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Post by Max on May 25, 2011 7:01:07 GMT
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Post by smjjames on May 25, 2011 7:03:35 GMT
Thats what I'm thinking too. I instantly thought 'Data Cube!' when I saw that, despite Toms comment about it being a sugar cube. Actually, I thought of a Jedi holocube, go Star Wars geekout, l o l
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Post by americonedream on May 25, 2011 7:04:10 GMT
Origami-Bot wanted a chance to show off his skills, so the other bots let him fold up the printout before they gave it to Kat.
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Post by wynne on May 25, 2011 7:04:29 GMT
Just wanted to say, I love the way Annie looks like a fifties-style gangster, flipping her blinker stone instead of a coin.
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Post by Max on May 25, 2011 7:08:05 GMT
Thats what I'm thinking too. I instantly thought 'Data Cube!' when I saw that, despite Toms comment about it being a sugar cube. "Data cube" was going to be my comment for this thread, as a reference to the video game Tyrian, but no one would have gotten it. Here's the Wikipedia article on holographic data storage.
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Post by smjjames on May 25, 2011 7:12:13 GMT
Thats what I'm thinking too. I instantly thought 'Data Cube!' when I saw that, despite Toms comment about it being a sugar cube. "Data cube" was going to be my comment for this thread, as a reference to the video game Tyrian, but no one would have gotten it. Here's the Wikipedia article on holographic data storage. I would have gotten what data cube meant, although not the Tyrian reference, Although there really isn't any reference to a 'holocube' on that wiki page, which is a common science fiction representation of holographic data storage. It also looks like the court robots are alot more advanced in some ways than they are letting on.
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Post by deram on May 25, 2011 7:39:35 GMT
Reminds me of something from Carl Sagan's contact (film version). over 60,000 "pages" of a blue print for a wormhole machine was sent to Earth. for a while they couldn't understand it until someone realized that the "pages" was supposed to be interpreted in 3 dimensions, not two. a cube, not a plane like we're use to.
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Post by Gemini Jim on May 25, 2011 9:21:04 GMT
This is what happens when you don't set specific parameters for your printout instructions ;D Or yeah. The datasphere one.
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Post by Alexandragon on May 25, 2011 9:59:32 GMT
Just wanted to say, I love the way Annie looks like a fifties-style gangster, flipping her blinker stone instead of a coin. I like that comparison) Also: Hm... Maybe that is bigger(of full) version of unknown extra part of Robot's CPU in [222]? Reminds me of something from Carl Sagan's contact (film version). I like this film! Also: I remember this moment in film. But that was pyramid, not cube, as I remember that moment.
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Post by eightyfour on May 25, 2011 10:23:55 GMT
Just wanted to say, I love the way Annie looks like a fifties-style gangster, flipping her blinker stone instead of a coin. Annie: playing with fire. (literally! ;D )
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Post by basser on May 25, 2011 10:50:41 GMT
Or what if it's just a sugar cube, and the secret is that robots get hungry.
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Post by rainofsteel on May 25, 2011 11:35:31 GMT
"And for the grand finale, the all-new ice cube system!"
-- Zorg, The Fifth Element
(Sorry, I just couldn't get the phrase out of my mind.)
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Post by Molly the Sleepless on May 25, 2011 12:36:40 GMT
I know I should be focusing on the code and the cube that the robot is giving Kat, but all I can think is "Why did she put a cup on top of her stack of papers. That's an accident waiting to happen."
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Post by aaroncampbell on May 25, 2011 13:02:08 GMT
Hm... Maybe that is bigger(of full) version of unknown extra part of Robot's CPU in [222]? Hey, maybe you're right! I'd forgotten that bit. Also, I wonder if there is enough of a correlation between the robots' "own code based on Diego's designs" and Diego's original scribbles, so that this printout will be able to serve somewhat as a Rosetta Stone for Kat? (That is, once she figures out how to read this "printout"!)
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Post by percival on May 25, 2011 13:08:17 GMT
It's the cube from the chapter cover, in place of Diego's heart design. Does this mean Kat might be successful in re-animating the old bots without deciphering his design?
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Post by atteSmythe on May 25, 2011 13:16:27 GMT
Given its color, the first thing I thought of is that it is the same heart. Generation after generation of transcription errors have reduced its size and shape to what we see now. For the robots don't know what they're writing, they're just making copies.
Though we never got to see first-generation robots in their prime, it might explain the cartoonishness of the current generation. Man, if that's right, the robots' story just gets sadder and sadder.
Edit: or maybe not - the color is different. I remembered the heart being described as ceramic, which made me remember it in that dull white color.
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Post by exdevlin on May 25, 2011 14:05:34 GMT
Perhaps the current generation of robots is not as sophisticated as they could be, given that most robots have but one prime function. It could be that they've written a far more sophisticated block of code, and thus, it is a cube rather than a small flat chip.
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Post by smjjames on May 25, 2011 14:36:21 GMT
Given its color, the first thing I thought of is that it is the same heart. Generation after generation of transcription errors have reduced its size and shape to what we see now. For the robots don't know what they're writing, they're just making copies. Though we never got to see first-generation robots in their prime, it might explain the cartoonishness of the current generation. Man, if that's right, the robots' story just gets sadder and sadder. Edit: or maybe not - the color is different. I remembered the heart being described as ceramic, which made me remember it in that dull white color. Nice comparison with genetics there, however, I don't think that is completely the case here. Obviously the robots kept up with modern technology, maybe even surpassing it in certain areas, so it could be smaller largely due to miniturization. Remember holocubes and holographic storage? It's the cube from the chapter cover, in place of Diego's heart design. Does this mean Kat might be successful in re-animating the old bots without deciphering his design? Oh yea, great observation! Maybe the cube does the same function as the heart did in older models? Acts like a central core. As for reanimating the old droids (just wanted to say that, heh), that depends on the the interface used for the cube and the interface used for the heart. We didn't see the ceramic heart when it was still mounted inside the giant robot.
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Post by atteSmythe on May 25, 2011 15:16:28 GMT
Nice comparison with genetics there, however, I don't think that is completely the case here. Obviously the robots kept up with modern technology, maybe even surpassing it in certain areas, so it could be smaller largely due to miniturization. Remember holocubes and holographic storage? I agree that they've moved forward in some respects, by adapting whatever technology is available, but they have gotten more crude in form over time. I'm really posting, though, to say that this conversation reminded me of a video I saw a few weeks back: 100 people drawing a straight lineEdit: Link was bad somehow, check further down
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Post by starburst98 on May 25, 2011 15:33:46 GMT
i think their operating system is a placebo. they don't have one but were told they did. that little extra thingy on the CPU is the new version of the heart.
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Post by jayne on May 25, 2011 15:47:34 GMT
Robot evolution is different than biological evolution. Biological evolution occurs when cells divide imperfectly and if the result of that improves the chances of survival, that change gets passed on. Robot evolution is a mindful change to increase efficiency. They've had hundreds of years, pretty much on their own, to decide what is more efficient... which is how you get a robot that JUST plays random notes. He's extremely efficient at playing random notes.
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Post by legion on May 25, 2011 16:20:57 GMT
Sugar… heart… all the robots are… sweethearts.
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Post by zylonbane on May 25, 2011 17:43:17 GMT
It's a sugar cube. The robots' program is derived from Brownian motion.
Now they just need to find a hot cup of tea and an atomic vector plotter.
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Post by notacat on May 25, 2011 20:48:51 GMT
It's a sugar cube. The robots' program is derived from Brownian motion. Now they just need to find a hot cup of tea and an atomic vector plotter. At least we won't have to suffer translocation of underwear and the inane rantings of respectable physicists...although of the two I know which would be preferable ;D Even better, hopefully nobody will have to get lynched for beaing a smartarse
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Post by Amethyst on May 25, 2011 22:43:38 GMT
Am I the only one who thought it was a sugar cube BEFORE reading Tom's comment?
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Post by Raph on May 25, 2011 23:35:02 GMT
Nope. I'm always thinking about sugar... or possible sugary sources.
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Post by kalechibki on May 25, 2011 23:40:26 GMT
Umm....since the video link brought me to a spider killing a fly (or some other insect), did you mean to post this video? I have to say, now that I've seen that video, I totally see where your thought came from...and agree 100%
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Post by atteSmythe on May 26, 2011 2:18:35 GMT
Umm....since the video link brought me to a spider killing a fly (or some other insect), did you mean to post this video? I have to say, now that I've seen that video, I totally see where your thought came from...and agree 100% And now it's "Piano Pat: Montana Legend" - I have no idea what Vimeo's doing to my link, but yes, you have the one I intended (and was there earlier, I checked! Grr). Thanks for the fix, I took the link out of my previous post.
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Post by basser on May 26, 2011 4:01:10 GMT
I was serious with it being an actual sugar cube. Glucose (or sucrose here, I guess) is an important part of life and maybe all the old-timey robots need is a little pick-me-up. I for one would find it hilarious if the secret to Diego's brand of magic is feeding his creations delicious sweets.
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Post by hurston on May 26, 2011 7:33:52 GMT
I'm guessing that the 'code' is etched on the surface of the cube, just like with the heart. The chip part, which Kat is most likely really interested in, is still separate, as with the original Diego models. Cue Kat demanding the real code on a USB stick
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