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Post by lunaleaf on Oct 10, 2014 11:53:00 GMT
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Post by Ophel on Oct 10, 2014 14:09:58 GMT
I didn't realise just how far away they are from the Court. I see no outline of the place in the horizon.
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Post by November on Oct 10, 2014 14:19:51 GMT
Rey actually ended up leaving the court! Holy moley. It seems to be in an official capacity, so hopefully he won't get into any sort of trouble over it. Annie told him to leave the Court (rally the robots and come help). The only reason he couldn't leave the Court is because the Court made Annie order him to stay in the Court. Edit: Can't find the page concerning Annie ordering Rey to stay in the Court, must get more coffee..... Also, totally agree. The new order "Help me" overrides the old order "Stay in the Court". |
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Oct 10, 2014 14:22:55 GMT
Is it me or is Renard bigger? My cousin sometimes uses his abilities subconsciously. |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Oct 10, 2014 15:06:26 GMT
I hope nobody expected that they would just show up and everything would be hunky-dory. They put a lot of effort into amplifying and controlling Zimmy's power. I'm surprised the tear is so clean though, I expected a lot more... leakage. To elaborate: If Zimmy wasn't actually altering reality, this whole exercise would be pointless since the ship would return to normal once the Etheric Distortion ended. This time there's going to be real, lasting effects coming from this. It wouldn't surprise me if this messed with Zimmy's world as well as the real world. This is assuming somebody doesn't manage to render everything that occurs in this chapter moot through some sort of wizardry. The particular strip your avatar is from is fitting for this chapter, haha!  |
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Post by Blitz on Oct 10, 2014 15:06:56 GMT
I read the description below as 'Goodbye, Renard', which scared the shit out of me.
Somehow I felt both relief and disappointment at the same time when I looked again.
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Post by aaroncampbell on Oct 10, 2014 15:08:51 GMT
AW YISS THE MOTHA FUCKIN CAVALRY Or...navalry? |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Oct 10, 2014 15:22:32 GMT
At first glance I saw a kind of Batman logo in that outline, but then I quickly revised that mentally. Now it really looks like the outline to a ray to me. The head is a little odd, but perhaps that's to indicate the cephalic fins being extended (which would indicate it's about to feed on the group of ships approaching it!) In any event, it would be interesting if Kat turned the ship into a ray!
I think it's a fairly plausible idea; a ray would give the kids a flat dry place to be rescued from if it were surfaced when it returned to our world. Plus, who wouldn't like a new epic-ly large sea creature to add to the likes of the kraken and whatnot?
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Post by Eversist on Oct 10, 2014 16:16:00 GMT
Rey actually ended up leaving the court! Holy moley. Well, maybe not. The boats are part of the court, and the robots he's leading are part of the court. So one could say he's taking the court with him. Great point! But the Court is HUGE right? They may still be within the Court. On the Gunnerkrigg artificially created inland sea. These guys have rooms with cherry trees in them, why not a sea? While this may be the case, the girls also said something about which ocean they were on at the beginning of the chapter (which, of course, they could be wrong since they were basically guessing). www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1384I guess the Court's territory could totally extend out into the Atlantic; nations do that, so why not the Court?  Rey actually ended up leaving the court! Technically, he's on board of the Court's ship, so the tradition says no, he didn't. The tradition? Anywho, I would say leaving the boundaries of the Court counts as "leaving the Court," but yeah, the boat thing may apply. It seems to be in an official capacity What's his official capacity? It's on Annie's request. I would assume Rey didn't have a fleet of boats handy. Someone of the Court's staff is probably with him (Jones maybe? She's dealt with Zimmy before). I assume Annie just used Rey (since he was a strong magic user and close friend for the tracker spell) to get the Court's attention (I wonder if he didn't tell Eggers and Kat's parents at the least, who would probably tell the Court). I really hope it's not just robots. Again, I could be wrong. But if the Court didn't come out to help when their students are in danger (I'm willing to bet the ship went off the radar), they're kinda shitty administration. Annie told him to leave the Court (rally the robots and come help). The only reason he couldn't leave the Court is because the Court made Annie order him to stay in the Court. Edit: Can't find the page concerning Annie ordering Rey to stay in the Court, must get more coffee..... Also, totally agree. The new order "Help me" overrides the old order "Stay in the Court". Yes, but Annie/Rey could still get in trouble for him leaving the Court; I don't understand why because Annie made the order, he wouldn't get in trouble, considering Annie was ordered to order him that by the Court. Those were the conditions of her getting to keep him. Annie's a student, though, not a staff member. I think that the adults at the Court will be concerned about this, if they ever find out. (And something on this scale - there's no way the adults can stay ignorant for long.) Also what he said. Some other relevant pages concerning Rey's ownership (although the one you already posted is obviously the best): www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=161www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=281www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=848www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1155 |
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Post by warrl on Oct 10, 2014 16:39:41 GMT
I didn't realise just how far away they are from the Court. I see no outline of the place in the horizon. Cruise ships typically travel at 20+ knots (nautical miles) per hour, but of course are a bit slower while in harbor areas and don't necessarily travel in a straight line getting in and out of such areas. Departure time was probably midday, before 3 PM. The dance is "tonight", and shows no sign of directly including dinner, so probably began at or after 7 PM. (I'm assuming the dance is the same day as departure. If I don't assume that, all bets are off.) Skipping over the math and a couple additional guesses... The ship is unlikely to be closer to its departure point than 50 nautical miles in a straight line. Or further than 220 nautical miles. As of the time the dance started (it apparently didn't last long). We don't know whether or not the side trip into the Zimmyverse causes the ship to stop moving in the real world. For us landlubbers, that's 57 to 253 miles, or 92 to 407 kilometers. (And Jack's drone, which is of a size and design comparable to real-world civilian drones with a top speed of about 30 MPH/48 KPH and a flight time of about 20 minutes, apparently made the journey in rather less than an hour. Really impressive. In fact, the maximum distance is fairly close to Mach 1 for 20 minutes.) That surprisingly large fleet of speedboats - assuming they are all speedboats - probably go about 60 MPH. My source for that does NOT say "nautical miles" so I'm assuming it isn't. Allowing for getting out of harbor, and assuming they know the intended route and schedule (or target location), catching up would take them anywhere from a bit over 1 hour (minimum distance, nonmoving ship) to 6.5 hours (maximum distance, moving ship). |
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Post by sapientcoffee on Oct 10, 2014 16:49:16 GMT
Wonder if that section of reality is just plainly gone for now, or if you'd end up in Zimmingham if you went in that hole. Either way, probably not a good idea to fall in. If various techno-babble sci-fi shows have taught me anything, that bit of reality is there, just out of phase/at right angles with us or it's the event horizon of ZimCity. All Renard & Robots Co need to do is reverse polarity! |
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Post by fish on Oct 10, 2014 18:24:10 GMT
At first I thought the water was rushing down the hole like a physically impossibla waterfall. Now I think it looks like somebody spooned out(?) a huge chunk of ocean-jelly. Either way, it's quite an impressive sight.
A hole in the sea... does anyone know of something similar in other stories? The only thing that comes to mind is Moses parting the Red Sea.
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Post by Daedalus on Oct 10, 2014 18:26:46 GMT
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Post by freeman on Oct 10, 2014 18:28:56 GMT
That first panel, if that was filmatized, it would necessarily need "Ace of Spades" on background.
But anyway, as Warll pointed out, we must assume the kids have been wandering for around 4-6 hours in Zimmingham with no notable sheningans. We must also assume that Kat has been busy modeling a new body for the ship for that time.
Where are the sheningans? I hereby wild spec that the Seraphs have retained their own consciousness despite transformation in appearance and are busy eradicating all the horrors that may lie in Zimmingham. Plus spec: Zimmy's mental health affects things in Zimmingam and also the other way, so killing monsters there has a positive effect on her psyche.
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Post by keef on Oct 10, 2014 18:40:30 GMT
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Post by bykerhill on Oct 10, 2014 19:11:18 GMT
I'm beginning to think Lindsey was sucked into Zimmy's World with the rest of them. Otherwise I think she would have contacted the Court by now, and would be meeting the arriving boats.
Nice ride, Renard. (Rowbot is bummed that they didn't choose him.)
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Post by hifranc on Oct 10, 2014 19:13:40 GMT
We don't know how far away they were when Renard made the announcement. Waves break up the surface and change the way things look. If they were far enough away for it to be either over, or close to, the horizon, it's very hard to interpret what you're seeing unless you know what to look for. At a distance it is especially hard to interpret things that are at sea level or below.
I suspect that, as Renard is a creature of the ether, he was sensing how the situation had changed the ether rather than using his eyes.
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Post by ctso74 on Oct 10, 2014 19:46:25 GMT
When was the last time we saw Lindsey? Been a while, kind of strange that she wouldn't have done something by now. I'm beginning to think Lindsey was sucked into Zimmy's World with the rest of them. Otherwise I think she would have contacted the Court by now, and would be meeting the arriving boats. Yikes! Let's hope she shows up in the next comic. I'd hate to think everyone(bots and students) would go through all this, only to discover Lindsey was atomized. Then again, we don't know what she'd look like in Zimmingham, or where she'd be. Held with Zimmy? Catatonic in a corner? The odd "surface" everything is on? |
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Post by fish on Oct 10, 2014 20:06:08 GMT
Alright, this is cool! I'm beginning to think Lindsey was sucked into Zimmy's World with the rest of them. Otherwise I think she would have contacted the Court by now, and would be meeting the arriving boats. I assumed Lindsey just didn't swim all the way with the ship -just at the beginning, as a "bon voyage" to the students- and that's why she's nowhere to be seen. Or maybe I just don't want to think about the possible outcomes of a giant merostomatazon in Zimmingham! |
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Post by bykerhill on Oct 10, 2014 20:12:58 GMT
I'm beginning to think Lindsey was sucked into Zimmy's World with the rest of them. Otherwise I think she would have contacted the Court by now, and would be meeting the arriving boats. I assumed Lindsey just didn't swim all the way with the ship -just at the beginning, as a "bon voyage" to the students- and that's why she's nowhere to be seen. Or maybe I just don't want to think about the possible outcomes of a giant merostomatazon in Zimmingham! It seems pretty clear that she's along for the whole trip; she invited the students to take a cruise WITH her after all, and the ship's description of her doing this yearly seems to imply that she accompanies the boat. Given that she's a water-dweller, it would be sort of strange for her not to go with them. |
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Post by goldenknots on Oct 10, 2014 20:47:45 GMT
At first I thought the water was rushing down the hole like a physically impossibla waterfall. Now I think it looks like somebody spooned out(?) a huge chunk of ocean-jelly. Either way, it's quite an impressive sight. A hole in the sea... does anyone know of something similar in other stories? The only thing that comes to mind is Moses parting the Red Sea. I've encountered it in either an OZ book, or a Narnia one, or maybe both. |
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Post by thecarvergirl on Oct 10, 2014 20:52:29 GMT
Good lord, how on earth can the robot cavalry even hope of getting them out of there? They could destroy those siphons, but who knows how that would effect reality/Zimmyland. It could very well end up splicing chunks of reality back into the real world. They could jump in, but that could either a) send them into a yawning abyss where the ocean once was, or b) warp them to Zimmyland, but who knows if they'd even remain intact, or if they'd be helpless to Zimmy's reality warping powers. I don't know, there's just so much that could go wrong, I don't even know how you could deal with something like Zimmy's abilities unless you were a god. Unless those inside can get to Zimmy I have no idea how they're going to get out.
If only Coyote were there to help. (Quite a frightening person to rely on for help, shows just how desperate the situation may be.)
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Oct 10, 2014 21:42:26 GMT
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Post by hifranc on Oct 10, 2014 22:04:48 GMT
[...] If only Coyote were there to help. (Quite a frightening person to rely on for help, shows just how desperate the situation may be.) To tell the truth I hoped/expected that he would be invited ever since the drone left the ship. After all, she is the Forest's medium. The one thing that counts against that idea is the fact that the ship's action could have a detrimental impact on Forest/Court relations. However, as it's the Court's robots that are part of the rescue mission, that should mitigate against that. |
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Post by The Anarch on Oct 10, 2014 22:15:25 GMT
AW YISS THE MOTHA FUCKIN CAVALRY Or...navalry? The badassest of the badasses on open water . . . The Coast Guard!woooooooooooooooooooooooo! |
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Post by todd on Oct 10, 2014 22:15:58 GMT
Then again, we don't know what she'd look like in Zimmingham, or where she'd be. Aren't we jumping to conclusions in assuming that she'd be transformed? The students still look like themselves, after all. It could be just non-organics like the robots that would be transformed. (In which case, a robot rescue party might not be such a good idea.) |
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Post by thedoctor on Oct 10, 2014 22:18:27 GMT
That first panel, if that was filmatized, it would necessarily need "Ace of Spades" on background. But anyway, as Warll pointed out, we must assume the kids have been wandering for around 4-6 hours in Zimmingham with no notable sheningans. We must also assume that Kat has been busy modeling a new body for the ship for that time. With all the things we're warping here, time is going to be the least of our worries. It's entirely possible that a HUGE amount of time, or none at all, has passed between Annie's message and now in Zimmingham When was the last time we saw Lindsey? Been a while, kind of strange that she wouldn't have done something by now. Wonder what would happen if one or two of the links/siphons/whatever were to be destroyed, before being deactivated..I'm thinking she's in Zimminghell with the others.  AW YISS THE MOTHA FUCKIN CAVALRY The Robohirrim! Arise, arise, Robots of the Angel! Torn seas appear, terrible danger! seraphs are roaming, seeking true flesh; Go save your goddess, Search for your souls! Forth Robohirrim! |
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Post by todd on Oct 10, 2014 22:20:25 GMT
Good lord, how on earth can the robot cavalry even hope of getting them out of there? They could destroy those siphons, but who knows how that would effect reality/Zimmyland. It could very well end up splicing chunks of reality back into the real world. They could jump in, but that could either a) send them into a yawning abyss where the ocean once was, or b) warp them to Zimmyland, but who knows if they'd even remain intact, or if they'd be helpless to Zimmy's reality warping powers. I don't know, there's just so much that could go wrong, I don't even know how you could deal with something like Zimmy's abilities unless you were a god. Unless those inside can get to Zimmy I have no idea how they're going to get out. If only Coyote were there to help. (Quite a frightening person to rely on for help, shows just how desperate the situation may be.) I have the feeling that Coyote's assistance would come at a price - a nasty price to be revealed several chapters down the road. But I certainly agree that Reynardine and the robot rescue party will need to handle this situation carefully. A lot of this mess is thanks to the ship and the Seraphs meddling with Zimmy's abilities without (presumably) properly understanding them. All the more reason for Rey and the robots with him not to make more careless mistakes. For all we know, destroying the siphons could cause Zimmy's world to expand out of control until it envelopes the entire world, trapping everyone in its horrors forever. Either that or it might cause it to rain a lot. |
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Post by todd on Oct 10, 2014 22:40:35 GMT
And looking again at the size of that chasm in the sea - clearly that mad experiment endangered more than just a boatload of students.
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Post by thedoctor on Oct 11, 2014 16:26:06 GMT
And looking again at the size of that chasm in the sea - clearly that mad experiment endangered more than just a boatload of students. Think of all the poor fish and crustaceans! It looks like some sort of weird gravity well. |
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