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Post by atteSmythe on Apr 29, 2015 19:32:27 GMT
Also: Gorgeous image. New phone lock screen for me!
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Post by The Anarch on Apr 29, 2015 20:13:14 GMT
I actually 'shopped up a pic turning the page into a Target ad, but chickened out at the last second. Aww, don't tell me you didn't save it. You totally gotta share that! Hah, I didn't save it, but it was an extremely simple crop and text job, easy to do up again. I'll put it over in the opportunity thread here in a moment. |
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Post by stef1987 on Apr 29, 2015 21:10:51 GMT
I kinda feel like this chapter was too short- like it had conflict with no resolution. Annie's dad shows up, he acts like an ass, Annie folds like a wet paper towel. Roll credits. I realize it's obviously setting up the next bit, but somehow I feel like it just doesn't stand well on it's own. it was extremely short page-wise as well, if the next chapter were to continue on this I would expect it to just be combined into 1 chapter, I can only deduce from this that next chapter will be about something completely different. (hence the need to stop the chapter here) deduce, not a word I use often,
I always like it when I get to use a word I normally never use.
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Post by fish on Apr 29, 2015 21:44:15 GMT
I hope we get to find out what the hell is up with Anthony soon. No explanation is ever going to excuse his behavior toward Annie in my eyes. I just want to know what his deal is. There was a post on tumblr a few weeks ago. Here ist the link. Here is what it said: I am so curious as well. Ah, it is great to be alive and to be able to read this comic. |
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Post by psybershadow on Apr 29, 2015 22:05:47 GMT
Well that isn't creepy at all. What surface is she lying on? I find it odd that most of the cracks radiate out from Annie. I wonder if the image she adopted, partly because of Surma, has something to do with how she hides the cracks in her psychology? |
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Post by sable0aria on Apr 29, 2015 22:38:14 GMT
I hope we get to find out what the hell is up with Anthony soon. No explanation is ever going to excuse his behavior toward Annie in my eyes. I just want to know what his deal is. There was a post on tumblr a few weeks ago. Here ist the link. Here is what it said: I am so curious as well. Ah, it is great to be alive and to be able to read this comic. I saw that too, and I'm hoping it means like in the next chapter, but it could also be a few agonizing chapters away. |
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Post by The Anarch on Apr 29, 2015 22:40:35 GMT
The next five chapters will be all about Jones.
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Post by Pig_catapult on Apr 29, 2015 23:22:20 GMT
There was a post on tumblr a few weeks ago. Here ist the link. Here is what it said: I am so curious as well. Ah, it is great to be alive and to be able to read this comic. I saw that too, and I'm hoping it means like in the next chapter, but it could also be a few agonizing chapters away. A good reason to end this chapter where it did would be to make a jump back to demystify what the heck Tony has been up to. It would be a strange choice, otherwise. |
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Post by Sadie on Apr 29, 2015 23:54:24 GMT
I think this post was really on to something. Right now I'm seeing Annie as the tree. Her hair is her root system, her connection to the forest in both a physical and an etheric sense. Cut off has many meanings. The court is preventing her contamination from spreading (specifically/especially to Kat?). I also like that there are five cracks in that surface. Kudos to the person who caught that. , I apologize. Until ozie's post, I didn't get your point, which I now see was excellent. Thanks, Ozie. About the cracks: yes, good eye there. Although I only three: One long one, from upper right to middle left; another short one splitting off from that main one on the lower left; and a third one on the lower right, which may also join the main crack under Annie's head, but which doesn't extend all the way out of the circle. Oh, and I see a fourth one, very faint, running parallel to that last. I don't know how symbolic they are, or what they may be symbolic of. No worries, I realize looking back that I was implying more than explaining my idea. I meant to come back to it with more detail, but life intervenes! ozie got it in one what I was going for. Also, I've had the thought for a while that the Court is suspicious of where Annie's loyalties lie with regard to the Court and Forest, especially after she spent the summer there, but something about this chapter settled into my head the idea that it's more than just doubts about her loyalties. They're suspicious that she's being out-right controlled, either etherically or through manipulation. This was largely inspired by a moment way back in 'Questions & Answers', where Eglamore automatically assumed that the reason Annie crossed the bridge was because Reynardine asked her to, then reinforced by Jones's " You're making a mistake" in 'Firespike'. |
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 30, 2015 2:59:47 GMT
The next five chapters will be all about Jones. The comedic double act of Jones and Disaster! The straightest straight woman, and a banana man that's completely bananas! A complete farce from the Court's faculty of calculated fun! Coming to a BotMAX cinema near you. |
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Post by stclair on Apr 30, 2015 8:35:40 GMT
This was a beautiful and a sad page. So much was said with so little. And I don't think we'll actually find out how she looks in the ether with short hair, with that haircut she will not be going to the ether. Quoting for full agreement. |
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Post by youwiththeface on Apr 30, 2015 8:51:45 GMT
The next five chapters will be all about Jones. The comedic double act of Jones and Disaster! The straightest straight woman, and a banana man that's completely bananas! A complete farce from the Court's faculty of calculated fun! Coming to a BotMAX cinema near you. I would not mind a chapter like that, actually. But only after this stuff with isolated Annie and Tony is resolved, or I'd lose my mind worrying and wondering about that. |
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Post by aline on Apr 30, 2015 11:16:51 GMT
I kinda feel like this chapter was too short- like it had conflict with no resolution. Annie's dad shows up, he acts like an ass, Annie folds like a wet paper towel. Roll credits. I realize it's obviously setting up the next bit, but somehow I feel like it just doesn't stand well on it's own. it was extremely short page-wise as well, if the next chapter were to continue on this I would expect it to just be combined into 1 chapter, I can only deduce from this that next chapter will be about something completely different. (hence the need to stop the chapter here) I also expected that chapter to be much longer and offer some kind of resolution (if only partially), like we've been used to for the past years. To be honest, it feels like a prologue. I can only guess, but I think this means this arc will be bigger and more complex than anything we've seen so far in Gunnerkrigg. And this chapter was only there to get things started. I can't wait ^^
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Post by speedwell on Apr 30, 2015 12:32:01 GMT
Well, Antimony's hair has been cut off... and she has been cut off from contact with so many things... and in a genius storytelling moment, Tom has cut the chapter off as well. Bravo.  |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Apr 30, 2015 12:53:13 GMT
I now have the image of another splash page stuck in my head. It is a whole page of nothing but hair. Brown hair on one side and black hair on the other. Where they meet, the brown hair is overlapping the black hair. If it was't obvious... Paz comforting Kat.
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Post by arf on Apr 30, 2015 13:05:45 GMT
This chapter's abrupt ending serves to underscore that the changes we've just seen are long term, even permanent. This is called plot development. It is not often seen in comfortable weekly TV shows (like, er... 'Friends'?*).
Actually, the last two chapters have been shorter than the long term average has been (~20 pages, rather than 30).
'Five' cracks? Initially, I thought the bone lasers would surely been depicted as five distinct cracks? Then I recalled the bone laser array had been damaged, somewhat. (Now, what if that halo were modified to be the Court symbol?)
*Disclosure: I have never seen 'Friends', and have no idea whether the characters change. Lord strike me down if they do.
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Post by cobaltflame on Apr 30, 2015 20:14:08 GMT
This whole chapter really hit home for me. I have red hair that falls all the way down to my bellybutton, pretty much like Annie's used to be. It's ridiculously long and curly and frizzy and falls in my face and gets caught in seatbelts and around chair posts and takes ages to wash and even longer to dry and I think it is absolutely wonderful.
My mother hates it.
She never forced me to cut it, but she never had the same kind of sway over me that Anthony has over Annie. I stopped wanting to impress her when I was eleven. (I last cut my hair when I was eleven.) What she did do was forbid me to leave the house without my hair braided back, and I wore it like that every day until I finished school. She would do it herself since I never did it tight enough or smooth enough for her satisfaction. My eighteen-year-old self would stand in front of the mirror every morning while my mother did my hair like I was a child, binding back the only thing about me I ever found attractive, while my fifteen-year-old sister would drag a brush through her walnut-ink-brown hair and be done. It was not a flattering look on me, and sometimes I would take it down at school, just to feel pretty. People would comment, "Oh, you should wear it down more often," "You have the most gorgeous hair," "What a lovely shade!" And my gut response every time, the first thing I say to compliments about my hair even now?
"My mother hates it."
I kept it because I liked it. I kept it because she didn't. It was a small victory, to keep something she wanted gone. Everything else she told me to do with it, I did, partly because she was, and still is, a very imposing woman when she wants to be, when it comes to her family, and partly because my hair was the source of most of our conflict. But I still have it. I don't know if I won, but I've got that much.
Annie doesn't. I don't think there's any chance that she cut her hair of her own accord, even to impress her father, because she loved her hair. She does all sorts of twists and hairstyles with it, she uses it to come back to herself after the non-kiss with Jack, it's the most noticeable thing about her in the ether, and it is her most visceral connection to her mother. The haircut is all Anthony's idea, and she goes along with it, because she wants him to love her, or because she fears him. Both, probably. She no longer has the willpower to tell him to stuff it, the way I did, or tried to, with my mother.
So yeah. Even the smallest things, like a haircut, or a hairstyle, can be evidence of a parent's control of their child.
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Post by yla on Apr 30, 2015 23:49:42 GMT
This is a very powerful page.
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Post by atteSmythe on Apr 30, 2015 23:51:58 GMT
You know, this was just the second chapter of the book, right?
This chapter was just setting up the conflict for this book. Buckle up, friends, because we're probably in for this ride for the next two years.
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Post by quark on May 1, 2015 7:10:29 GMT
[very powerful writing, but long] So yeah. Even the smallest things, like a haircut, or a hairstyle, can be evidence of a parent's control of their child. Thank you for that insight - I don't know if Annie's relationship to her hair is similar, but she likes it long. And, apparently, it's a very unusual colour in-universe, so it's evidence of her Fire Elemental persona (which is maybe why Anthony doesn't like it) |
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Post by Rasselas on May 1, 2015 8:36:16 GMT
This whole chapter really hit home for me. I have red hair that falls all the way down to my bellybutton, pretty much like Annie's used to be. It's ridiculously long and curly and frizzy and falls in my face and gets caught in seatbelts and around chair posts and takes ages to wash and even longer to dry and I think it is absolutely wonderful. My mother hates it. Thank you for sharing this with us. Beautiful writing. Ha. While I was reading, I almost thought you were talking about Annie here, the parallels are so strong. My mother did the same thing as yours, with my hair. She would insist on brushing it and tightening it back in a ponytail. I was never allowed to wear it loose, because she said it was untidy. It's definitely all about control. It's ugly. We played a wild goose chase with it: at first she wanted me to cut it, so I let it grow really long. Then when she got used to it long, I got a buzz cut. I wanted to shave it off completely, but she wouldn't allow it. My hair was a piece of resistance. I hope you get to enjoy your beautiful hair nowadays! |
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Post by fuzzyone on May 2, 2015 15:38:25 GMT
I know this isn't the first time I've drawn attention to this, but there seems to be a theme with Annie, where her father is involved. Rather than point you all in the associated direction, took the liberty of combining 3 examples into one picture. I noticed it immediately on this page.  |
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Post by The Anarch on May 2, 2015 16:33:01 GMT
I know this isn't the first time I've drawn attention to this, but there seems to be a theme with Annie, where her father is involved. Rather than point you all in the associated direction, took the liberty of combining 3 examples into one picture. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on May 2, 2015 17:06:21 GMT
I know this isn't the first time I've drawn attention to this, but there seems to be a theme with Annie, where her father is involved. Rather than point you all in the associated direction, took the liberty of combining 3 examples into one picture. I noticed it immediately on this page. Great eye and memory! I noticed the dowsing rod/stick shadow on the apple but I didn't connect with other pages like you have. |
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Post by Refugee on May 2, 2015 17:31:37 GMT
I know this isn't the first time I've drawn attention to this, but there seems to be a theme with Annie, where her father is involved. Rather than point you all in the associated direction, took the liberty of combining 3 examples into one picture. I noticed it immediately on this page. Very well spotted. I can only add that two of the images, the apple and Annie's haircut, are centered on the junction, while in the Microsat 5 image, Annie is sitting considerably upstream. |
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Post by Dvandaemon on May 3, 2015 23:57:07 GMT
That is one nice drawing! Unfortunately her face looks nothing like her, but it's still a great drawing I don't recall ever seeing her directly from the front so I don't think so. |
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Post by Refugee on May 4, 2015 1:03:58 GMT
There's at least a few pictures of her that are almost full face. I seem to recall one of the scenes where she calls up her etheric hair in anger. The fight between Ysengrin and the skulkers at the ruin, perhaps? Anyway, the wind blows her hair straight back from her face, from her forehead and temples, and it looks very much like her face here.
Some of it may be the fact that she's lying down, face totally relaxed, and her flesh hangs differently.
And some of it, of course, is just the way Tom drew this portrait.
>shrug<
Something's been nagging me all this time. Despite being separated from her etheric hair, it's still there, waiting for her to awaken again.
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