 2016 9:42:01 GMT
He didn't want the temptation, because in his heart, he really *wants* to stay, both out of the memory of his love for Surma, and his new love (in a more paternal way) for Annie. So Annie dropped the matter and the ban holds, and likely carries over to Kat. What "temptation"? Even not counting Annie as resent on both sides, right now he is among all those interesting humans, rather than suffering incessant pranks of Coyote and grumbling of 'Grin. |
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Post by saardvark on Dec 27, 2016 12:53:33 GMT
He didn't want the temptation, because in his heart, he really *wants* to stay, both out of the memory of his love for Surma, and his new love (in a more paternal way) for Annie. So Annie dropped the matter and the ban holds, and likely carries over to Kat. What "temptation"? Even not counting Annie as resent on both sides, right now he is among all those interesting humans, rather than suffering incessant pranks of Coyote and grumbling of 'Grin. You have a good point. It isn't a huge temptation, but perhaps it is this: he will have his freedom back. In the Court, he is subject to the orders and rules (however kindly and loving) of Annie and now Kat. Going to the Forest would give him back full control of his life. Perhaps not much, considering his good relationships with Annie and Kat, but to a demigod, it might a bit confining to be so gently "subjugated". |
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Post by kittygirlhazel on Dec 30, 2016 13:24:51 GMT
In regards to the latest page (I posted this in the discussion thread too): Kat now has a way into the ether. She is a life-giving deity. Granted, she has additional domains including robotics, so maybe healing a human's injury is a bit beyond her. Except... if she can make a machine flesh, can she make flesh a machine? If she can make S13 and the ship partly organic, can she do the reverse?
Yes. CYBORG SMITTY. Sort of like Genji Shimada, but a robot medium instead of a robot ninja. I'm probably completely wrong but it'd be awesome.
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 30, 2016 14:12:08 GMT
You have a good point. It isn't a huge temptation, but perhaps it is this: he will have his freedom back. It would be most of the time freedom to either get bored or get bothered. In the Court, he is subject to the orders and rules (however kindly and loving) of Annie and now Kat. Going to the Forest would give him back full control of his life. Perhaps not much, considering his good relationships with Annie and Kat, but to a demigod, it might a bit confining to be so gently "subjugated". And in this light, let's take a look again... |
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