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Post by The Anarch on Feb 19, 2014 15:33:48 GMT
Nah, that's Steadman (Who died kicking the dog, apparently, how appropriate). And he would have gotten away with it, too! |
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Post by quinkgirl on Feb 19, 2014 15:40:26 GMT
...How do you die kicking a dog?
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Post by The Anarch on Feb 19, 2014 16:43:04 GMT
...How do you die kicking a dog? The dog kicks back. |
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Post by spritznar on Feb 19, 2014 16:46:44 GMT
We don't know what format the book is in, but they might guess "Gunner", from the info they already have. I'm predicting that the dog will be a new reoccurring character. He'll wear sunglasses indoors, and challenge the establishment. He'll turn out to be Eglamore's long lost brother. Count on it. or he could be that talking dog from the powerpuff girls. As much as I want to hear all of Sir Young's final record, I want to hear Jeanne's final record, if they have it. Think of all the information and names that might get revealed. Or it could just be another emotional bender and I can feel all sad and stuffs :/ i think someone pointed out in a previous thread that they wouldn't have jeanne's, because they're the last moments before crossing into the ether and jeanne hasn't yet |
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Post by GK Sierra on Feb 19, 2014 17:18:17 GMT
...How do you die kicking a dog? The dog kicks back. The arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards woobie justice. |
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Post by exuberancium on Feb 19, 2014 17:40:38 GMT
I wonder if, while looking in the GUNNER part of the wheel, Kat will find someone named Gunnerkrigg or something similar and we'll find out who the court was named after.
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Post by Señor Goose on Feb 19, 2014 17:41:32 GMT
We don't know what format the book is in, but they might guess "Gunner", from the info they already have. I'm predicting that the dog will be a new reoccurring character. He'll wear sunglasses indoors, and challenge the establishment. He'll turn out to be Eglamore's long lost brother. Count on it.  I'm not sorry. |
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Post by alpacalypse on Feb 19, 2014 17:45:29 GMT
As much as I want to hear all of Sir Young's final record, I want to hear Jeanne's final record, if they have it. Think of all the information and names that might get revealed. Or it could just be another emotional bender and I can feel all sad and stuffs :/ i think someone pointed out in a previous thread that they wouldn't have jeanne's, because they're the last moments before crossing into the ether and jeanne hasn't yet That makes sense. I didn't realize what they were final records of/haven't been keeping up with the threads. I guess for me that brings up the question of the whole process of going to the ether when you are killed. When you die I guess you have some sort of transcendence, but when you are killed (especially as a being in tune with the ether like a psychopomp) how does your mind traverse the line of being alive to dead. I assume not everyone goes through something like the boy who died in a fire, but you are in one place, get killed then what? I know the psychopomps will guide you but when do they do this final records stuff, and how? Could not having your final records being taken give you a chance to stay as a ghost or something, like Mort? For that matter how does one become a ghost anyways? And if the psychopomps are the afterlife guides, but aren't staff of the RoTD, then who the heck really governs dying in this world? So many questions.... |
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Post by Lightice on Feb 19, 2014 18:26:32 GMT
...How do you die kicking a dog? The dog is standing on top of a staircase. You stumble, fall headfirst and die in the most embarrasing way imaginable. I pity the relatives of every person who dies in such a comical way that they can't help but giggle in the funeral... |
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Post by GK Sierra on Feb 19, 2014 19:39:33 GMT
I outlined Artyman's one appearance in the comic in red for those still confused.  |
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Post by sidhekin on Feb 19, 2014 20:00:30 GMT
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Post by atteSmythe on Feb 19, 2014 20:43:54 GMT
I'm conflicted. On the one hand, I want to say that there's a decent chance that the man that left the room is the Artilleryman, because that man is also wearing red, and it would be a good visual clue. However, knowing that the Artilleryman was at the founding of the court, and that the Great Secret was kept, I find that a little hard to believe. Instead, I'm drawn to the idea that the man in the grey hair that speaks in panel 4 of [654] is the Artilleryman. It could go either way, though. There's really no way to know if he is in that scene at all, or, if so, who he is. Edit: I do think it's likely that he's one of those two people, though. The three other named human representatives from the Court's founding were present in that scene. It makes sense to me that he would be there as well. |
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Post by Intelligence on Feb 19, 2014 20:51:30 GMT
Stop skipping through this stuff! Era of what?! What dog?! These things are important!  To paraphrase Freefall of the other day, "the sacrifices we made [were] for the greater good of our people," sounds very good until you're designated as one of the sacrifices.  But it's for the Greater Good! |
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Post by GK Sierra on Feb 19, 2014 20:52:22 GMT
Can't seem to pick him out of the crowd, unless he's the guy leaving which seems unlikely as soldiers generally are trained to leave political misgivings out of the equation when considering orders. Dunno why he's not there, maybe he's just a henchman of Sir Young's and thus doesn't get involved in champagne-and-crackers planning sessions. |
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Post by keef on Feb 19, 2014 22:24:07 GMT
Hmm. This reference might be a subtle way to remind readers of Jones. Which makes me think. Maybe it was already discussed here.. Could they possibly use Jones to confront Jeanne? There's a double layer of "protection" here, Jones is insensitive to all things etheric, and she cannot be cut. She's also a good martial artist. Combine that with Parley's skills and Coyote's tooth, as well as Annie's abilities and you've got the dream team assembled. ..all orchestrated by Coyote, of course. Nice theory, but wrong. Guys, guys! What if, just hypothetically, Steadman tripped metaphorically over Coyote or Renard or Ys? You mean he died of speculation? For some reason I always assumed the guy in the firs panel of this page was the artilleryman. Probably because he's kept in the shadows, just like any other information regarding him. . You are right, and it is interesting that the guy the Court was named after, refused to go along with Diego's plan. Yes, but I think he (his soul) is still down there. So no last words anyway. I will repeat that until proven wrong  . Edit:I started this reply a few hours ago, should have checked... Can't seem to pick him out of the crowd, unless he's the guy leaving which seems unlikely as soldiers generally are trained to leave political misgivings out of the equation when considering orders. Dunno why he's not there, maybe he's just a henchman of Sir Young's and thus doesn't get involved in champagne-and-crackers planning sessions. And he was more then a henchman, they named the place after him. (It was a long day, so sorry for spelling/grammar mistakes) |
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 20, 2014 0:25:15 GMT
I've been thinking. Before gunpowder, artillery meant any military equipment that was engineered. Atellier is Old French for Arrange. What if he constructed the Seed Bismuth? Thus, "arranging" the Court. Artilleryman could be a play on his name and his main role for the Court. My wild guess.
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Post by brightside on Feb 20, 2014 0:32:09 GMT
...How do you die kicking a dog? The "dog" is Ysengrin... |
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Post by quinkgirl on Feb 20, 2014 0:57:20 GMT
...How do you die kicking a dog? The "dog" is Ysengrin... ...Dear god. |
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Post by TBeholder on Feb 20, 2014 1:55:37 GMT
...How do you die kicking a dog? The "dog" is Ysengrin... That... would be on par with the death of Colin the Rogue King ("was found by his guards to have suffered a terminally fatal mountaineering accident in his living room"). |
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Post by The Anarch on Feb 20, 2014 1:58:37 GMT
That... would be on par with the death of Colin the Rogue King ("was found by his guards to have suffered a terminally fatal mountaineering accident in his living room"). He fell down an elevator shaft. Onto some bullets. I can only imagine that Ysengrin will meet his final fate in a bizarre gardening accident. |
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Post by fwip on Feb 20, 2014 4:45:51 GMT
I think that Steadman tripped over a dog in combat despite clearly being more proficient than his opponent, which is always frustrating. He strikes me as the badass type, especially as he got older. But that's just me. Because there was little evidence of outright war, I'm guessing that Steadman died away from the Court or the forest, although possibly still on court business.
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Post by thedoctor on Feb 20, 2014 5:10:17 GMT
I think that Steadman tripped over a dog in combat despite clearly being more proficient than his opponent, which is always frustrating. He strikes me as the badass type, especially as he got older. But that's just me. Because there was little evidence of outright war, I'm guessing that Steadman died away from the Court or the forest, although possibly still on court business. I'm of the opinion that he just tripped over a random dog walking down the street one day and broke his neck; it's more humiliating and humorous that way. Although, the way he says it feels like it was just part of a larger picture that caused his death. |
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Post by thedoctor on Feb 20, 2014 5:12:23 GMT
The artilleryman would actually (I think) be named Gunner; the court was originally "the court at Gunner's crag," corrupted/shifted to krigg, Gunnerkrigg court. This should be interesting to hear though, given that he was the one who objected to the scheme.
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Post by SilverbackRon on Feb 20, 2014 6:56:59 GMT
The artilleryman would actually (I think) be named Gunner; the court was originally "the court at Gunner's crag," corrupted/shifted to krigg, Gunnerkrigg court. This should be interesting to hear though, given that he was the one who objected to the scheme. Perhaps the location was already named after him, the Gunner's Crag. Then Coyote divided the land and since the Seed Bismuth had already been planted there and the court had grown up around it, the name stuck. Even if he later had objections to one of their nastier plans ("Why do this sacrifice thing when I can protect us with my fine Artillery?") the place already had his name. They didn't name it after him after killing Jeanne (or more specifically the green boyfriend), it was already called that. |
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Post by Señor Goose on Feb 20, 2014 7:31:02 GMT
He fell down an elevator shaft. Onto some bullets. Fuck me sideways. |
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Post by dliessmgg on Feb 20, 2014 7:33:36 GMT
Guys, guys! What if, just hypothetically, Steadman tripped metaphorically over Coyote or Renard or Ys? You mean he died of speculation? In that he thought they're stupid animals and he could easily outsmart them, but then fell into their trap. Especially possible with Coyote. |
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Post by thedoctor on Feb 20, 2014 9:49:08 GMT
The artilleryman would actually (I think) be named Gunner; the court was originally "the court at Gunner's crag," corrupted/shifted to krigg, Gunnerkrigg court. This should be interesting to hear though, given that he was the one who objected to the scheme. Perhaps the location was already named after him, the Gunner's Crag. Then Coyote divided the land and since the Seed Bismuth had already been planted there and the court had grown up around it, the name stuck. Even if he later had objections to one of their nastier plans ("Why do this sacrifice thing when I can protect us with my fine Artillery?") the place already had his name. They didn't name it after him after killing Jeanne (or more specifically the green boyfriend), it was already called that. This is in line with what I was trying to say; my wording might not have been clear. I use "corrupted" or "shifted" in the linguistic sense, of change in a language over time. My interest in his dying words are separate from that fact. |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Feb 20, 2014 10:50:03 GMT
I outlined Artyman's one appearance in the comic in red for those still confused. [explanatory picture] Oooo, fancy! He's so...Red Coat. How long ago exactly did they say the court was founded? |
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Post by noone3 on Feb 20, 2014 14:36:56 GMT
...How do you die kicking a dog? The dog is standing on top of a staircase. You stumble, fall headfirst and die in the most embarrasing way imaginable. I pity the relatives of every person who dies in such a comical way that they can't help but giggle in the funeral... Oh... You have no idea. 86,000 people ends up in hospital because of this every year (probably in the US alone). |
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Post by philman on Feb 20, 2014 18:26:11 GMT
I outlined Artyman's one appearance in the comic in red for those still confused. [explanatory picture] Oooo, fancy! He's so...Red Coat. How long ago exactly did they say the court was founded? Not sure they did, but judging by the styles of clothing I would guess 18th/19th Centuries. I don't know much about fashion though. And thanks for the useful highlights on the Word of Tom, thanks Keef for summarising them all there! I know a lot more than I did previously now. Interesting, The Artilleryman could be called Gunner, is is a common name in the UK, although a bit of a coincidence in his name and job being the same, Tom hasn't used that as a naming convention before as far as I know. |
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