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Post by aaroncampbell on Aug 20, 2014 19:06:01 GMT
That last panel immediately made me think of this, which was very happy-making! Kat's even got the orange-shirted guy's dance moves down! Check out the 2:48 mark; even Zimmy even makes an appearance! (Yes I know that's Lucy, but a grumpy dark-haired girl, scowling at people instead of dancing? It kinda works!)
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Post by keef on Aug 20, 2014 22:43:27 GMT
Beautiful art, look at the golden glow around the dancers, especially around Kat. A bit eerie. No! This is absolutely horrible. Everyone is having fun instead of there being magic battles. What is wrong with these kids??? Just wait for it.. And yes, kids, still no adult in sight. Anyway there is a stage with a mike, but no band?
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Post by todd on Aug 20, 2014 22:44:00 GMT
I'm just going to point out that Annie seems to be quite happy with what she sees from there and get that out of the way for you guys. As one who's never felt any need for Annie to have a love interest (and who still feels a bit disappointed over the revelation of that crush on Kamlen), I've no problem with her sitting the dance out (literally)
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Post by todd on Aug 20, 2014 22:45:50 GMT
That last panel immediately made me think of this, which was very happy-making! It might not be a coincidence; Tom mentioned once being fond of "Peanuts" (and even included Woodstock in a picture of Kat surrounded by birds).
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Post by Pig_catapult on Aug 20, 2014 22:47:41 GMT
Kat looks so very suave. :3
I am also totally cool with Annie just enjoying the atmosphere instead of dancing with someone.
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Post by fwip on Aug 20, 2014 22:54:48 GMT
'Interpretive' is my guess. She can't dance right now; she's busy generating funky music so everyone else can. She's doing traditional burlesque parody; currently she's a person on a chair. That's not actually her, it's a deflatable decoy Antimony made from twigs, leaves and a garden hose. She's training for the musical chairs deathmatch; the definite grand finale of the evening. "After Carver apprehended the killer chair, the party could resume" Sorry, I'm really tired. Also here's another, slightly more serious, if weird theory; she's actually dancing in etherical form. Because no one tells Carver she can't break dance. You. I like you. I cant help but squee a little everytime Kat and Paz do something. You know a funny thing 'bout having a face as an avatar is that when people read your text they imagine it being said by and with that given face. And this phrase is just absolutely hilarious to be said with the face in your avatar. Exactly.
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 20, 2014 23:08:13 GMT
she's actually dancing in etherical form. I rather like that idea. She's burning up the dance floor, around them all. Makes me wonder, what music is she dancing to?
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Post by mariposa on Aug 21, 2014 0:23:33 GMT
Oddly enough, I find myself rooting for Jenny and Jack a little, as they begin to sound something like a middle-aged married couple. Maybe she can become a stabilizing force for him. (Not that she should be reduced to that alone, of course.) But perhaps I'm just a sucker for alliteration.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 21, 2014 2:39:46 GMT
Anyway there is a stage with a mike, but no band? Karaoke!
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Post by alpacalypse on Aug 21, 2014 5:02:46 GMT
I cant help but squee a little everytime Kat and Paz do something. You know a funny thing 'bout having a face as an avatar is that when people read your text they imagine it being said by and with that given face. And this phrase is just absolutely hilarious to be said with the face in your avatar. I picked that face for a reason
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Post by zimmyzims on Aug 21, 2014 6:13:51 GMT
You know a funny thing 'bout having a face as an avatar is that when people read your text they imagine it being said by and with that given face. And this phrase is just absolutely hilarious to be said with the face in your avatar. I picked that face for a reason I'm sure you did. And you made a great pick. I can't help laughing when I imagine you "squee a little".
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Post by zimmyzims on Aug 21, 2014 6:15:53 GMT
Beautiful art, look at the golden glow around the dancers, especially around Kat. A bit eerie. No! This is absolutely horrible. Everyone is having fun instead of there being magic battles. What is wrong with these kids??? Just wait for it.. And yes, kids, still no adult in sight. Anyway there is a stage with a mike, but no band? All that, I mean about each thing mentioned in quotes above, makes this scene seem a bit unreal. This is not really happening in gunnerverse, is it?
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Post by snuggly on Aug 21, 2014 6:39:49 GMT
I am so happy that they could possibly be doing my favorite dance, west coast swing. Traditionally the lead holds the follow's hand in the left hand and it is a slot dance that could be performed in those confined spaces. I especially like that it is almost as if Kat is leading her on a basic left hand pass (her position relative to the follows). Does Tom Siddel dance?
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Post by Ophel on Aug 21, 2014 9:06:19 GMT
Oddly enough, I find myself rooting for Jenny and Jack a little, as they begin to sound something like a middle-aged married couple. Maybe she can become a stabilizing force for him. (Not that she should be reduced to that alone, of course.) But perhaps I'm just a sucker for alliteration. Jack-and-Jen-ny sittinginatree, Kil-ling-of mon-stro-si-ties. I don't know why I felt this was appropriate. I don't think they will do stuff like this, but I like the idea. They would look cool doing it, I think. (Monstrosities not necessarily Zimmy)
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Post by requiemarc on Aug 21, 2014 10:31:43 GMT
Beautiful art, look at the golden glow around the dancers, especially around Kat. A bit eerie. Just wait for it.. And yes, kids, still no adult in sight. Anyway there is a stage with a mike, but no band? All that, I mean about each thing mentioned in quotes above, makes this scene seem a bit unreal. This is not really happening in gunnerverse, is it? I've been steadily getting that feeling myself. One could argue we're only one chapter off of a very emotional event for both us and the characters, but nonetheless this is all just so... normal. So happily, normally carefree. Which means clearly we must either be in the calm before the storm, or this chapter is a collective delusion we're all experiencing simultaneously that is reflecting our combined subconscious wishes for the comic (subject to heavy editing). Also, I agree with you, that art is gorgeous. I may be a guy, but culturally constructed notions of masculinity or no culturally constructed notions of masculinity I am seriously considering stealing the little frame you made for an avatar... ._. EDIT; Also, the second panel of Jack and Jenny is making me feel that perhaps their relationship is more sincere (at least on Jack's end) than I first assumed. Given his posture and how he reacts.
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Post by keef on Aug 21, 2014 10:53:25 GMT
I am seriously considering stealing the little frame you made for an avatar... ._.. That's what they're for. . Actually I had not really noticed the glow around Kat before I made that avatar.
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Post by zimmyzims on Aug 21, 2014 12:02:44 GMT
All that, I mean about each thing mentioned in quotes above, makes this scene seem a bit unreal. This is not really happening in gunnerverse, is it? I've been steadily getting that feeling myself. One could argue we're only one chapter off of a very emotional event for both us and the characters, but nonetheless this is all just so... normal. So happily, normally carefree. Which means clearly we must either be in the calm before the storm, or this chapter is a collective delusion we're all experiencing simultaneously that is reflecting our combined subconscious wishes for the comic (subject to heavy editing). Much more alarming than the normalcy, if you will, are the abnormal parts of this. It's not only that it's everybody gathering together and they're all dreamy and shining golden, although that's kind of strange already. How about the striking absence of any adult supervision in a cruise ship full of teenagers? We have not once seen the slightest glimpse of an adult. No teachers, no parents, not even janitors - well, the robots must do that part. This would not happen even in the Gunnerkrigg Court.
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Post by Per on Aug 21, 2014 12:32:29 GMT
Anyway there is a stage with a mike, but no band? The pink-haired girl is clearly playing an invisible guitar, and Becky is shaking invisible maracas. It's their power. Guy on the left... invisible jazz harpsichord!?
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Post by goldenknots on Aug 21, 2014 12:46:21 GMT
I am so happy that they could possibly be doing my favorite dance, west coast swing. Traditionally the lead holds the follow's hand in the left hand and it is a slot dance that could be performed in those confined spaces. I especially like that it is almost as if Kat is leading her on a basic left hand pass (her position relative to the follows). Does Tom Siddel dance? It could also be the Lindy hop, or any of a number of variations of jitterbug. They all have the leads in the leader's left and follower's right hands, at least in open position. I think of west coast swing as slow sexy Lindy, and Lindy as wild and vigorous west coast. I'm too disorganized to stick to just one, so I tend to dance a sort of "fusion" swing, with elements of several, Balboa, Lindy, WC, east coast, etc., depending on what works with the music. :)
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Post by aaroncampbell on Aug 21, 2014 12:50:55 GMT
Anyway there is a stage with a mike, but no band? It's a silly theory, but I've been rather hoping that this guy finally learned to play. Wouldn't that be nice? So many of the other robots were infatuated with Angel Kat, but this is one of the ones Annie stopped to spend a moment with. He may not be as funny as Montgomery or as memorable as our dearly departed " whistle"-ing guard, but still I felt his moment was poignant. I'd be proud to see him having worked hard because he met Annie, with the result that he now gets to be literally center-stage, making a time of joyousness for everyone. If Annie happened to look over and see him and give him a thumb's up and he dropped a weak note in embarrassment, that would be cute and awesome!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 15:51:17 GMT
I think you're jumping to the conclusion of "it must be a dream!" a bit too quickly, here. You might not have considered the timeframe of each panel: The last page leads directly into panel one, scared/angry Jack is still scared/angry, but Jenny guides him out of the dance hall (away from Zimmy) through panels two and three, while our girls look on. Panels four, five and six are the setup for panel seven, and here is where it gets much more fuzzy. If you believe that all of these panels are taking place in direct succession (meaning that the dance begins mere moments after Jack and Jenny leave), then I can see the concerns over its strangeness, BUT it makes much more sense from a narrative standpoint if there is an indeterminate period of time between panels four, five, six, and seven. Think of them like the sequential version of a montage, especially considering the lack of dialogue: Tom is telling us that 1. Annie and Kat aren't worrying about Jack, 2. they met up with Margo and the boys before the dance began (ergo, no one on stage and no one dancing yet; panel five doesn't make it impossible that a band and/or singer is on stage in panel seven), 3. Gamma is watching them all, like she was on the last page, and probably will be until something changes, and 4. after an indeterminate amount of time, everyone starts dancing and having the funs. The orange outlines of the dancers are at least somewhat reminiscent of the party in Tall Tales (with very different lighting, of course)... A stylistic choice, not necessarily proof that this scene isn't real. So, there's my rationale for saying that it is. EDIT: As for the lack of adults, I simply disagree. This is very much within my interpretation of the Court, especially due to the presence of a legion of sailor robots and Lindsey. They know their students are generally intelligent and mature, and someone is most definitely linked up to the robots to help them watch for trouble. If worst came to worst, and the entire ship began to sink, I'd bet my bottom dollar Lindsey would swoop in and save almost everyone (and that the robots are waterproof and have built-in flotation devices). The Court knows its stuff.
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Post by lordofpotatoes on Aug 21, 2014 15:57:11 GMT
What's Gammas deal? I've been trying to figure it out, she just gets creepier by the moment, why don't they go out and have fun? Won't Zimmy agree to it? Then why did she agree to the trip? Especially if it puts her in some sort of danger. Why is the camera focusing on her? How involved is Jack?
So much mystery here. The suspense is killing me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 16:04:30 GMT
I don't think it's anything so sinister or mysterious. Gamma has had precious little experience socializing with people other than Zimmy (and on rare occasions, Annie), let alone dancing with them. Zimmy is seasick, and probably wouldn't want to dance anyway, so it makes perfect sense for Gamma to simply watch the others.
It's quite possible that Annie, or someone else, might approach her, and ask her to dance. That's the real question here, for me. Would she be able to step away from Zimmy, even for a little bit? Would Zimmy be able to make do with Annie for a few minutes, to let Gamma have a little fun?
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Post by Elysium on Aug 21, 2014 18:02:10 GMT
I think you're jumping to the conclusion of "it must be a dream!" a bit too quickly, here. You might not have considered the timeframe of each panel: The last page leads directly into panel one, scared/angry Jack is still scared/angry, but Jenny guides him out of the dance hall (away from Zimmy) through panels two and three, while our girls look on. Panels four, five and six are the setup for panel seven, and here is where it gets much more fuzzy. If you believe that all of these panels are taking place in direct succession (meaning that the dance begins mere moments after Jack and Jenny leave), then I can see the concerns over its strangeness, BUT it makes much more sense from a narrative standpoint if there is an indeterminate period of time between panels four, five, six, and seven. Think of them like the sequential version of a montage, especially considering the lack of dialogue: Tom is telling us that 1. Annie and Kat aren't worrying about Jack, 2. they met up with Margo and the boys before the dance began (ergo, no one on stage and no one dancing yet; panel five doesn't make it impossible that a band and/or singer is on stage in panel seven), 3. Gamma is watching them all, like she was on the last page, and probably will be until something changes, and 4. after an indeterminate amount of time, everyone starts dancing and having the funs. The orange outlines of the dancers are at least somewhat reminiscent of the party in Tall Tales (with very different lighting, of course)... A stylistic choice, not necessarily proof that this scene isn't real. So, there's my rationale for saying that it is. EDIT: As for the lack of adults, I simply disagree. This is very much within my interpretation of the Court, especially due to the presence of a legion of sailor robots and Lindsey. They know their students are generally intelligent and mature, and someone is most definitely linked up to the robots to help them watch for trouble. If worst came to worst, and the entire ship began to sink, I'd bet my bottom dollar Lindsey would swoop in and save almost everyone (and that the robots are waterproof and have built-in flotation devices). The Court knows its stuff. Making sense ? IN MAH GKC DISCUSSION ? LUDICROUS ! Kind of reminds me the medium nomination, some people fired up wild speculations about how Coyote warped time, when it it was just a beat panel
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 18:15:29 GMT
Making sense ? IN MAH GKC DISCUSSION ? LUDICROUS ! Kind of reminds me the medium nomination, some people fired up wild speculations about how Coyote warped time, when it it was just a beat panel I am determined to become the Smits of the discussion board. Bow before my reasonable, boring interpretations!
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Post by Marnath on Aug 21, 2014 19:54:47 GMT
As one who's never felt any need for Annie to have a love interest (and who still feels a bit disappointed over the revelation of that crush on Kamlen), I've no problem with her sitting the dance out (literally) Having a crush doesn't have to mean anything in the long term. I had a few crushes in my day, and I still turned out aromantic. We may never know though since she's so awkward anyway it doesn't really matter.
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Post by keef on Aug 21, 2014 21:13:58 GMT
Tom is telling us that 1. Annie and Kat aren't worrying about Jack Kat no, not sure about Annie. I don't think it isn't real, (although if I remember correctly it is a page in a comic about an alternate universe ) I just predict doom on a regular base, so one day I will be right. You are right about Lindsey, she of course is a responsible adult. As todd pointed out, a number of these kids are children of teachers, so they are probably watched over. But this is a work of art, and Tom has shown that you ignore "insignificant details" at your peril. Chapter title+ Eyeless robots+ Eerie light+ Jack: It's not right, it's not right!+ No (human) adults in sight.+ Seasick Zimmie+ Teenagers having fun (which of course is a sin) =
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Post by todd on Aug 21, 2014 22:22:19 GMT
I think the "it's all a dream" theory cones from Zimmy and Gamma's presence in the story, and the numerous illusiona and hallucinations revolving around them (such as the "Annie" having an adventure in "Spring-Heeled Part Two" turning out to be Zimmy). People have learned not to take anything in a story involving that pair at face value any more.
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Post by fish on Aug 21, 2014 23:08:24 GMT
The thing is, Zimmy never took anybody to a place different from Zimmingham. It seems like her mind is stuck there. I don't think it's possible for her to create such a coherent illusion of an experience she never... well... experienced herself. So far, with every new Zimmy chapter we were introduced to a new aspect of her "powers". First the illusions/hallucinations, then her taking other people with her to Zimmingham, then the whitelegs and her taking on a differrent personality, and finally her divination. You could argue that creating this huge illusion of a ship cruise is, again, showcasing a new quality of her "powers" but I like to think this is all real and she's just gonna tear up the sea later on.
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Post by Per on Aug 21, 2014 23:11:39 GMT
The mixup in SH2 was clearly telegraphed.
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