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Post by foresterr on Jul 15, 2015 10:34:30 GMT
I have a feeling that in this case what doesn't kill / irrevocably break her will certainly make her stronger... but I'm not entirely sure at the moment it will be the latter option. Good storytelling I guess
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Post by sherni on Jul 15, 2015 10:38:14 GMT
Poor Annie. It's really heartbreaking to see her like this. It's the most emotion we've seen her display since Daddy dearest popped in, and this reaction is better than the mask but still...
And I'm loathing Anthony all over again. Reprimand your daughter for cheating? By all means. Make it the first thing you say to her in private after you've disappeared from her life for three years and right after you humiliated her in front of her classmates while punishing her in the harshest way and making no allowances for anything she might have been through? Not done. You suck as a parent Mr. Carver, and as a person as well.
If this is the point where Annie, um... splits up, I can see why Elemental Annie is so mad at her father. He drove her to a breakdown.
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Post by pxc on Jul 15, 2015 10:38:27 GMT
Panels 4 and 5 look very bone-lasery.
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Post by todd on Jul 15, 2015 12:34:00 GMT
I do hope Tom is not painting himself in a corner. Given Tom's statement that he'd planned this part of the story for a long time, I don't think we'll need to worry about that.
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Post by Trillium on Jul 15, 2015 12:49:02 GMT
So you had a bad day…
This is such a powerful example of raw emotion…it shows how devastated Annie was by her father’s words and tone and how angry she became.
Back in Ch. 51, The Tree we saw how in the classroom she got was shocked and shamed by her dad’s sudden appearance and treatment. Then she held herself together through the class. Finally she gets her first moments alone with the father she’s been missing for two years and bam; he blasts her with cold criticism, judgment and demands.
The command to release control of Rey over to him cuts all her connections in her world. There may have been the point of denial…this cannot be happening. It is heart breaking.
Any thoughts that Annie and Anthony were putting on an act to scam the Court are over. Even if Tony is doing this for Annie’s own good the way he did it is ghastly and abusive. It is the sort of emotional injury that could take a while to get over. I’m sure Anthony has been apprised of Annie’s powers and would have been ready to put down any attack.
Now we see that Annie ran home and had a breakdown and moved forward into anger, so much anger. I’m glad Annie had the control to not burn the room up or the building down.
Now we wait for the next page.
Tom, this is amazing work showing the emotional journey Annie went through that day. Thank you.
Geese, did Rey see all this? No wonder Annie told him not to talk.
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Post by arf on Jul 15, 2015 13:07:04 GMT
Rey is in the room opposite. I don't think he's aware of the split, so I suspect he isn't seeing this. However, it wouldn't surprise me if he appears very soon.
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 15, 2015 14:27:08 GMT
We can see the cut Jeanne gave her in the final panel, as well as a vertical red line. Do you suspect it's artistic license or a literal psychic wound? Or an indication of a splitting headache.... I'm leaning toward "splitting headache" version. Being too upset is not healthy. Heh, I knew there was more to Tony's jerkiness than just him being a jerk. That emotional trauma was just the trigger for whatever he primed back in chapter 38. He planned this all along, and it all worked just beautifully! The head-pigeon was stuffed with explosives he made from Enigmaron poop.
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Post by Sky Schemer on Jul 15, 2015 14:41:44 GMT
We can see the cut Jeanne gave her in the final panel, as well as a vertical red line. Do you suspect it's artistic license or a literal psychic wound? Or an indication of a splitting headache.... At this point in the flashback I believe it is etheric!Annie on the right. I agree the last panel is showing her in, or transitioning to her in, the ether. Note that her clothes have gone grey and her hair is flowing. Thus we get her scar.
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Post by justcurious on Jul 15, 2015 15:37:24 GMT
Now it becomes apparent that some of what appeared to the direct result of Tony's actions was something more complicated. It still does not excuse him since many of his actions were inexcusable. If Annie was simply as traumatized as she appeared then I think it would take too long for her to get out from under his thumb to make a good story. It's making more sense now. I think Tony has very little understanding of the effect that his actions have on people. He is so stoical that he treats others as if they were as stoical as him. He does not understand the need for comforting that children haven and had no idea of the hurt that he inflicted by his prolonged lack of contact with his daughter. He was comfortable being away from people for monts so he assumed that it was fine from the point of any other person. But he is also self indulgent. We haven't yet seen why he humiliated Annie in front of the class over her makeup but there can be be no excuse for how he did it and no excuse for the first thing he did after his absence being a judgmental condemnation. There has to be some personal reason behind this and it can't be a good one. It will be interesting when Renard finally tell Tony what he thinks of him. Tony shows no sign of any doubts that he is in the right. What will happen when it gets through to him that people think some of his actions are reprehensible?
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Post by stclair on Jul 15, 2015 15:48:34 GMT
oh, Lord.
he broke her. he literally broke her in half.
and that might have been his plan all along.
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Post by nero on Jul 15, 2015 16:02:03 GMT
This is the worst. Did she start crying the moment she left the building with Anthony in it? Is she crying at the same time she's turning into full fire elemental in the ether. I agree that its looking like her body couldn't take this and she just split off naturally.
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Post by hajino on Jul 15, 2015 16:12:37 GMT
The breakdown we all knew happened at some point is now shown in a flashback. And it is heart breaking Well now I'm curious and kind of anxious to see what kind of conversation with Renard will push Annie to command him to silence and cut her hair. Because that part we are still missing. And I suspect it is connected and quite important.
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 15, 2015 16:58:01 GMT
It just seemed like we were seeing the moment of separation in that last panel. Looks a lot like when Rey was being pulled out of his body in Spring Heeled, actually. Have you ever gotten so angry that your mind/soul split into separate entities? Well sometimes I- Sh! Don't tell them anything... I mean no... *nervous smile* I'm betting in the next comic or two, Rey will walk in and say, "Annie. What have you done to your hair?" But, would he look up at the ceiling in confused horror, after that? If Rey knows about the split, I'd imagine he'd tell Kat. Maybe, Kat already knows all this.
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Post by lemmingatk on Jul 15, 2015 17:46:21 GMT
Taking anger management advice from Ysengrin and literally partitioning her anger into a separate being? What could possibly go wrong?
I'm starting to think that by the end of the chapter Etheric Anger-Annie will have burned something in the physical realm, possibly that picture of young Anthony.
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Post by stef1987 on Jul 15, 2015 19:06:20 GMT
I don't think she's already splitting, at least not yet (probably next page I guess) I also don't think getting really upset is enough for her to trigger it, I think it requires more, perhaps the tooth as has been suggested quite often. Quite probably actually, I mean the cut in Fire-Annie's hair has to mean something, right?
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Post by dramastix on Jul 15, 2015 21:49:38 GMT
I'm betting in the next comic or two, Rey will walk in and say, "Annie. What have you done to your hair?" But, would he look up at the ceiling in confused horror, after that? If Rey knows about the split, I'd imagine he'd tell Kat. Maybe, Kat already knows all this. My guess would be she doesn't, or Annie would have been ok with E!Annie hanging out when Kat was there in the last chapter. But then they were also expecting Tony to show, so.... But my gut says the only person who knows what's going on is Annie. And maybe Tony, if he orchestrated this whole mental schism, which I think is likely. He might have reasoned that Annie would need to be the one to cut out her own elemental side, after being unable to do it himself, and to do that she needed to be mentally broken. Which is not to say I don't still think he's a [redacted] for treating her this way.
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Post by Sadie on Jul 15, 2015 22:47:59 GMT
Doesn't Rey usually hold Coyote's Tooth for Annie? Unless she started keeping it somewhere else since Chapter 35, she would have to get it from him. If the Tooth is what she used to make the cut, he'd have to either out-right know what happened, or -- if she sent him out of the room after he spat it out for her or whatever -- at least suspect it was something bad.
Whether or not he'd tell Kat is up in the air. If Annie ordered him to stay silent, would that order still hold after ownership had been passed? Would Rey have at the time to tell/explain to Kat what happened? If Annie asked Rey to promise to keep quiet, is that a promise he would make or keep? Hmmm.
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Post by mordekai on Jul 15, 2015 22:49:49 GMT
This will end in fire. Fire and roasted flesh. And I will like it.
I think the angry fire elemental will manage at some point to physically manifest or to seize control of Annie's body...and then there will be FIRE.
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 15, 2015 23:32:45 GMT
Doesn't Rey usually hold Coyote's Tooth for Annie? Unless she started keeping it somewhere else since Chapter 35, she would have to get it from him. If the Tooth is what she used to make the cut, he'd have to either out-right know what happened, or -- if she sent him out of the room after he spat it out for her or whatever -- at least suspect it was something bad. Worst possible page for Friday: Good thing that Annie only controls his body, and not his mind, no? So happily this can't have happened quite this way. I'm channeling some Freefall here, methinks, where mind control has been done on the protagonist to horrifying effect.
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Jul 15, 2015 23:34:31 GMT
oh, Lord. he broke her. he literally broke her in half. YOU'RE TEARING ME APART, LISA TONY!!
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Post by Ammy on Jul 16, 2015 1:38:03 GMT
aaand then Joeybot shows up and destroys all the dramatic tension.
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 16, 2015 2:04:04 GMT
aaand then Joeybot shows up and destroys all the dramatic tension. And gets blown to smithereens for his trouble.
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Post by machival on Jul 16, 2015 3:11:07 GMT
Yeah, I always wondered what was up with that, why does fire annie have a vertical line through her face? Well, the fire elemntal has been portrayed as having a face like a featureless mask, with the vertical line being the only definition. So probably because of that. I think the real question to be asked is why fire elementals don't have faces.
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Post by Eisenblume on Jul 16, 2015 3:12:05 GMT
Tol' ya it wasn't good.
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Post by Onomatopoeia on Jul 16, 2015 3:53:06 GMT
How very Leonard Church of you, Annie.
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Post by Magpie on Jul 16, 2015 18:51:05 GMT
Awwww. At the ending of last chapter I thought from the look on Annie's face that she'd planned the seperation, but this seems more accidental.
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Post by keef on Jul 16, 2015 21:30:54 GMT
You're tearing me apart Crushing me inside Without your love (You used to lift me up) You're crushing me inside (Now you get me down) With you close by I'm doused in madness Can't lose the sadness It's ripping me apart It's tearing me apart It's tearing me apart
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Post by goldenknots on Jul 17, 2015 4:45:42 GMT
I wonder if we're actually seeing Antimony splitting in the bottom panel, a single panel on closer inspection. I at first thought it was two sequential panels, but it looks like we're seeing both the mundane world and the ether at the same time, no dividing line, just merging of hair in the middle.
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Jul 17, 2015 9:35:51 GMT
You're tearing me apart Crushing me inside Without your love (You used to lift me up) You're crushing me inside (Now you get me down) With you close by I'm doused in madness Can't lose the sadness It's ripping me apart It's tearing me apart It's tearing me apart That's a nice song, but there's a serious lack of Tommy Wiseau
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Post by eyemyself on Jul 17, 2015 17:52:48 GMT
Yeah, I always wondered what was up with that, why does fire annie have a vertical line through her face? Well, the fire elemntal has been portrayed as having a face like a featureless mask, with the vertical line being the only definition. So probably because of that. I think the real question to be asked is why fire elementals don't have faces. Not only that, but the porcelain drama mask Zimmy sees Annie with in divine also has the line down the middle.
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