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Post by snipertom on Jun 4, 2013 15:43:11 GMT
well, brinnie is apparently brynhildr, and apparently off to see Odin, so interdimensional rift is likely! Apparently what she does is this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valknut |
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Post by snipertom on Jun 4, 2013 15:46:43 GMT
BTW, with today/yesterday's additions we're up to 551/1205 = 46% ie almost halfway!
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 4, 2013 17:55:12 GMT
Character index page updated: 551/1205 pages indexed with 195 tags Are there: - more names I should add to the credits?
- Other useful sites for Gunnerkrigg discussion & analysis to link to
And the other good news is that I've finally spotted why I couldn't get snipergirl's selector to work for me - need a local jquery, rather than I'd broken something - so that should finally happen tonight after much hair-tearing yesterday evening.
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Post by philman on Jun 4, 2013 20:19:27 GMT
well, brinnie is apparently brynhildr, and apparently off to see Odin, so interdimensional rift is likely! Apparently what she does is this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ValknutOoh, never got that reference! Wasn't on the forums at the time. |
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 4, 2013 22:55:17 GMT
Character index page updated: 606/1205 pages indexed with 214 tags Now using snipergirl's cool selector .js Hip hip, 'rah!
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 4, 2013 23:20:43 GMT
Tagcloud - where to put it on the index page? Or would an occurrence count by each tag in the index column be as good, with the benefit of being more compact?
Reading from a url: cool. (I could do that with gun4.py couldn't I...)
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Post by taban on Jun 5, 2013 1:14:45 GMT
I just wanted to say that it's awesome y'all are doing this. :-)
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Post by philman on Jun 5, 2013 7:18:17 GMT
Just had a look at the latest page LouisXIV, the clickability function on the tags seems to have disappeared? I can no longer click on them to pull up a list of the tagged comics.
Also I did Ch25: Skywatcher and the Angel last night too before I went to bed.
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Post by snipertom on Jun 5, 2013 10:58:50 GMT
Just had a look at the latest page LouisXIV, the clickability function on the tags seems to have disappeared? I can no longer click on them to pull up a list of the tagged comics. Also I did Ch25: Skywatcher and the Angel last night too before I went to bed. Clicking's working for me- do you have javascript enabled? Alternately, there was an update where it wasn't working briefly, try refreshing? Reading your chap 20 and 25 tags brings a smile to my face :#) |
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 5, 2013 15:47:40 GMT
Philman - Tag selection is working for me right now on an iPad, on the commute home from work. Nothing has changed since I last posted. Check script blocking, if you are the cautious sort like me, and allow the page to load fully before clicking a tag?
Let us know whether you still see a problem.
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 5, 2013 18:39:22 GMT
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Post by snipertom on Jun 5, 2013 18:57:08 GMT
I've got a new demo for you guys! i've implemented a search feature, automatic scroll down to the first instance of the tag and a "scroll to top" button for when you are down in chapter 3 enjoying ye olde art. Check it out at snipergirl.com/gunnerkrigg  |
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Post by snipertom on Jun 5, 2013 19:16:12 GMT
Tagcloud - where to put it on the index page? Or would an occurrence count by each tag in the index column be as good, with the benefit of being more compact? Reading from a url: cool. (I could do that with gun4.py couldn't I...) It's looking really good! i also like the ui improvements you've made i'm ok at bashing something together but not so good at fine-tuning! I think read from url would work really well with a cron job! AS it is on my computer it's just like the normal one but slower hahaha. I reckon that an occurrence count by tag would be better than the tag cloud. Still not sure what to do with it, but had fun thinking about how to implement it even if it's not perfect- the formula for the sizes is basically 8*log10(occurences+1) |
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 5, 2013 21:26:22 GMT
Just sent Ch 40: The Stone. Difficult to tag in any detail, so I've been pretty conservative, not tagging any one or two page mayflies' existence. Took a guess at some dates, hopefully educated, or at least informed.
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 5, 2013 21:45:43 GMT
I've got a new demo for you guys! i've implemented a search feature, automatic scroll down to the first instance of the tag and a "scroll to top" button for when you are down in chapter 3 enjoying ye olde art. Check it out at snipergirl.com/gunnerkrigg :D Oh, now that scroll up is cool! I was just about to suggest you do something like that... Philosophical question: do we need tags if we have search? |
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 5, 2013 22:10:40 GMT
Tagcloud - where to put it on the index page? Or would an occurrence count by each tag in the index column be as good, with the benefit of being more compact? Reading from a url: cool. (I could do that with gun4.py couldn't I...) It's looking really good! i also like the ui improvements you've made :D i'm ok at bashing something together but not so good at fine-tuning! I think read from url would work really well with a cron job! AS it is on my computer it's just like the normal one but slower hahaha. I reckon that an occurrence count by tag would be better than the tag cloud. Still not sure what to do with it, but had fun thinking about how to implement it even if it's not perfect- the formula for the sizes is basically 8*log10(occurences+1) I may look at cron-ing the process just for the education. Certainly not for actual production: automating text to web with no pause for even Mk.1 eyeball sanitisation would be a "brave" decision. I will look at adding a tag occurence counter to gunN.py (gun3py.txt is on-line in the usual place btw). Simple enough with a parallel dict I'd have thought, but there may be better ways: cue for another trawl of the python examples. |
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 5, 2013 22:39:07 GMT
Updated 671/1206 pages indexed, 222 defined tags
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Post by snipertom on Jun 5, 2013 22:52:55 GMT
close! tagcloud.py is on the github repo if you wanna have a look - i used Counter in the end because it seemed to be purpose built for it!
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Post by snipertom on Jun 6, 2013 2:58:14 GMT
Finally done with chapter 14, treatise 2 and the guest comics/filler at the end of book one.
Whee... probably taking a break from coding for now, unless I come up with a really awesome new idea
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Post by GK Sierra on Jun 6, 2013 5:04:51 GMT
Wow. I have to say, I'm pretty surprised.
This is not far from "completion", although I'm sure there will be other things future people will pick up on subsequent reads.
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Post by snipertom on Jun 6, 2013 6:24:21 GMT
Wow. I have to say, I'm pretty surprised. This is not far from "completion", although I'm sure there will be other things future people will pick up on subsequent reads. Me too! Everyone has been super awesome and this is honestly one of the most enjoyable collaborative things I've ever worked on  Helps that it's (one of/the) best webcomic(s) of course  It's definitely going to have to have at least a 2nd and 3rd pass... and constant re-evaluation given how things that didn't seem important at the time crop up! eg Annie's jumper being left in the woods Hope you're enjoying having a play with it! |
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Post by spritznar on Jun 6, 2013 6:25:03 GMT
Wow. I have to say, I'm pretty surprised. This is not far from "completion", although I'm sure there will be other things future people will pick up on subsequent reads. Well, even after we get every page tagged once, we're going to have to go through again for tag consistancy. But I'm surprised how fast this is coming along also. Although I'm going on a trip this Saturday and may fall off the face of the internets (at the very least away from my desktop) til the following Thursday, so I've been trying to get a bunch done before then Edit: ^what she said |
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Post by snipertom on Jun 6, 2013 6:32:33 GMT
I just wanted to say that it's awesome y'all are doing this. :-) Dawww I hope it's useful and fun for you too! |
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Post by snipertom on Jun 6, 2013 6:40:36 GMT
Wow. I have to say, I'm pretty surprised. This is not far from "completion", although I'm sure there will be other things future people will pick up on subsequent reads. Well, even after we get every page tagged once, we're going to have to go through again for tag consistancy. But I'm surprised how fast this is coming along also. Although I'm going on a trip this Saturday and may fall off the face of the internets (at the very least away from my desktop) til the following Thursday, so I've been trying to get a bunch done before then Edit: ^what she said THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA /dies |
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Post by GK Sierra on Jun 6, 2013 7:13:30 GMT
Wow. I have to say, I'm pretty surprised. This is not far from "completion", although I'm sure there will be other things future people will pick up on subsequent reads. Me too! Everyone has been super awesome and this is honestly one of the most enjoyable collaborative things I've ever worked on Helps that it's (one of/the) best webcomic(s) of course It's definitely going to have to have at least a 2nd and 3rd pass... and constant re-evaluation given how things that didn't seem important at the time crop up! eg Annie's jumper being left in the woods Hope you're enjoying having a play with it! It's impressive because many other GC fan projects petered out long before they were done, exhibit A being the dead fan forum that lingers below discussion. This is already a very helpful quick reference and it isn't even done. |
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Post by spritznar on Jun 6, 2013 7:24:14 GMT
it's impressive because many other GC fan projects petered out long before they were done, exhibit A being the dead fan forum that lingers below. I think it really has to do with how straightforward a project is and how easily the labor is divided. This is pretty simple and we can all work fairly autonomously on the tagging itself. I remember when we were doing the tarot cards, the major arcana got done painlessly because they didn't have a theme but as soon as we started the minor arcana a debate broke out over which symbols/suits we should use and it promptly died for lack of coordination. |
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Post by philman on Jun 6, 2013 13:39:14 GMT
it's impressive because many other GC fan projects petered out long before they were done, exhibit A being the dead fan forum that lingers below. I think it really has to do with how straightforward a project is and how easily the labor is divided. This is pretty simple and we can all work fairly autonomously on the tagging itself. I remember when we were doing the tarot cards, the major arcana got done painlessly because they didn't have a theme but as soon as we started the minor arcana a debate broke out over which symbols/suits we should use and it promptly died for lack of coordination. I think it helps that it is a project with simple goals, and an obvious utility to other readers. How many of us have wished we could find the comic we're thinking of just by searching a keyword? Whereas the voice show thing (I've looked at the forum below this one and wondered what happened to it) or tarot cards (must have been before my time) have artistic interest, but are of little utility beyond that. Of course if snipergirl or louisxiv who are hosting the files suddenly left we'd all be screwed again... I'm trying to help out tagging but couldn't write code if my life depended on it! Also the clicking tabs is working again now, I don't know, maybe just refused to load properly last time or something. |
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Post by louisxiv on Jun 6, 2013 18:08:00 GMT
The other essential property is that it is actually quite fun to do, an archive dive with a purpose. Having it split between a bunch of contributors makes it a bit faster of course - doing Misfile, from scratch and rather less automated, took me about 9 weeks to get up to 'current', a bit over 2000 pages. The first pass here may be mostly done two weeks perhaps? As to the index disappearing: It'd need both of us (me and snipergirl) not just to disappear at the same time but also actively take down my site and her Github repository, both of which hold accessible copies of the underlying data - one of the reasons for doing a static page rather than a database thing is so it is easy for others to reproduce. As you can copy either at any time I don't think there's much danger of losing what's been done so far. Putting up a new version elsewhere would be a very simple exercise that I'm sure would be easy for the assembled technical brains of Gunnerkrigg fandom - I set the initial thing up and have done the whole of the equivalent Misfile page "on me tod", so it can't be that difficult! Good to know selection's working for you now |
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Post by snipertom on Jun 6, 2013 18:15:16 GMT
The other essential property is that it is actually quite fun to do, an archive dive with a purpose. Having it split between a bunch of contributors makes it a bit faster of course - doing Misfile, from scratch and rather less automated, took me about 9 weeks to get up to 'current', a bit over 2000 pages. The first pass here may be mostly done two weeks perhaps? As to the index disappearing: It'd need both of us (me and snipergirl) not just to disappear at the same time but also actively take down my site and her Github repository, both of which hold accessible copies of the underlying data - one of the reasons for doing a static page rather than a database thing is so it is easy for others to reproduce. As you can copy either at any time I don't think there's much danger of losing what's been done so far. Putting up a new version elsewhere would be a very simple exercise that I'm sure would be easy for the assembled technical brains of Gunnerkrigg fandom - I set the initial thing up and have done the whole of the equivalent Misfile page "on me tod", so it can't be that difficult! Good to know selection's working for you now Exactly! Plus we have someone who's done this before, we have an idea of roughly how we might do the passes, and the aim at the moment is to be inclusive rather than to argue about what's notable or not (for now anyway!) which means it's unambiguous and gets things done faster and people are happy And yeah, the raw data is always there, plus I'm assuming (correct me if I'm wrong) that one of us will eventually probably put up a python script at some point that's capable of compiling the rest of the site. |
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Post by snipertom on Jun 6, 2013 18:15:53 GMT
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Helps that it's (one of/the) best webcomic(s) of course 
