panther
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Post by panther on Aug 30, 2013 22:13:02 GMT
Does anyone else think the markings above that spider's eyes make it look like it has Smitty's eyebrows?
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Post by agentletrush on Aug 30, 2013 23:02:15 GMT
Considering that Annie knows how to use an opponent's weight against them, and can manipulate the physical world using the ether, it'd be interesting to see what'd happen if another one leaps at her without Ysengrin interfering.
It could also work out terribly.
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Post by mudmaniac on Aug 31, 2013 0:24:45 GMT
I'm hoping she sets fire to them with her mind.
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Post by GK Sierra on Aug 31, 2013 1:26:43 GMT
I'm hoping she sets fire to them with her mind. I'm hoping she sets SOMEBODY on fire. You can't have a comic about a fire elemental and NOT have anybody on fire. That's false advertising, innit?
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Post by The Anarch on Aug 31, 2013 5:44:01 GMT
Ease, surely. Or maybe Iz?
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Post by GK Sierra on Aug 31, 2013 6:54:37 GMT
Ease, surely. Or maybe Iz? Or maybe just "the -grin dude".
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Rafael
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Post by Rafael on Sept 1, 2013 1:49:55 GMT
Does anyone else think the markings above that spider's eyes make it look like it has Smitty's eyebrows? You made this page so much better!
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 1, 2013 4:15:17 GMT
Does anyone else think the markings above that spider's eyes make it look like it has Smitty's eyebrows? Eyebrows, yes, but Smitty's eyebrows are more brick-like. And anti-gravitic.
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Post by Daedalus on Sept 1, 2013 5:46:29 GMT
The art style is bothersome somehow on this page (though I cannot put my finger on quite why), but I do love this page because Ysengrin is acting like a total badass, something we haven't really seen before, but it fits with his characterization perfectly. Each page, Tom, amazes me more
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Post by thedoomblahsong on Sept 2, 2013 1:14:51 GMT
With all this talk of Annie sautéing monsters, I remembered last chapter when we saw the flashback of Rey-Danny talking to Surma, and she runs away. That makes sense because Danny was supposed to be very powerful. But then, when the Donlans, Eglamore and Sivo team up to take Rey down, Surma is absent: 1215
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Post by aaroncampbell on Sept 2, 2013 2:55:25 GMT
Considering that Annie knows how to use an opponent's weight against them, and can manipulate the physical world using the ether, it'd be interesting to see what'd happen if another one leaps at her without Ysengrin interfering. It could also work out terribly. You make a very good point. Given Annie's current choice of dress, I could see her using the martial arts training she received from her father in this scenario. Arguably she's already using a bit of what she would have been taught in any martial art -- maintaining calm in a threatening scenario. I know that seeing a spider that large would not only kick off the fight/flight/freeze response in me, but may actually kill me outright with mortal terror. The only thought going through my mind would be the repeated mantra KILL IT WITH FIRE!! which, in Annie's case, is quite an easily produced solution. But Annie she hasn't screamed or lashed out with flame yet, which is pretty impressive. Yes, she is struggling a bit with her posture and is certainly projecting her fear, but she's probably able to speak coherent sentences, which is far better than I could do. All that being said, I really would enjoy seeing her communicate in the language of the forest -- commanding dominance -- through some of the martial arts moves she was taught! It would be awesome to watch, an appropriate response in the environment, and it would help to identify the specifics of her training (something that's bugged a number of us.)
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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 2, 2013 8:01:55 GMT
Considering that Annie knows how to use an opponent's weight against them, and can manipulate the physical world using the ether, it'd be interesting to see what'd happen if another one leaps at her without Ysengrin interfering. It could also work out terribly. I could see her using the martial arts training she received from her father in this scenario. Tony trained her? When was this mentioned? I must have missed it.
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Post by Per on Sept 2, 2013 8:22:13 GMT
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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 2, 2013 15:45:51 GMT
Wow, all this time I thought that was a flashback to a younger Surma for some reason.
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Post by warrl on Sept 2, 2013 16:10:06 GMT
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Post by crater on Sept 2, 2013 16:28:07 GMT
please Tom, give us the fire shot.
I'll forgive you for not giving us the jones fighting a t-rex pic, just let us see Antimony make a good attempt at lighting someone on fire please
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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 2, 2013 21:14:51 GMT
please Tom, give us the fire shot. I'll forgive you for not giving us the jones fighting a t-rex pic, just let us see Antimony make a good attempt at lighting someone on fire please Tom, If you do this I will start a kickstarter to purchase and ship to you a refrigerated crate full of Cadbury Eggs. I swear to gawd.
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Post by The Anarch on Sept 4, 2013 2:49:04 GMT
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Post by zimmyzims on Sept 4, 2013 7:10:45 GMT
This is what you get if you maltreat your army. Come on, what did he expect when he left them in ruins and then comes back after decades, even centuries? A happy reconnection with a bunch of loyal fellows? Maybe he should have expected a crew of hungry and angry monsters, no? Sorry, how do you get the large time lapse? For all we know, he just hasn't visited in a year or two. Am I missing something? 1. a year or two would actually be a pretty long time not to show up at your army. A few months would be enough to turn them into a disordered bunch of savages. 2. From the fact that they rest in the ruins of the destroyed human buildings, I get the idea that he has left them there after the war against the Court, which was some centuries ago.
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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 4, 2013 7:28:28 GMT
Sorry, how do you get the large time lapse? For all we know, he just hasn't visited in a year or two. Am I missing something? 1. a year or two would actually be a pretty long time not to show up at your army. A few months would be enough to turn them into a disordered bunch of savages. 2. From the fact that they rest in the ruins of the destroyed human buildings, I get the idea that he has left them there after the war against the Court, which was some centuries ago. Spot on. An army on the march can strip an area bare of any kind of food overnight because an army is generally a much tighter density of living beings than occurs in nature. If they've been waiting here since the original spat with the Court they would have had to expend even more lives to create a new home for themselves. Thousands of people going camping for years at a time together is incredibly stressful on the body, which is why before the invention of mechanized warfare, lots of people died just from the daily crap storm of having to scratch bearable living conditions out of a place that is least designed for it. In fact, the farther back you go, the more people died from disease and hardship rather than combat until you reach the Crusades, where two thirds of your army would die of dysentery before even getting to the battle zone. If Yiss really left them on their own for that long they have every right to be chuffed with him.
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Post by Eversist on Sept 9, 2013 18:23:27 GMT
I just found it strange that he was saying "decades, even centuries," even thought we have no idea. Maybe the buildings have been in disrepair for some time, and he just hasn't visited in a couple of years.
Although what you guys are saying makes sense. I just don't know that Ys would have neglected them for so long, and then expected Annie to take over after decades/centuries, since he hasn't been visiting regularly.
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Post by thedoctor on Sept 30, 2013 14:17:40 GMT
Someone asked a while back just what she is trained in. I'd be quite willing to bet that it's Judo The first move is a little bit difficult to analyze, given the relative simplicity of the artwork; actually it looks like a sloppy trip-throw. The second move is a very standard basic armbar that you learn in first-semester judo class; she didn't quite finish it, but it ends with the would-be attacker on the ground with their arm twisted up behind their back until they surrender. The most obvious thing to me is in the flashback where her dad is training her. Because Judo moves very often involve grabbing a person's clothing (usually lapels or sleeves), the Judo gi (uniform) has a very distinctive doubled-over hem, in order to sustain the extra weight; a Karate or Tae Kwan Do uniform will tear pretty quickly in the same situations. The gis that Annie and her Dad are wearing have this feature; you'll notice she is actually examining the hem of her father's gi! Thus, I would say Judo.
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 30, 2013 15:19:22 GMT
Well, you know... New theory. Tom knows EVERYTHING.
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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 30, 2013 17:13:25 GMT
Well, you know... New theory. Tom knows EVERYTHING. ...he knows everything, except what he was thinking when he created Hetty. That space is just a mire, a soup of Cadbury eggs and bourbon, and little crumpled up notes strewn about his desk with messages like: "What are you doing" "Why?" "How does this character relate to the comic?" "Milk, eggs, cheese, mint toothpicks, bourbon, Cadbury eggs, sandwich bread, pastrami..." "What is the point of Hetty?" "Oh god, why is she a shrimp spirit" "HELP I AM TRAPPED IN THIS BODY" "AAAAAAAAAAUUUUGHHH"
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Post by quinkgirl on Oct 1, 2013 0:01:59 GMT
Wellll... Hetty does show how Reynard wouldn't kill Annie, right? I mean, I think we already knew that, but it proves it.
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Post by Daedalus on Oct 2, 2013 5:45:35 GMT
Wellll... Hetty does show how Reynard wouldn't kill Annie, right? I mean, I think we already knew that, but it proves it. Despite that Hetty has an agency, she does not have a coherence with the rest of the story, if you see the point I'm trying to make. She makes no sense as a character: somehow she knows Rey and his situation, but he's chilly to her, but still isn't close enough to see the full extent of her psychopathy. Furthermore, she dies almost immediately after she is introduced, so even if Tom has a good back story in his head for their previous interactions, I cannot see how it could ever become relevant to the main story. Maybe one of the side comics, like AitF? Finally, her powers appear to be exactly the same as Rey's, but where did she get them from? Coyote could not have given them away again: Word of Tom has confirmed that Coyote's 'giving away' with respect to powers is rather literal, so that he cannot gift it twice. (Regifting of powers? Christmas must be fun in Gillitie with Coyote around. Now I'm imagining him in a santa hat, running around giving dangerous troll gifts. Someone needs to fanart this.) Also, why, oh why, is she a shrimp? She cannot have that form just to show Rey likes seafood.
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