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Post by CoyoteReborn on Oct 2, 2013 0:01:27 GMT
Favorite character? Myself, of course. Anyone who says otherwise is obviously wrong. Nobody can even pretend to rival the infinite power and majesty of the Coyote. My favorite minions, on the other hand, would be Renard and Abalone. Both so entertaining and easy to manipulate! |
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Post by quinkgirl on Oct 2, 2013 0:54:08 GMT
Favorite character? Myself, of course. Anyone who says otherwise is obviously wrong. Nobody can even pretend to rival the infinite power and majesty of the Coyote. My favorite minions, on the other hand, would be Renard and Abalone. Both so entertaining and easy to manipulate! You're role playing as Coyote...? Oh, well, that explains some things. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Oct 2, 2013 1:44:24 GMT
Favorite character? Myself, of course. Anyone who says otherwise is obviously wrong. Nobody can even pretend to rival the infinite power and majesty of the Coyote. My favorite minions, on the other hand, would be Renard and Abalone. Both so entertaining and easy to manipulate! You're role playing as Coyote...? Oh, well, that explains some things. Makes me wish Mitth'raw'nuruodo were still around. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Oct 2, 2013 2:41:48 GMT
You're role playing as Coyote...? Oh, well, that explains some things. Makes me wish Mitth'raw'nuruodo were still around. ...excuse me? |
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Post by GK Sierra on Oct 2, 2013 4:13:40 GMT
Makes me wish Mitth'raw'nuruodo were still around. ...excuse me? Another colorful character who took himself literally. They pop up now and again. I approve. Adds flavor. Like a sandwich spread. |
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Post by Daedalus on Oct 2, 2013 5:51:49 GMT
^Epic simile alert.
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Post by GK Sierra on Oct 2, 2013 6:23:45 GMT
The finely diced olives represent creative thinking. The mayo is indulgence, and the pinch of garlic... a break from traditional norms. I haven't figured out the pimentos yet, I'll get back to you on that. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Oct 2, 2013 14:30:27 GMT
The finely diced olives represent creative thinking. The mayo is indulgence, and the pinch of garlic... a break from traditional norms. I haven't figured out the pimentos yet, I'll get back to you on that. *snicker* I love sandwiches. |
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Post by Per on Oct 4, 2013 13:24:21 GMT
Interesting question. My guess is that there is some sort of transformation that would be required even if something is an etheric creature and in the ether but that's because my understanding of Gunneverse physics is based on classical notions of ether. I don't see any reason why an etheric creature is less real than a material creature in the Gunnerverse though if being in the ether is some sort of superposition then no journey of distance would be required and any such journey would be illusory. Perhaps creatures like Coyote and/or the wisp, being creatures of the ether, are mere propagations in the medium, like a wave is seen to exist in water but doesn't consist of anything but water in motion (the wisp is an eddy or standing wave, Coyote is the Great Red Spot). When they "die", the perturbation disappears but not the water; there's nothing to convert. Meanwhile a creature like Annie, a being in the ether, is more akin to a keg of rum: it can be seen bobbing in the water and interacting with the waves, but also retains its identity when removed from the water. Psychopomps are needed to "waterify" non-etheric creatures upon death, except if they're part elementals or there's shenanigans. /arbitrary speculation in the wrong thread |
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Post by GK Sierra on Oct 4, 2013 17:51:52 GMT
Interesting question. My guess is that there is some sort of transformation that would be required even if something is an etheric creature and in the ether but that's because my understanding of Gunneverse physics is based on classical notions of ether. I don't see any reason why an etheric creature is less real than a material creature in the Gunnerverse though if being in the ether is some sort of superposition then no journey of distance would be required and any such journey would be illusory. Perhaps creatures like Coyote and/or the wisp, being creatures of the ether, are mere propagations in the medium, like a wave is seen to exist in water but doesn't consist of anything but water in motion (the wisp is an eddy or standing wave, Coyote is the Great Red Spot). When they "die", the perturbation disappears but not the water; there's nothing to convert. Meanwhile a creature like Annie, a being in the ether, is more akin to a keg of rum: it can be seen bobbing in the water and interacting with the waves, but also retains its identity when removed from the water. Psychopomps are needed to "waterify" non-etheric creatures upon death, except if they're part elementals or there's shenanigans. /arbitrary speculation in the wrong thread Actually that makes sense. To confirm this we will need to set up the somewhat less famous "double Annie experiment" to determine if her ether ripples function according to Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle; I.E., acting as a particle when directly observed, and a wave at all other times. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 4, 2013 19:28:09 GMT
Perhaps creatures like Coyote and/or the wisp, being creatures of the ether, are mere propagations in the medium, like a wave is seen to exist in water but doesn't consist of anything but water in motion (the wisp is an eddy or standing wave, Coyote is the Great Red Spot). When they "die", the perturbation disappears but not the water; there's nothing to convert. Meanwhile a creature like Annie, a being in the ether, is more akin to a keg of rum: it can be seen bobbing in the water and interacting with the waves, but also retains its identity when removed from the water. Psychopomps are needed to "waterify" non-etheric creatures upon death, except if they're part elementals or there's shenanigans. /arbitrary speculation in the wrong thread Actually that makes sense. To confirm this we will need to set up the somewhat less famous "double Annie experiment" to determine if her ether ripples function according to Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle; I.E., acting as a particle when directly observed, and a wave at all other times. That dovetails well with one of my pet theories about what the function of etheric beings is in the ether but unless the "stories" are somehow selfcontained unit(s) that survive the dissolution of the entity then some other agency would be required else they would also dissolve. It could be just an unconscious gathering-in action of the ether itself but I'll still count that as a transformation. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Oct 4, 2013 19:37:32 GMT
It would get a little funky when you get to the whole "stories=power" thing. You'd have to think of a mechanism that could make the chemical and electrical reactions maintaining consciousness to transfer as a meaningful, useable imprint on this hypothetical field. It would have to have some pretty crazy properties. But then again, I guess that's the whole point of ether in this story, as Applied Phlebotinum. |
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Post by Per on Oct 5, 2013 19:50:41 GMT
I would regard the stories and beliefs as having become parts, properties or characteristics of human souls during their life, or coloured the souls in characteristic ways. When the souls are dissolved, they change the composition of the etheric medium, and by extension, the transient forms the medium can sustain.
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Post by zimmyzims on Oct 8, 2013 8:01:33 GMT
So, wait, am I the only person who likes Tony? He and Renard are my favourites. Anthony Carver? My favourite character!   Here you are! |
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Post by zimmyzims on Oct 8, 2013 8:04:20 GMT
I know that that is pretty bad., but I find him a tragic character, it is pretty obvious that it is not what he intends. And I'm not half sure he tried to kill his daughter, something a bit awful he was doing, but we don't know yet what. Anyway, he has played some role in the court-forest quarrel, since Coyote and Ys all too well knew to dislike him in particular, and I suspect he is on some secret mission right now, too, either that of court or of his own. There is much to still learn about him. I see him mostly as a man of principle who has lead a sadly tragic life. Of course, he may also be just the hugest jerk in the world, which is what he let's himself seem like to others, but I doubt it. I assume he's just ignorant of Annie because her mother had to die to give birth to her. I think he probably doesn't especially dislike her, he just doesn't want to be near her because it reminds him of what he's lost. He probably isn't that bad, I'd like to know more about him. He's interesting, but I don't think he'll ever be one of my favorites. I don't really think he is ignorant of Annie. In every occasion he has shown keen interest, instead, and there's too much pain there for it to be ignorance. He hurts, and I mean he is hurting, as in he himself hurts, you know... ugh, how do you say this in English so that it doesn't remain ambiguous... |
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Post by quinkgirl on Oct 26, 2013 14:36:17 GMT
I assume he's just ignorant of Annie because her mother had to die to give birth to her. I think he probably doesn't especially dislike her, he just doesn't want to be near her because it reminds him of what he's lost. He probably isn't that bad, I'd like to know more about him. He's interesting, but I don't think he'll ever be one of my favorites. I don't really think he is ignorant of Annie. In every occasion he has shown keen interest, instead, and there's too much pain there for it to be ignorance. He hurts, and I mean he is hurting, as in he himself hurts, you know... ugh, how do you say this in English so that it doesn't remain ambiguous... Good point... you think he'll make an appearance in front of Annie eventually? |
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Post by Omnium on Oct 26, 2013 20:12:01 GMT
I don't really think he is ignorant of Annie. In every occasion he has shown keen interest, instead, and there's too much pain there for it to be ignorance. He hurts, and I mean he is hurting, as in he himself hurts, you know... ugh, how do you say this in English so that it doesn't remain ambiguous... Good point... you think he'll make an appearance in front of Annie eventually? We know he will. At the end of Annie's first year it's stated that she wouldn't see him for 'over two more years'. So we're seeing him during the summer between year 9 and 10 at the earliest. Probably later, since it's about damn time she actually goes on holiday with the Donlans this year. I suspect we'll be left more confused about him than ever. For the record, my favourite character is Kat. I only discovered the comic yesterday (via retweet from Jeph Jacques), the comic was adorablely awkward and archive binging just made me like the character even more as I got to discover more about her. Phenomenally written comic all around. |
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Post by Per on Oct 26, 2013 20:18:39 GMT
That refers to hearing from him... which already happened. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Oct 26, 2013 20:19:40 GMT
Good point... you think he'll make an appearance in front of Annie eventually? We know he will. At the end of Annie's first year it's stated that she wouldn't see him for 'over two more years'. So we're seeing him during the summer between year 9 and 10 at the earliest. Probably later, since it's about damn time she actually goes on holiday with the Donlans this year. I suspect we'll be left more confused about him than ever. For the record, my favourite character is Kat. I only discovered the comic yesterday (via retweet from Jeph Jacques), the comic was adorablely awkward and archive binging just made me like the character even more as I got to discover more about her. Phenomenally written comic all around. I have a bad memory in general, so it's no surprise to me that I don't remember that  Thanks for the link. Also, if you've just started reading, browse this forum at your own risk. There will be a lot of spoilers  |
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Post by Omnium on Oct 26, 2013 20:36:45 GMT
That refers to hearing from him... which already happened. ...That's an excellent point. I should have read it more carefully before posting, thanks for correcting me  . I had actually discounted the microsat-5 message as being what Annie was referring to there. Partially because it hadn't been over two comic years yet, but also because the message wasn't understandable to, referring to or intended for her. We know he will. At the end of Annie's first year it's stated that she wouldn't see him for 'over two more years'. So we're seeing him during the summer between year 9 and 10 at the earliest. Probably later, since it's about damn time she actually goes on holiday with the Donlans this year. I suspect we'll be left more confused about him than ever. For the record, my favourite character is Kat. I only discovered the comic yesterday (via retweet from Jeph Jacques), the comic was adorablely awkward and archive binging just made me like the character even more as I got to discover more about her. Phenomenally written comic all around. I have a bad memory in general, so it's no surprise to me that I don't remember that Thanks for the link. Also, if you've just started reading, browse this forum at your own risk. There will be a lot of spoilers Not a problem, seeing as I went on a good old fashioned archive binge. |
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Post by Gotolei on Oct 26, 2013 21:43:17 GMT
I'm going to go with Kat. Aside from how awesome it is to be able to build a parkour-capable robot out of "spare parts," I can kind of relate to the tinkering with random hardware and low-level computer mechanics. Though, I'm guessing if she tried to learn asm, it would probably go better for her than it did with me  |
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Post by zimmyzims on Oct 29, 2013 16:26:33 GMT
I don't really think he is ignorant of Annie. In every occasion he has shown keen interest, instead, and there's too much pain there for it to be ignorance. He hurts, and I mean he is hurting, as in he himself hurts, you know... ugh, how do you say this in English so that it doesn't remain ambiguous... Good point... you think he'll make an appearance in front of Annie eventually? He might. But you know, he might just be the sort of tragic character who ends up sacrificing everything, even seeing his daughter ever anymore, for some cause he considers worthy. That might be the cause of his daughter, actually. But if I would have to put money on this, I'd bet that at some point rather close to the end of the story, Annie will meet her father again and quite a few things will be clarified there. Not necessarily all by talking, like, "hey daddy, so what's it with all this..." "please sit down and let me tell you the whole story", not perhaps like that, but probably much through action and then some verbal explications that may remain half-obscure in themselves but are clarified by deeds and Annie will understand something. Now that I'm at it, I predict that Anthony will die before the story ends. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Oct 29, 2013 18:16:35 GMT
Aside from how awesome it is to be able to build a parkour-capable robot out of "spare parts," She's like Tony Stark's mild mannered little sister who is actually ten times better than him. Robot is nothing less than a miracle when you consider that the most advanced robots currently look like this: |
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Post by fwip on Dec 1, 2013 2:26:32 GMT
I'm a fan of the Renard/Coyote/Ysengrin set. I think we really don't know Anthony well enough to pass judgement on him.
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Post by quinkgirl on Dec 1, 2013 18:56:40 GMT
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Thanks for the link.
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