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Post by americonedream on May 13, 2013 9:27:53 GMT
Agreed! I can hear spurs clacking now..
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Post by Lightice on May 13, 2013 9:37:06 GMT
Huh. I guess it's again time for the dartboard filled to the brim with darts...
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Post by lordofpotatoes on May 13, 2013 10:10:56 GMT
Agreed! I can hear spurs clacking now.. Tumbleweed, spurs, wind and snakes rattling. Prepare yourselves. |
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Post by keeana on May 13, 2013 10:17:09 GMT
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I don't know if I would be more thrilled with the coming developments if the message was sent by Bobby or by Paz! (But I suspect Bobby.)
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Post by americonedream on May 13, 2013 10:22:00 GMT
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Post by lordofpotatoes on May 13, 2013 10:31:26 GMT
Thanks, just what I needed, |
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Post by Toloc on May 13, 2013 10:33:45 GMT
Yup, my money's still on Lindsey
And I agree: Why's Parley asking about Kat? Especially with the emphasis on is. Probably just a bad transition.
When are we right now btw? (A question not asked often) After forest but before cafeteria? After cafeteria?
Which would either imply we switched narrators without any mention of it or we lost our framing device.
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Post by snipertom on May 13, 2013 11:43:43 GMT
I think that the idea about Bud & Lindsey doing something to bring things out into the open is probably right- they're the only ones who use computer paper like that as I recall!
anyway even if (and i don't think it's likely) kat & paz are mutually into each other, there are a bunch of reasons why this situation can and will end in tears- the biggest one being that they're both completely freaked out by the idea of LESBIANS. Trust me, it doesn't make for good relationship material. And confronting people never works!
Woo hello /co/
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Post by Rymdljus on May 13, 2013 12:06:34 GMT
When are we right now btw? (A question not asked often) After forest but before cafeteria? After cafeteria? Which would either imply we switched narrators without any mention of it or we lost our framing device. I was confused by this as well. I thought this was before the cafeteria scene, but now it seems to be after, since Kat now has the love letter, and Annie had it before. |
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Post by arf on May 13, 2013 12:59:39 GMT
Agreed! I can hear spurs clacking now.. Robbie will be revealed strumming a guitar, for added atmosphere. |
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Post by Ophel on May 13, 2013 13:35:02 GMT
So, is Kat going to ask Paz to help her with the mysterious love letter sender?
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Post by Lightice on May 13, 2013 13:37:37 GMT
It's funny, by the way, the winter clothes are making all the female characters look a lot shorter than they used to. It's the added width of their silhouette, I guess.
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Post by 0o0f on May 13, 2013 14:07:48 GMT
Oh. (Paz looks good with a hat.  ) |
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Post by Purgatorius on May 13, 2013 14:26:18 GMT
This is also my theory. Paz wouldn't be able to write an "eloquently written" letter in english. If Alistair wants to contact Kat he needs to go through Paz (or someone unknown who can also speak with birds). Paz would choose to print the letter on a computer, so her handwriting wouldn't reveal her as the writer. What this theory doesn't explain is why Paz didn't start the letter with something like "Hello Kat, our former class-mate Alistair is now a bird and wanted me to write the following to you:" But maybe Paz doesn't want to be open about her ability to speak with birds? |
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Post by americonedream on May 13, 2013 16:19:49 GMT
Ah, but how could Ally contact Paz as he lives all the way in the forest? The only real animal life around the court is pigeons and lab rats. Plus Kat already knows Paz speaks to animals because she took City Face to her to see what he was saying when Kat found him. I think Paz's ability is pretty widely known.
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Post by warrl on May 13, 2013 17:37:05 GMT
I wonder what made Parley ask about Kat. They hadn't mentioned her in any of the dialogue we got to see. I would say it's because it's unusual to see Annie without Kat outside of class time (and, aside from during medium training, Parley and Andrew probably rarely see Annie *in* class). But, that doesn't necessarily work either. They do each have their own projects that the other is not involved in. Just because one is not busy with something during their free time, does not mean the other is also not busy. |
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Post by philman on May 13, 2013 19:01:40 GMT
I'm still going with Paz, or Lindsey/Bud. Although if it was from Lindsay, surely she would have delivered it to Kat herself, not to Annie?
I was thinking Alistair, but then he would have mentioned it was him, surely? I can't think of a reason why he would keep it anonymous, especially if he had to go through Paz to type it out
I don't know why some people are so anti the idea of it being Paz, is it just because it seems too "obvious" and we are used to being misdirected too much by Tom?
As long as it isn't from a robot anyway, that just doesn't make sense in my mind. They see her as an Angel, a saviour, not someone to fall in love with, if robots can even do that.
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Post by blahzor on May 13, 2013 19:10:27 GMT
Ah, but how could Ally contact Paz as he lives all the way in the forest? The only real animal life around the court is pigeons and lab rats. Plus Kat already knows Paz speaks to animals because she took City Face to her to see what he was saying when Kat found him. I think Paz's ability is pretty widely known. Ally wouldn't be allowed back in the court after his family volunteer to leave and give up their bodies. As neither side likes what ever leaves for the other |
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Post by philman on May 13, 2013 19:43:10 GMT
Ally wouldn't be allowed back in the court after his family volunteer to leave and give up their bodies. As neither side likes what ever leaves for the other References?  We've seen the shadow men don't like one of their own going to the court, but don't know about the reactions to anyone else. If the court arranged for Aly and his family to be turned into birds, I don't see why they would then dislike them and shun them. |
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Post by coolpilot on May 13, 2013 20:29:08 GMT
Huh. I guess it's again time for the dartboard filled to the brim with darts... The dartboard was filled up a long time ago. We're just chucking them at the broad side of the barn now.  Also, I'm inclined to agree with the theories that Kat's going to Paz to get her help finding out who wrote the letter, but I still see the possibility that Kat actually thinks it's from Paz. Either way, I still see this coming conversation going very awkwardly. |
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Post by Toloc on May 13, 2013 20:38:15 GMT
I wonder what made Parley ask about Kat. They hadn't mentioned her in any of the dialogue we got to see. I would say it's because it's unusual to see Annie without Kat outside of class time (and, aside from during medium training, Parley and Andrew probably rarely see Annie *in* class). But, that doesn't necessarily work either. They do each have their own projects that the other is not involved in. Just because one is not busy with something during their free time, does not mean the other is also not busy. Yeah you're probably right. Annie and Kat mostly hang together and they were discussing Jeanne, which usually includes Kat Still kinda awkward transition |
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Post by lordofpotatoes on May 13, 2013 21:01:17 GMT
I think I'll jump onto download's old theory, why would she go to Paz for any other any reason than to confront her, considering how awkward things went last time. But she'll be wrong.
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Post by Lightice on May 13, 2013 21:17:40 GMT
As long as it isn't from a robot anyway, that just doesn't make sense in my mind. They see her as an Angel, a saviour, not someone to fall in love with, if robots can even do that. Robots do in fact fall in love with Court student often enough that there's a guideline poster for how to deal with the situation (could somebody with more time in their hands find a link?). But the "eloquently written" bit doesn't seem to match how the robots convey their emotions, most of the time, and surely Annie would have commented on the telltale signs of robot language if they were present. |
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Post by americonedream on May 13, 2013 21:52:14 GMT
Ah, but how could Ally contact Paz as he lives all the way in the forest? The only real animal life around the court is pigeons and lab rats. Plus Kat already knows Paz speaks to animals because she took City Face to her to see what he was saying when Kat found him. I think Paz's ability is pretty widely known. Ally wouldn't be allowed back in the court after his family volunteer to leave and give up their bodies. As neither side likes what ever leaves for the other Precisely my point, nobody ever travels back the other way once they make the change. The bridge was built on the terms that people sometimes wish to be animals and animals wish to be people; that's the only reason it exists. I'm left with the impression that Ally cannot fly back to the court to speak to Paz and the bridge alarms would sound if Paz walked across them which she would have no reason to do unless previously contacted. Furthermore if it were Ally contacting Kat, she wouldn't have been embarrassed about it and would have asked Annie for help to go visit him. Annie IS the Forest's Medium to the court so she would surely find a way to contact Ally for Kat if Kat were to ask. As much as I'd personally like those two to keep in contact or meet, I don't see it happening, I think that arc has been successfully put to bed. |
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Post by blahzor on May 13, 2013 21:52:17 GMT
Ally wouldn't be allowed back in the court after his family volunteer to leave and give up their bodies. As neither side likes what ever leaves for the other References? We've seen the shadow men don't like one of their own going to the court, but don't know about the reactions to anyone else. If the court arranged for Aly and his family to be turned into birds, I don't see why they would then dislike them and shun them. i'll go look for the page but at one point Y's called the animals that gave up their bodies to live in the court cowards or something |
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Post by philman on May 13, 2013 21:53:33 GMT
As long as it isn't from a robot anyway, that just doesn't make sense in my mind. They see her as an Angel, a saviour, not someone to fall in love with, if robots can even do that. Robots do in fact fall in love with Court student often enough that there's a guideline poster for how to deal with the situation (could somebody with more time in their hands find a link?). But the "eloquently written" bit doesn't seem to match how the robots convey their emotions, most of the time, and surely Annie would have commented on the telltale signs of robot language if they were present. Well sure, but I always took those end-of-chapter scenes more as jokes rather than to be taken seriously. Sure, because Ys has always seemed the most sane guy, representing the forest really well... Those creatures all wanting help from Smittie looked like they resented humans almost as much as Ys does. On that note, I've always wondered, the animosity between the forest and the court has always seemed a little manufactured to me. Other than Coyote and Ys, nothing else from the forest have ever seemed bothered about the court. |
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Post by marceline on May 14, 2013 0:16:36 GMT
One of the only things that popped into my head when I read the update was that it definitely could have been from Bobby but I don't know, I think I'm reading too much into Paz's expression upon seeing Kat to totally believe it.
Though maybe she's just startled Kat showed up; as they don't seem to have interacted since the...awkward incident, so it could be that. It does seem odd, however - that Kat decided to go to Paz of all people, and I'm sure if she does want to bring up the love letter (which seems p likely, I guess, considering it's in her hand, out in the open), then she'll probably have a quick fire theory. She's smart as hay, after all.
On the flip side it would be super cute if Paz got help from Bobby to 'eloquently' write a love letter, and send it to Kat. (It'd also make it seem less obvious that it was from Paz herself, I guess - and since robots can't really convey emotion all that well, Paz may have just requested better sentence structure and more romantic sounding words).
Though I'm not for a second saying this is a proper opinion on anything going on. Just a cute theory idea, I guess.
My only real point of view is that Kat is a super brave (precious baby) for going off to do whatever she may be doing in terms of the letter.
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Post by ctso74 on May 14, 2013 0:58:22 GMT
That was my first thought, as well. Then again, it could be Paz. It'll be very interesting, to see how the characters bring up such an awkward discussion. Everyone must, sooner or later. Though, I'd love it, if Kat goes in full throttle assuming it's Paz. Only to find, she's completely wrong. Teen Drama: Schadenfreude, at it's finest. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2013 1:24:48 GMT
Before Aly gets discussed even further (I swear, we're going to have speculation threads about Aly being the seed bismuth by the end of this thing), I would like to point out that we still don't know what the letter actually says - everyone could just be misinterpreting the whole thing.
It's entirely possible that City Face wanted to give Kat a totally triple-sweet radtacular thank you letter expressing gratitude and love and Paz helped him out with all that. Or Kat could be wrong! Or it could be exactly as it seems. But somehow I doubt that.
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Post by tulicloure on May 14, 2013 1:31:27 GMT
Kinda off-topic, but does anyone have any idea of what the chapter title, "Catalyst", is referring to?
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