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Post by Aris Katsaris on Sept 26, 2011 12:51:00 GMT
Calling it now: atleast one of the next updates will feature William battling Dark lords of the Sith with a lightsaber, and Janet riding a unicorn or dragon or other mythical creature.
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Post by ivanduzer on Sept 26, 2011 13:32:32 GMT
William is wearing a necklace with a cross on it. How well does Christianity mesh with a school whose students include valkyries and faeries, which regularly receives visits from gods and godlike entities? I mean I guess on the one hand having Coyote all up in your business could make the events of the Bible seem a lot more plausible, but on the other it's kind of undermining the whole faith concept and miracles when one of your classmates can summon flames from nowhere and another gained the ability of flight after being infected by a magic brain spider. Except Christianity isn't about miracles; it's about grace. How would the presence of Coyote mean there was no God? Couldn't He have just made Coyote? The presence of the supernatural doesn't contradict Christianity at all. If God made the supernatural exist, if he invented etherically-attuned people, demigods and scary spider ghosts, then it exists. The Bible never says the supernatural doesn't exist; in fact, it's one of the biggest ways he Old Testament prophets, the Judges of Israel, and the Apostles in the New Testament spread the faith. So, I don't think a Christian would really have any trouble living in the Court. The supernatural is already a huge part of the Christian religion. I'd bet a Christian would have as much trouble adjusting to Court life as an atheist. |
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Post by Rafael on Sept 26, 2011 13:39:40 GMT
This is the best story ever.
I want the entire comic to be narrated by William and Janet from now on.
Also, love how the page is beautiful and hilarious at the same time.
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Post by Aurelia Verity on Sept 26, 2011 14:09:30 GMT
this is the best manly shot since Mr. Eglamore was found chopping wood in "Residence" Thank-you Mr. Siddell, Thank-you  Also, i don't think we should be attaching a lot of significance to the cross, in this case, i think, Tom is parodying the whole historical-romance genre and in those days people wore crosses a lot. My grandma, God rest her, had like fifty of such books, all shriekingly funny, and on the cover either the half naked girl or the topless guy would sometimes wear a cross. it's to show how pure and true the characters are and by extension their love is. or something like that |
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Post by doran on Sept 26, 2011 14:24:57 GMT
Also, i don't think we should be attaching a lot of significance to the cross, in this case, i think, Tom is parodying the whole historical-romance genre and in those days people wore crosses a lot. My grandma, God rest her, had like fifty of such books, all shriekingly funny, and on the cover either the half naked girl or the topless guy would sometimes wear a cross. it's to show how pure and true the characters are and by extension their love is. or something like that I think someone needs to write a historical romance horror crossover where the reason everyone wears those crosses is to ward off vampires. Romantic love... and vampire slaying. |
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Post by crater on Sept 26, 2011 14:57:14 GMT
Each of their stories involve transportation. Maybe they met on a bus?
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Post by blahzor on Sept 26, 2011 14:57:56 GMT
ahhh Romance Novels, always so dirty without being direct
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Post by tustin2121 on Sept 26, 2011 15:19:49 GMT
I predict that they will start fighting over which is true, making the other kids question whether they're telling the truth at all.  And then they'll break up. (Maybe) |
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Post by Elaienar on Sept 26, 2011 15:55:48 GMT
William is wearing a necklace with a cross on it. How well does Christianity mesh with a school whose students include valkyries and faeries, which regularly receives visits from gods and godlike entities? I mean I guess on the one hand having Coyote all up in your business could make the events of the Bible seem a lot more plausible, but on the other it's kind of undermining the whole faith concept and miracles when one of your classmates can summon flames from nowhere and another gained the ability of flight after being infected by a magic brain spider. That may well be just a part of his "costume", as we've never seen any indication that he wears one in real life. As far as Christianity fitting in, God isn't the only supernatural being in the Bible, so while it probably takes some getting used to for Christians, I doubt it's that hard for them to deal with. Can't see them worshipping coyote, though. Not that I think anyone else does. Yep. In addition I'd like to point out that not only does the Bible not deny the existence of other powerful supernatural beings, it clearly implies the existence of such persons when it commands that "no other gods [than God]" should be worshipped. So theologically I've got no problem with other gods existing (and personally I think I'd be more thrilled than not to find that certain myths had more than a little basis in fact). |
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Post by Rafael on Sept 26, 2011 16:48:46 GMT
ahhh Romance Novels, always so dirty without being direct What are you talking ab... oh..."straight in each limb"... oh God. |
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Post by drzhivago138 on Sept 26, 2011 17:20:00 GMT
I find it notable that in both versions of the story (so far), the storyteller looks essentially the same as they do in real life, while the subject of the tale is ...rather stylized.
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Post by Margo on Sept 26, 2011 18:22:35 GMT
Dear Tom,
This is the best page.
Sincerely,
Margo
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Post by Dvandaemon on Sept 26, 2011 18:47:57 GMT
I think someone needs to write a historical romance horror crossover where the reason everyone wears those crosses is to ward off vampires. Romantic love... and vampire slaying. That would be so perfect kind oflike Buffy but probably less meta. |
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Post by Georgie L on Sept 26, 2011 21:09:04 GMT
I predict that they will start fighting over which is true, making the other kids question whether they're telling the truth at all. And then they'll break up. (Maybe) oh come now, tom is more devious than that. |
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Post by todd on Sept 26, 2011 22:25:56 GMT
I think that at least some devout Christians would have some problem with the Court's goals, assuming Coyote was correct about it being an attempt "to become God", and that it's how the Court perceives its goal rather than how Coyote perceives it. To them, the Court's endeavor might seem like another Tower of Babel. (In fact, C. S. Lewis got the title of "That Hideous Strength" from a medieval work on the Tower of Babel, and while the Court isn't quite as bad as that book's villains, the National Institute of Co-ordinated Experiments - for one thing, the Court still seems genuinely interested in science and discovery, while N.I.CE. only pretends to be interested in those things in order to dupe the press and the public into supporting it, and its real goal is world domination - the Court's eradication of nearly all organic life on its side of the river that Jeanne mentions in the "Sky Watcher" flashback does come chillingly close to some of N.I.C.E.'s plans.)
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 27, 2011 3:04:09 GMT
Undercover cop posing as a stable boy? Not the only option: It goes a little beyond simple "nice horse" and straight into " nize horze!" territory. The forum has sure been quiet this past week. We're speechless. Or laugh so hard it's hard to use a keyboard. Or both. Guestbook have the same problems: And, of course, the right answer: |
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Post by basser on Sept 27, 2011 3:36:02 GMT
this is the best manly shot since Mr. Eglamore was found chopping wood in "Residence" Thank-you Mr. Siddell, Thank-you Also, i don't think we should be attaching a lot of significance to the cross, in this case, i think, Tom is parodying the whole historical-romance genre and in those days people wore crosses a lot. My grandma, God rest her, had like fifty of such books, all shriekingly funny, and on the cover either the half naked girl or the topless guy would sometimes wear a cross. it's to show how pure and true the characters are and by extension their love is. or something like that Oh I agree we shouldn't attach too much significance to the cross or anything else in these pages either. I just saw it and thought it was an interesting thing to point out. Obviously for it to be there the students must be aware that such things exist, and it seemed entertaining to me to imagine a devout Christian being confronted with Coyote's eyeball juggling trick. Also I'm an atheist who was raised Buddhist so I have no frame of reference for Christian attitudes besides what I gather from talking to them, so I was also a little curious to know what people of legitimate faith would make of the apparent contradiction. Though now that I think about it I suppose it makes more sense for scientists to be the ones most upset by the Court, since we tend to get pissy when things disregard the laws of physics and biology and such. Religious people are already primed to accept supernatural hijinks and move on, so Coyote juggling his eyes would probably just annoy them. If I personally were confronted with such a sight I'm sure I would chalk it up to late-onset schizophrenia rather than a legitimate demigod performing circus tricks. |
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Post by kiwifruit on Sept 27, 2011 9:17:07 GMT
I'm a Christian myself and though I would have difficulty adjusting to the Court, it wouldn't be because of my faith. Hey, I'd probably have trouble adjusting if Jesus came again...as would a lot of Christians I'm sure xP Also, take a look at a lot of churches, which have become all about money or power or both. Surely Christians should have a problem with that too...but a lot don't or just won't. I think most people tend to like inertia with nothing coming along to disturb their version of reality. But onto the picture...soooo pretty  I just wanna get this made into a poster xD It makes me miss my horse-riding days too...:') |
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 27, 2011 12:28:57 GMT
As far as Christianity fitting in, God isn't the only supernatural being in the Bible, so while it probably takes some getting used to Are there any at all? Isn't the concept (if it's articulate enough to be called so) of "supernatural" as such rather too modern for that? Sorry for the self reply, but it's also worth noting that the song goes on to say that her father kills Willie. Hopefully, Tom's reference doesn't go beyond the first verse above. But may help to explain this secrecy. This is now the best chapter. It's shaken with cutesplosions! Chapter 32 is close behind, fun character design -wise. Half expected her to say "And his hair went up. That was hot." You're right. So that's why everyone is William's friend now... Wait, I think I see it: they're going to disagree over and over with increasing violence over the "how they met" story, and start fighting, only *that* will be for show and the others to be like "okay whatever". I, also, suspect that these two ran with mock fights for so long simply because they both are into this. How would the presence of Coyote mean there was no God? Couldn't He have just made Coyote? The presence of the supernatural doesn't contradict Christianity at all. Coyote in his own mythos was explicitly said to be fooling around and trying to hold a candle when some other and presumably more competent creator worked. That's not even starting on, you know, henotheism. Not that the presence of Coyote or various weird stuff was included into everyday reality as far as most folk in the Court are concerned. now that I think about it I suppose it makes more sense for scientists to be the ones most upset by the Court, since we tend to get pissy when things disregard the laws of physics and biology and such. And here i was thinking that scientists (as opposed to, say, engineers), kind of by definition, are supposed to be interested primarily in the things that don't fit into the existing laws of physics and biology and such.  I think most people tend to like inertia with nothing coming along to disturb their version of reality. That's a nice way to say this. ;D |
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Post by hifranc on Sept 27, 2011 13:23:23 GMT
I personally think they are telling us a lot about how they met but they're being cryptic. I suspect that in their first meeting they exchanged thoughts about fiction and stories. I think that Winsbury was either reading/watching/had just finished the story on which his fantasy was based on. I think that Janet was either reading/watching/had just finished the story on which her fantasy was based.
They were in the mood to discuss the fiction that moved them and found that they warmed to one another.
Of course it may have been music rather than films and/or books.
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Post by rallan on Sept 27, 2011 13:59:52 GMT
The real story is that they met at a William McGonnagal Poetry Night, and they've been keeping their love a secret because neither of them want the world to know that they like "The Railway Bridge of the Silvery Tay" unironically.
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Post by Ulysses on Sept 27, 2011 16:32:15 GMT
UlyssesIt might not be saying anything about her faith personally, maybe more about the stereotypical sort of stuff she's been reading. I.E. she asscociates that era/time with christianity being the common religion. I like this explanation the most. |
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Post by Max on Sept 27, 2011 16:38:20 GMT
I got to say, I'd have some trouble adjusting to the Court as an atheist as well.
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Post by Fhqwhgads on Sept 27, 2011 22:30:30 GMT
Dear Tom, This is the best page. Sincerely, Margo I'm sorry but did anybody else ever watch Good Neighbors (I think in the UK they called it The Good Life)? Back in the 70's, this was. Tom and Margo were two of the main characters and I totally just read this in snotty Margo's voice and cracked up. /sorry, please continue |
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I just wanna get this made into a poster xD It makes me miss my horse-riding days too...:')
