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Post by Nepycros on Jul 3, 2015 7:01:43 GMT
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Post by Chancellor on Jul 3, 2015 7:03:47 GMT
Seriously, is this thing physical or not?
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Post by youwiththeface on Jul 3, 2015 7:03:59 GMT
Yeah, I'm not getting a good vibe from this at all.
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Post by sapientcoffee on Jul 3, 2015 7:04:17 GMT
You were first, so I'll move over here: 1st: Heat rises - reason for ceiling height? 2nd: 4th panel reminds me of old-style gold painted halos
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Post by Nepycros on Jul 3, 2015 7:04:39 GMT
Seriously, is this thing physical or not? Well, it makes a fine color palette for the otherwise dull room, but aside from that, I can't say for sure.
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Post by gunnerwf on Jul 3, 2015 7:04:38 GMT
It looks happy
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Post by Nepycros on Jul 3, 2015 7:05:25 GMT
You were first, so I'll move over here: 1st: Heat rises 2nd: 4th panel reminds me of old-style gold painted halos I just checked the clock and thought, "Hm, time to check the discussion threads." And lo, nothing. I even refreshed the forum while making the page to hopefully not rain on someone's parade. Even delayed, I still end up somehow ninja'ing posts by mere seconds. My apologies.
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Post by Chancellor on Jul 3, 2015 7:06:39 GMT
Seriously, is this thing physical or not? Well, it makes a fine color palette for the otherwise dull room, but aside from that, I can't say for sure. I lean towards not, as surely someone or something would have seen it, or at least it ought to have started burning the walls it has been in contact with. But I just don't know.
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Post by Nepycros on Jul 3, 2015 7:07:40 GMT
I lean towards not, as surely someone or something would have seen it, or at least it ought to have started burning the walls it has been in contact with. But I just don't know. Blinker stone fires don't burn things carelessly, so elemental flames may be equally easy to control and keep low-hazard.
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Post by sapientcoffee on Jul 3, 2015 7:09:03 GMT
You were first, so I'll move over here: 1st: Heat rises 2nd: 4th panel reminds me of old-style gold painted halos I just checked the clock and thought, "Hm, time to check the discussion threads." And lo, nothing. I even refreshed the forum while making the page to hopefully not rain on someone's parade. Even delayed, I still end up somehow ninja'ing posts by mere seconds. My apologies. Haha, I was doing the same thing: "Seriously, there's no thread yet?!" No worries! =)
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Post by Chancellor on Jul 3, 2015 7:10:05 GMT
Good point.
Hopefully begins the wacky interactions of a girl and her fire and not more horrible revelations about how Annie may or may not be biologically impelled to die young.
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Post by Eversist on Jul 3, 2015 7:11:39 GMT
4th panel reminds me of old-style gold painted halos It's called a "nimbus" or "aureole". *the more you know* (thanks, 4 required semesters of art history).
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Post by youwiththeface on Jul 3, 2015 7:13:51 GMT
Hm...the court has machines that can pull ether from the environment. Maybe this room works similarly?
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Post by geoduck on Jul 3, 2015 7:14:54 GMT
Well, it makes a fine color palette for the otherwise dull room, but aside from that, I can't say for sure. I lean towards not, as surely someone or something would have seen it, or at least it ought to have started burning the walls it has been in contact with. But I just don't know. Maybe Annie was put in this room specifically because the walls can't be burned.
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Post by Nepycros on Jul 3, 2015 7:14:56 GMT
Good point. Hopefully begins the wacky interactions of a girl and her fire and not more horrible revelations about how Annie may or may not be biologically impelled to die young. Though the elemental might wanna do something about the stink eye. And, y'know... the uh... the curves thing. Even in the first panel you can see some development, what with the lack of clothes and all. I'm not one to randomly start ships between flames and other, more human characters, but then again, I'm not the first to do it.
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Post by carasanathema on Jul 3, 2015 7:15:25 GMT
You know, with its eyes like that it seems to be mimicking Annie's closed eyes expression. I wonder if they're both concentrating to keep the separation going, that the fire part is actually trying to help, though probably while in pain. Or it's an artificial separation caused by Tony that just has that effect. I really can't believe that Tony wouldn't know this is happening or didn't have a hand in it, but if Surma was in love with him, wouldn't it be possible that the fire aspect has some loyalty to that and would try to go along with this? I'm not sure I believe this, but the expression here really got me thinking.
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Post by fwip on Jul 3, 2015 7:16:57 GMT
I thought the fire-thing's expression looked familiar, but now I was able to place it. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=778 I don't really have any more doubts about the fire-entity's temperament, given that it's shared with a creature that's basically held together by hatred. too tired to check the above for canon accuracy zzz
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Post by justcurious on Jul 3, 2015 7:20:08 GMT
Remember we have been told that a blinker stone cannot become lost that its owner can summon it wherever it is and see through it if it is elsewhere. I think Tony knows enough not to try to take Annie's blinker stone. I would not be surprised if the fire elemental part of Annie is gathered around the blinker stone and connected to Annie that way. I'm not prepared to read its expression. But it looks as if it is being hidden and kept safe. And there is only one danger than Annie is likely to be hiding it from.
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Post by Nepycros on Jul 3, 2015 7:21:56 GMT
Remember we have been told that a blinker stone cannot become lost that its owner can summon it wherever it is and see through it if it is elsewhere. I think Tony knows enough not to try to take Annie's blinker stone. I would not be surprised if the fire elemental part of Annie is gathered around the blinker stone and connected to Annie that way. See, we don't even know if Annie's still capable of... being etheric. Her talents have always seemed so natural and fluid, but her overall character has been reduced to "Tony's meat shield", to the extent we can't make judgments on just what she's physically or etherically capable of, especially since a very real component of herself that's sustained her relevance to the plot all these years is severed from her.
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Post by Bill on Jul 3, 2015 7:23:40 GMT
Panel 4 is significantly more pained and/or angry than the end of last chapter. Is that a calm face in the first panel, or a low-detail face? If so, then it may be that the elemental is emotionally/etherically attached to Annie. "'Fire Head Girl, let me ask you; when Surma was alive, you were by here side at all times, yes?' 'Yes, we... couldn't bear to be apart.'" (p819) I really, really hope we don't have a 'Antimony is dying as the Fire gains strength' crisis.
Also Annie has had her eyes closed 3 of the last 4 content pages.
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Post by OrzBrain on Jul 3, 2015 7:32:20 GMT
Annie sure seems to be walking around with her eyes shut a lot lately. How's she keeping from running into walls and stuff? Is this evidence that she has ESP even though she seems to have removed the magic part of herself? I mean, how else can she tell where she's going?
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Post by Nepycros on Jul 3, 2015 7:37:00 GMT
Annie sure seems to be walking around with her eyes shut a lot lately. How's she keeping from running into walls and stuff? Is this evidence that she has ESP even though she seems to have removed the magic part of herself? I mean, how else can she tell where she's going? Seeing eye elemental?
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Post by justcurious on Jul 3, 2015 7:37:46 GMT
Annie has been talking about how hard it is to stay calm and have a semblance of control. And we know that she can go berserk and very hurtful as we saw in "Fire Spike". Could this be her shutting her anger away so that she does not kill or injure her father?
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Post by madragoran on Jul 3, 2015 7:45:44 GMT
Annie sure seems to be walking around with her eyes shut a lot lately. How's she keeping from running into walls and stuff? Is this evidence that she has ESP even though she seems to have removed the magic part of herself? I mean, how else can she tell where she's going? Yep. I was just going to point this out. She's cut herself in half and now she seems to be sleepwalking through life. And as someone else pointed earlier. She is becoming Jeanne (sp?) at least visually. I'd venture as fas as to ask which bit is the real Annie.
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 3, 2015 7:47:20 GMT
Normal day, just hanging from the ceiling. Seriously, is this thing physical or not? I don't think so. Fire isn't easy to hide in a featureless room. Up until recently, we've been seeing the Ether from mostly Annie's point of view. Perhaps now that she's "changed", her perception of Etheric things has changed, and with it our perception. Her clothes aren't grayish and there's no scar. But maybe, if we're seeing it from Annie's "grounded" POV, they shouldn't be visible. I'm wondering if the Fire follows her around all day. Just hanging above her and watching. With Etheric students/faculty about, that's not very sneaky of them,. But with her eyes closed during the last chapter, she seems to be communing with it.
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Post by speedwell on Jul 3, 2015 7:53:06 GMT
Yep. I was just going to point this out. She's cut herself in half and now she seems to be sleepwalking through life. And as someone else pointed earlier. She is becoming Jeanne (sp?) at least visually. I'd venture as fas as to ask which bit is the real Annie. Well, yes, they are both the real Annie. As far as Jeanne is concerned, I think the key to her is empathy. We've seen that not being understood is a hot button with her. The theme of the Court and Forest and Jeanne and in many ways the whole comic is wrenching, imposed-from-outside separation--physical, emotional, spiritual, and magical. And Annie's getting more than her share of that experience at the moment.
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Post by keef on Jul 3, 2015 8:16:46 GMT
Normal day, just hanging from the ceiling. I sincerely hope this day doesn't stay normal. I had it with Annie's new normal. Her elemental side seems to agree. (Wishful thinking)
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Post by tesla727 on Jul 3, 2015 8:33:17 GMT
I find it interesting how even though the hair of the elemental is separate from the rest of the flame, the body appears to meld into it (esp. in frame 1)
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Post by Fishy on Jul 3, 2015 8:34:51 GMT
I wonder if she ever has to explain "My fire elemental side disintegrated my homework."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 8:51:44 GMT
Unless Anthony knows about the Fire having split off from Annie, she must have chosen to live in that fireproof hermit's cave herself. For that matter, she has probably withheld that detail of the plan from Kat -- why is that stupid room so big, indeed. Edit: Here's a poem by Baudelaire that I just thought of when substituting "cave" for "chamber" 4th panel reminds me of old-style gold painted halos It's called a "nimbus" or "aureole". *the more you know* (thanks, 4 required semesters of art history). Since you have rendered me functionally obsolete already (I took Byzantine art history), I shall default to rambling again: Bulgarian employs the same word for "halo", "nimbus" and "glory" -- it's oreol, automatically paired by assonance with gol, which means "nude" -- but "rose" in Persian, where you will also find bolbol for "nightingale". The Russian oryol, if similar on paper, is a different beast. To wit, "areola" is the area around a nipple. On an entirely unrelated note, I wonder if there exists a pessimistically reversed Turing test that checks whether a given human's verbal output can be distinguished from that of a Markov chain generator. If not, I hereby lay claim to the naming rights. I thought the fire-thing's expression looked familiar, but now I was able to place it. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=778 I don't really have any more doubts about the fire-entity's temperament, given that it's shared with a creature that's basically held together by hatred. too tired to check the above for canon accuracy zzz The fire elemental seems to have a cut on its cheek, distinguished by not pointing towards the center of the face, although it's situated on the wrong side compared to Annie's Etheric wound (that might be significant, too).
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