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Post by warrl on Feb 22, 2015 6:52:31 GMT
Would Shell count as genderfluid? Unfortunately we don't know anything about her, yet... I wouldn't care to guess Shell's sex OR gender, from what we've seen. - El Goonish Shive has a genderfluid main character, an (arguably) post-surgical-equivalent-transgender main character, and now a transgender minor-so-far character. But then seven of the eight main cast members (plus about a half-dozen minor and background characters) are known to have been sex-changed at least twice via magic, and two main characters do so routinely. That's just the sort of comic it is. It has been cited as an example of gender-bending done WELL. Currently on pre-announced hiatus for another week.
- TwoKinds has a transgender main character. How it happens that this character is transgender is a bit odd, but aside from that it's apparently a pretty realistic presentation (well, considering that most of the characters are furries, anyway). Note: non-sexual furry nudity.
- Rain has a transgender title character and at least two transgender minor characters. The rest of the main 8 are of varying gender identity and sexual orientation, only one of them cisgender heterosexual - a mildly implausible concentration of non-conventional characters. Currently on pre-announced hiatus, probably for about a month, while the author-artist gets some surgery done and recovers from it.
- Venus Envy is a story about a transgender character with a more plausible supporting cast, but it abruptly went on an unannounced hiatus a bit over a year ago (apparently not the first time the artist has done this with this comic) and is stopped at an awkward spot in the story.
- Questionable Content has a recently-revealed transgender character that might be stepping up from minor to main. Note: occasionally NSFW (sexual nudity, language).
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Post by keef on Feb 22, 2015 8:42:18 GMT
The tweaking thing would definitely explain why peeps like fish guy look the way they do. Have we actually seen the fish guy's body? I only recall seeing him in the Ether. Not his body, but his face was on the bonuspage. warrl you forgot Band vs band.(or don't recommend it; I do) |
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Post by sidhekin on Feb 22, 2015 10:12:48 GMT
I'd thought the bonus page just showed their ether faces, but now I see their collars are white on the bonus page. In the ether, all except Bugsy had grey clothes.
Hmmm ...
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Post by TBeholder on Feb 22, 2015 10:43:58 GMT
In panel 6, Annie is wearing a pale-reddish-brownish top. In the panel directly above it, she's clearly wearing a blue top. Also the strap for her oxygen tank changes from green to tan. Whatever the gas in that room is, it absorbs green light. Or maybe, just maybe, there is no green light. Are these bodies growing via photosynthesis? I don't think this word means what you think it means. Personally I would like to see more genderfluid or transgender *minor* - even *background* - characters in stories that are *not* about gender identity or sexuality. Ah. I see. Welcome to Earth. Try not to bait humans for sport - yes, it's kind of funny, but look up what they did to those cave bears. :/ So... they make luminiscent clothes on... well, where you are from? I doubt it's very useful, but sounds like fun. |
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Post by lit on Feb 25, 2015 16:05:14 GMT
El Goonish Shive has a genderfluid main character, an (arguably) post-surgical-equivalent-transgender main character, and now a transgender minor-so-far character. But then seven of the eight main cast members (plus about a half-dozen minor and background characters) are known to have been sex-changed at least twice via magic, and two main characters do so routinely. That's just the sort of comic it is. It has been cited as an example of gender-bending done WELL. Currently on pre-announced hiatus for another week. Haha, if Ted was "done WELL" it really goes to show what a dearth of good trans portrayals there actually are.* I will say though that as painful as it was to read that comic, the author did make me care about the characters and I cried more than once. I'll grant that EGS has been going a long time and a lot of it was written before the author had any understanding of how to portray a trans character sensitively, and lately he does really appear to be making an effort to cater to the trans community/be socially conscious. But it all gets a little heavy-handed at points. That and his tendency to explain everything excessively in character dialogue and then some more in between-chapter FAQs. Dumbing of Age has two minor trans characters; the author may be revving up to focus more on one of them soon. She appears in today's strip, as a matter of fact. *I love Ted |
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Post by warrl on Feb 25, 2015 17:40:13 GMT
(1) It was genderbending that the reviewer said EGS did well. Specifically in contrast to The Wotch, if I remember correctly. But I never found anything to like in The Wotch, so I'm not sure about that.
(2) Tedd isn't trans; Tedd is fluid. Ellen (arguably, and definitely a special case) and Sam (new minor character) are trans.
(3) I agree it's kind of surprising that Dan (the artist/author), with very little apparent knowledge of the reality of transgender or genderfluid people, and using casual genderbending for laughs, managed to be so respectful for so long. I think it says good things about what sort of person Dan is. (Of course, considering the appearance of Dan's author-avatar in some of the one-offs, I also suspect that Dan is fluid himself.)
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Post by lit on Feb 25, 2015 19:47:33 GMT
(1) It was genderbending that the reviewer said EGS did well. Specifically in contrast to The Wotch, if I remember correctly. But I never found anything to like in The Wotch, so I'm not sure about that. (2) Tedd isn't trans; Tedd is fluid. Ellen (arguably, and definitely a special case) and Sam (new minor character) are trans. (3) I agree it's kind of surprising that Dan (the artist/author), with very little apparent knowledge of the reality of transgender or genderfluid people, and using casual genderbending for laughs, managed to be so respectful for so long. I think it says good things about what sort of person Dan is. (Of course, considering the appearance of Dan's author-avatar in some of the one-offs, I also suspect that Dan is fluid himself.) Yeah, sorry about that. I was in a hurry and I misread, should probably stop commenting on these threads from work. I'm not sure if I would consider it an example of genderbending done well, or particularly respectfully, but I don't really have a basis for comparison. I haven't read the Wotch or anything. Anyway, the way the gender-switching was handled made me uncomfortable on many occasions but the main thing that kept me invested in the story was how obviously trans Tedd was, almost from the very beginning. Genderfluid is in fact a trans identity along with other nonbinary trans identities. Not every genderfluid person considers themselves trans, but it's a community they have access to, along with anybody who identifies as genders other than the one they were assigned at birth. Tedd is about as trans as I am, at least. |
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