So I was re-reading the chapter Annie meets Red and blue and noticed the fairies asked Annie for help with their test, but not Jeanne, who would have had no problem with the request. They were even afraid of her when she appeared on the shore with them and Annie. I wonder if Jeanne ending the fairies' lives would mess up the ritual somehow.
I didn't read it as "fear" so much as "surprise", in that Jeanne wasn't supposed to be able to cross the river at all, and was unexpectedly on top of them and threatening Annie (who wasn't trying to die). Had Jeanne showed up less menacingly, I suspect they would have happily asked for help.
Ad the carnivore problem, just few pages back, Ms Bugsy said that animals geat eaten in the forest. And the court experiments on animals. I don't think there's a prevailing feeling in the forest or the court that it's a problem.
There's a difference between acknowledging predation in nature as a part of life, or resigning to the fact that an amoral institution like the Court does what it does, and having prey animals (like Bunny) enjoy casual friendly interaction with people who eat prey animals -- ones who are bred in captivity for that purpose -- out of conscious choice. I can sort of buy the idea that it's accepted, but accepted to the point that it doesn't mar social relationships? I think it poses a problem, one that at least deserved to be explained away canonically.
Just like a human doesn't feel much kinship with a rabbit or a fish, I suspect a rabbit doesn't feel much kinship with a cow. If Parley had suggested eating a rabbit (or a horned rabbit) that might have been a little more of an issue.
So, Ysengrin knows something is going on, but doesn't know why.
But unfortunately, the most obvious possibility is "I'm old" or "I'm losing my mind" (it's what Jones seems to think) rather than "some intelligent being is stealing my memories" . . . so I doubt he'd even be suspicious from this "revelation".
Exactly, and the key to the overlay theory is the notion that this also applies to the movement of ether, for lack of a better term. I've used this example before but what the hell, here it is again...
So according to my overlay theory, before there were 'Pomps humans were regularly dying anyway and their energy was rejoining the ether along with their stories. However, the dying process is traumatic and the living lacked answers about exactly what happens to the dead. Over time humans comforted themselves with stories about beings who could provide guidance during the dying process and believed in them, and by doing so made the situation more complex.
But that doesn't really apply in this case. Remember Jones' footprints? They existed long before the supposed "spark of inspiration" that created her ever could. Retrograde creation is either total in the Gunnerverse, or it does not exist at all.
So, from any in-universe observer's viewpoint, it would appear as if Coyote existed first, then the Canyon existed because of Coyote. Therefore, it is a Paradox: Coyote is the cause of what he claims triggered his own creation. Also, how is this differentiable in any way from if Coyote had not been formed from the imagination of mankind? Honestly, it isn't.
Now, a simpler explanation for these hypothetical observations would be that Coyote is wrong. That explanation is also in line with all the observations we have from the comic. Therefore, I conclude that Coyote is wrong.
Jones' footprint exists now, in rock that was likely laid down a long time ago. Doesn't mean her footprint was laid down a long time ago, nor does it mean her footprint wasn't. But nobody can actually say when the footprint appeared in the rock.
The stars are in their current positions now. Coyote remembers putting them there. Jones remembers something different, but also claims he isn't lying. Is Coyote's memory wrong, or is Jones', or both, or neither? If the Ether is truly messing with causality, time, space and matter, nobody can say for sure whose memories are "right".
And so comes the greater paradox of Coyote and the Canyon. Human sees a canyon, imagines Coyote created it. But then, Coyote retroactively is the reason why the canyon exists. But if Coyote is the only reason the canyon exists, then how did it exist in the first place, before man imagined Coyote?
Who said Coyote becomes the only reason the canyon exists?
"Who put the stars in the sky? Coyote will say he did it himself, and it is not a lie . . . However, I can unequivocally say the stars were always in the sky."
Whatever is being said here, it's not that Coyote becomes the only reason the stars are in the sky
You also cannot go without some kind of drive and stil be able to interact with the world on any level(even if it's just scratching your ass or bothering to get a goofy bowl haircut). Something that moves you from the spot to actually do things. Quite literally in Jones' situation because she isn't even forced by biology to eat or drink. There's a lot of things she's done that don't quite hash out if she were truly the passive, emotionless, and observing stone she said.
I'm not saying she experiences the kind of thing humans do, but she's hardly emotionless. There is some kind of drive or reason to act wrapped up in her somewhere.
That drive need not be emotional. It could be instinctual. I breathe without wanting to breathe . . . my heart beats without me having an emotional connection to my heart. These things just function, without any conscious motivator or emotion attached to them.
For Jones, watching and mimicking could be instinct.
It could be that the robots have the same power as the humans, to create new realities. Or it could be that the robots (and Zimmy) see Kat for what she really is . . . while the humans around her see her as a human, because they expect her to be a human.
I'm reminded of how weird Coyote looked in the aether . . . just colored bands of teeth and eyes. Ysengrin looked roughly like a stylized, vibrant Ysengrin . . . but Coyote looked formless and bizarre. Perhaps that has something to do with his claim now?
Seems like either: - The secret, once out, has the potential to be dangerous to all the people of the forest (Y's upset because he doesn't want to be put in danger), or - The secret, once out, has the potential to be dangerous to Annie (Y's upset because he doesn't want Annie put in danger).
Or both, possibly a "if I tell you, I can't let you go back to that place and tell them" kind of thing.
The problem with the mask being representative of Annie's "everything is fine" facade, is that Jones gives it to her.
I don't see any indication that these scenes are chronological, nor that they have absolute parallels in real-life. After all, Annie apparently has the mask at the cherry tree, before she ever meets Jones in the comic, and long before her encounter with Kamlen in the woods.
One thing, at least, seems clear: Kat doesn't realize that Zimmy is reading Kat's thoughts. Kat thinks "Kamlen", and when Zimmy says "Kamlen" back (seemingly in reaction), Kat's only thought is that Zimmy must be reading the name out of Annie's thoughts.
I fail to see the point though. The 'traditional' Bechdel test isn't generally meant as a test of individual fictions, but rather as a demonstration of a general tendency. Male characters playing periphery roles or having their main focus on girls/women isn't a general tendency.
The traditional Bechdel test is almost exclusively a test of individual fictions. It was introduced as a measure of the watchworthiness of individual films, and is consistently applied to individual fictions thereafter as one metric by which to judge them.
That said, Shadow and Robot are both consistently referred to as "he", and while many of their conversations have been about Kat, they are occasionally shown having brief, one or two sentence exchanges about only each other.
Also all the girls have pointed ears, while the guys have rounded ones. So the girls are likely all ex fairies and the guys are from some other place, not all of them have to be animals though, In this comic www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=321 Red just says they were "a bunch of different stuff"
Do we have "word of god" that Kat isn't gay? Cuz she totally reads that way, and has for a while now.
I don't really care which way Tom goes with this - there's a lot of potential for awesomeness and awkward hilarity either way.
On a meta level, I think webcomics are doing a decent job at portraying gay characters. I was going to write how I think gay men are still underrepresented (or when they are present, are only for comic relief), but I think that isn't even so much the case anymore.
She's had a (intense) crush one at least one guy, been quite flustered at the sight of another guy shirtless, and had crushes on zero girls so far.
In other words, Kat is thinking about making a cyborg out of S13. Who seems to be developing a slightly disturbing fixation on her. What could possibly go wrong! :p
People keep saying "cyborg", but I don't think that's it. Kat's previous "exploded diagrams" have been her thinking about how to replicate biology with metal. I don't think she's trying to integrate cells and electronics . . . I think she's trying to make electronics that work like cells do.
I'll admit, Jack jumped to mind immediately - especially with the little 'clearing throat' gesture at the beginning. Another way to not ingratiate himself to Kat?
Jack and Robot's speech bubbles are very similar in color (Robot's has a hue of 120, Jack of 117). This robot's speech bubble, though, isn't quite either one of them (it's 123, closer to Robot than Jack).