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Post by GK Sierra on Jul 11, 2013 15:14:18 GMT
I'm thinking people are just starting to look for things that aren't there for some reason. In my mind's eye I see the personification of the forum as a wizened addict, furiously scrapping through the shag carpet to find that last shard of plot.
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Post by philman on Jul 11, 2013 22:31:19 GMT
People also thought that Renard's forehead symbol had changed when it hadn't in the slightest. I'm thinking people are just starting to look for things that aren't there for some reason. Compare Rey's Mercury symbol and the Antimony symbol on the doll on page 54. Also compare the Antimony symbols on pages 80 and 214. The symbol Rey is now displaying is different. It looks very much like a combination of the two symbols. To be fair, the symbol does change, very slightly. But that happened two chapters ago with none of us noticing, and the change is so minor I personally put it down to just an artistic change rather than due to story. Do we put Annie's face shape changes since Ch1 down to story driven mutation or just artistic changes?
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Post by Mezzaphor on Jul 12, 2013 3:46:56 GMT
Do we put Annie's face shape changes since Ch1 down to story driven mutation or just artistic changes? To play Hetty's advocate, Annie is still growing up, and facial proportions change as one matures. I know it's probably not what Tom intended, but I like to imagine that the early art reflected Annie's self-image. Without her parents and away from her home for the first time in her life, she felt like some kind of freak, so she was drawn like one. As her friendship with Kat grew and Annie came to feel like less of an outsider, her depiction grew closer to normal.
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Post by americonedream on Jul 12, 2013 4:02:47 GMT
Hahaha, Hetty's advocate. I'm going go out out on a limb and see the change of Rey's (Annie's) symbol as a gradual change influenced by Annie herself and I have 3 theories for that. 1) Annie left Good Hope soon after Surma died, leaving Annie with mostly her mother's influence to go off on. As she gets older, experiences more, she changes and drifts into her own niche and personality. Eventually, the symbol will be merely an offshoot of how it originally is. It'll become Annie's own personal symbol, kind of like how Tom made Kat's up. Kat is growing up too but she's always sort of known what she loves to do and is naturally good at it so hers probably wouldn't change as much. 2) Annie's ownership of Rey is growing weaker and the symbol is getting smaller and smaller. Maybe because they're becoming closer a friends? 3) It's easier to draw a less fancy symbol. gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1165 Annie's symbol is even a bit different here too. Only one side of the..upper upside down mustache..thing is curved.
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Post by melkior on Jul 12, 2013 4:23:47 GMT
Compare Rey's Mercury symbol and the Antimony symbol on the doll on page 54. Also compare the Antimony symbols on pages 80 and 214. The symbol Rey is now displaying is different. It looks very much like a combination of the two symbols. To be fair, the symbol does change, very slightly. But that happened two chapters ago with none of us noticing, and the change is so minor I personally put it down to just an artistic change rather than due to story. Do we put Annie's face shape changes since Ch1 down to story driven mutation or just artistic changes? It's possible that it's just a different art style, but it may also be symbolic of Rey being allowed to decide some things for himself instead of always having to follow Annie's orders. In other words, the more Annie lets Rey be "himself", the more the symbol tends to mutate into a cross between Antimony and Mercury. Any time Annie asserts her command over Rey, the symbol goes back to being just Antimony. But maybe I'm simply grasping at straws. I expect that time will tell.
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Post by htown on Jul 12, 2013 5:04:36 GMT
Here's my wild idea: Annie's ownership to the doll is weakening as she grows up. Older girls and young women don't have dolls, so as Annie becomes more adult, her possession of a little girl's doll is weaker.
Wild speculation though! - I'm not even sure I'm 100% on it...
Theory#2 Now that I think about it- maybe this is Annie's conscious doing. we know she trusts him more (letting him stay out until "not too late") whereas she used to lock him in a box. So maybe her leniency is manifested in the symbol change. She may have started out as a quiet,rule-following little girl, but now she's more of a rebellious free spirit, so maybe because of this she has "loosened her grasp" on renard's contract, so to speak.
TL;DR: Annie is less overbearing so the symbol is less dominantly antimony
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Post by unrequited on Jul 12, 2013 5:15:36 GMT
I like Hetty, she's a peer that Reynard needed, somebody who knows what he's going through. Plus she's adorable, I mean look at those rosy cheeks and that impish smile. Then again, I was strangely sympathizing with Diego, so I might be abbey normal on this.
EDIT: Rey's Mercury symbol could be changing because it's mercurial?
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Post by GK Sierra on Jul 12, 2013 6:26:25 GMT
Do we put Annie's face shape changes since Ch1 down to story driven mutation or just artistic changes? To play Hetty's advocate, Annie is still growing up, and facial proportions change as one matures. I know it's probably not what Tom intended, but I like to imagine that the early art reflected Annie's self-image. Without her parents and away from her home for the first time in her life, she felt like some kind of freak, so she was drawn like one. As her friendship with Kat grew and Annie came to feel like less of an outsider, her depiction grew closer to normal. I like this explanation. I never really wanted Tom to go back and redraw the early ones anyway. They showcase an impressive amount of Artist Evolution.
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 12, 2013 13:30:53 GMT
Well, not a freak, but an angly and awkward early-teen, yes.
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Post by htown on Jul 12, 2013 15:51:34 GMT
... To play Hetty's advocate, ... ^ Brilliant
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Post by joker on Jul 12, 2013 17:12:25 GMT
Compare Rey's Mercury symbol and the Antimony symbol on the doll on page 54. Also compare the Antimony symbols on pages 80 and 214. The symbol Rey is now displaying is different. It looks very much like a combination of the two symbols. To be fair, the symbol does change, very slightly. But that happened two chapters ago with none of us noticing, and the change is so minor I personally put it down to just an artistic change rather than due to story. Do we put Annie's face shape changes since Ch1 down to story driven mutation or just artistic changes? You forgot this one page, where Renard has TWO marks on his forehead: gunnerkrigg.com/?p=832
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