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Post by Mr Pitchfork on May 14, 2010 21:19:02 GMT
*shrug* Girl in traditional male role. Note also the short hair. Excuse me, but where on Earth do you get away with saying something like this? Oh, Texas. I see. Yeah, because being emotional and feeling insecure are faults of the inferior sex, I suppose, and arise from them trying to mimic masculine roles. Whatever. I'm not sure whether this is ironic. Is this ironic? It's still pretty funny though. Optern, you are putting words in the bandit's mouth, and accusing him of sexism while you are treating Texans unfairly by generalizing them. I know these things, for I am male and, generally, possess greater mental faculties than that of the large majority of females. Winky face.
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Post by wanderer on May 14, 2010 22:40:05 GMT
Ignoring all the arguments, this is probably a good thing. Jones is probably the person best suited to deal with the problem that Jack represents, and the situation Annie has found herself in. She is most likely to listen to (and UNDERSTAND) the whole picture, and she seems most capable of efficiently and accurately dedicating the proper resources to deal with the problem. She is more likely than any other authority figure at the court to have some idea of what's going on and how to handle it.
That's not to say she'll handle things the most compassionate way (I suspect Annie is more likely to be punished with Jones in charge than with either of the other two) but she WILL handle things, if anyone can.
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Post by thelizard on May 14, 2010 22:43:02 GMT
As someone said in the comments, Jones never fails to make an impression.
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Post by Mr Pitchfork on May 14, 2010 22:44:48 GMT
Isn't Jones just a "visitor" to the Court? I got the impression that she wasn't actually Court staff.
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Post by Mezzaphor on May 14, 2010 22:54:46 GMT
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Post by todd on May 14, 2010 22:59:08 GMT
Jones has also closed the door on Reynardine being taken away from Annie.
The reason (probably the only reason) why the Court hasn't confiscated Reynardine is that by doing so, they'd break Annie's ownership, thus allowing Reynardine to escape from the doll and possess someone else. Despite that, I suspect that the teachers aren't too keen on that - Annie was already led astray once by Reynardine (when he tricked her into thinking him a noble Rogat Orjak being persecuted and mistreated by a bullying dragon-slayer), and they even think that she was led astray twice (since they think that he's responsible for the bridge incident); he could easily trick her again, they think, and she's not as familiar with his schemes as they are (and might even be blinded because of his connection with her mother).
Jack's trap had given the school the opportunity to confiscate Reynardine without the drawback of freeing him (since the trap would keep him from breaking free, and they could probably find some way of transferring him to a safe holding cell from there without giving him the opportunity to escape into someone else with eyes along the way) - and now Jones, by setting him free, has removed that opportunity. Without even hesitating, I might add (so far as we know). Another hint, perhaps, of Jones not following the Court's agenda but her own mysterious agenda (whatever that is)?
Certainly we've seen enough of Jones to know that she doesn't side with the Court - at least, not entirely. Her remarks about the conflict between the Court and the Wood indicate that she takes an impartial view of it, noting both sides' faults equally. (Note, also, that she was in favor of Annie visiting Coyote, which Eglamore - and presumably the rest of the Court staff - was uneasy about.) I suspect that she only resides in Gunnerkrigg because she has to stay *somewhere* while monitoring events in Gunnerkrigg and Gillitie - and since she appears human, she has more hope of staying in the Court than in the Wood. (Clearly staying there has not biased her towards the Court.)
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Post by elppa284 on May 15, 2010 1:02:54 GMT
Ah Jones-I love how she stands out so much, with her white suit of awesomeness
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Post by spacemilk on May 15, 2010 1:29:07 GMT
Doing my first post from my phone so please excuse any errors!
What's interesting to me is that Rey and Coyote don't know what Jones is... but Parley seems to take some of Jones' skills for granted (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=383) though she doesn't say what Jones is.
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Post by djublonskopf on May 15, 2010 1:45:54 GMT
Wow didn't realize there had come to be so much drama in this forum . . .. What's interesting to me is that Rey and Coyote don't know what Jones is... but Parley seems to take some of Jones' skills for granted (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=383) though she doesn't say what Jones is. Spacemilk, that's an interesting point, and something that I didn't notice before. Perhaps Parley knows something?
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Post by wanderer on May 15, 2010 1:47:54 GMT
Isn't Jones just a "visitor" to the Court? I got the impression that she wasn't actually Court staff. They seemed to clearly respect and value her opinion in the meeting with Coyote and Ysengrin. Also her level of access to the Court is not something I'd expect an outsider to be given, although that is subjective. But with the level of knowledge she has about the Court and everything else, and the level of respect she gets from various people in the Court, she effectively has a good deal of authority, whether or not she holds any actual position in the Court.
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Post by Fhqwhgads on May 15, 2010 3:14:28 GMT
This was the very first time in this long, long, slightly putrid thread that I laughed outright. Thank you sir.
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Post by Zayzie on May 15, 2010 4:44:57 GMT
I find the discussion on Jones rather interesting. I have a thought of what might have happened to her. Remember those tests? From becoming a creature of the forest to a human being in the court, and vice versa? Perhaps she is a creature from the court, or a robot who could actually take one of those tests and somehow became human? I know its a bit of a stretch, but considering how human the court robots actually are I wouldn't put it past her. She might have also been a very strong presence in the forest, like Coyote and Ysengrin, that became human. Reynardine doesn't know what Jones is, and he believes that even Coyote doesn't know. If she was a creature from the forest who undertook the test, Coyote would have known what she transformed into since presumably he's the one who makes those transformations take place. Well I didn't realize Coyote was in charge of the tests, but I hadn't had it in mind that the test was exactly the same, since I suggested a robot to human test. So in that case, someone could have tried to imitate these tests, and did it with Jones. I never said she came from the forest, but that maybe she's some other force, or presence that is hard to understand. That she underwent a similar test, but by a different power or force. Which is why I suggested maybe a robot turned human-like, somehow, and that it involved some sort of test-not exactly coyote's test. Because there is more to the world than just the court vs. the forest. There's the ghosts and that Owl guy (totally forgot his name, and those birds. Also, if Jones was an android I would think Coyote, Rey or Ysengrin would know, or smell the metal, which leads me to believe she was probably formed out of some weird unearthly circumstance. She's always struck me as someone who was never really alive, or never really dead, and that when the time came to replace her she would kind of just fade away.
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Post by unctuous on May 15, 2010 6:38:41 GMT
But Brinnie only appeared on-stage in Chapter Twenty-two, disappeared only a few pages in (heading back to Valhalla, apparently), and has had no role in the present-day part of the story. I was always under the assumption that Brinnie was to somehow be related to Gamma? There aren't any other main characters who have multiple eyelid creases or the same similarity. The picture has the creases too, but Jones always has smooth eyelids, even in shots where her eyes are half-closed. Man, I'm looking forward to the next page...
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Post by nimue on May 15, 2010 7:03:48 GMT
Woah!!! So Jones can manipulate matter???
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Post by Snes on May 15, 2010 7:10:36 GMT
Spacemilk, that's an interesting point, and something that I didn't notice before. Perhaps Parley knows something? My guess is that it's just personal experience talking. She must have seen Jones in action before then. But I doubt Jones would have let Parley in on any deep secrets.
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Post by Mr Pitchfork on May 15, 2010 7:14:51 GMT
Woah!!! So Jones can manipulate matter??? Yeah but so can William.
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Post by tyler on May 15, 2010 8:36:57 GMT
Jones is a techno-shamanistic golem.
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Post by TBeholder on May 15, 2010 9:41:25 GMT
Let me turn the question around: What do you think is more likely, the guards helping a girl putting on a damsel-in-distress act, or a girl urgently and genuinely seeking assistance? I recently discovered that most of those hu-mans don't have any telepathic power whatsoever. Yeah, i know, it's strange. *shrug* Girl in traditional male role. Note also the short hair. Excuse me, but where on Earth do you get away with saying something like this? Probably, any not-yet-colonized part of the Earth where no one bothered to disallow mentions of old human cultures and h.sapiens physiology. I'm not sure whether this is ironic. Is this ironic? Probably just a reflectory response that's good to keep down already bent heads but alerts everyone it wasn't supposed to be used on. So I find it pretty ironic that you'd attempt to disparage someone as purportedly demeaning womankind based on the fact that they're from Texas. Don't take this personally. It's a very blanket issue. The specifics of native history just doesn't matter, you see. Rotarians aren't pioneers, so while peeking outside of the developed land they say funny but incautious things like that. In many places in this country, the men defend their women. In Texas, we arm them. Resistance is futile. You will be assimi lated. Question: why are people assuming concrete? It's more likely to be a thick coat of plaster. Maybe. But after the sword-bouncing episode it may be concrete just as well. 1. Older building, by the decay & design. Pre-drywall, if the concept even exists. 2. I've never seen concrete walls fracture quite like that. I saw. Sometimes (in wet places) old concrete ages almost like plaster. It's still used, so we could expect them to keep it in a better condition, but this applies both ways. 3. Wiring is harder to do with solid walls - so it's hidden above drop ceilings, or protected inside pipes with relatively easy access. Which have been shown in other areas, but not this hall. (looking at the nearby wall where an outlet is placed exacly where an outlet on the other side is, for some reason) hmm, funny thing... Also, in other looks this hall is rather big-and-rough place, exactly where one would expect naked concrete walls. 4. Why you you want to transport that much more material across a lake if you could avoid it? (shrug) They weren't obliged to use a boat. Or could just fill the pond later. After all, the station noticeably drained it in a single cycle. "Jones Ex Machina", indeed.
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Post by monkmunk on May 15, 2010 13:48:00 GMT
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Post by Mezzaphor on May 15, 2010 16:31:44 GMT
But Brinnie only appeared on-stage in Chapter Twenty-two, disappeared only a few pages in (heading back to Valhalla, apparently), and has had no role in the present-day part of the story. I was always under the assumption that Brinnie was to somehow be related to Gamma? There aren't any other main characters who have multiple eyelid creases or the same similarity. The picture has the creases too, but Jones always has smooth eyelids, even in shots where her eyes are half-closed. Man, I'm looking forward to the next page... A while ago, back before we knew who Brinnie was, Tom said that she's not related to Gamma in any way.
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Post by cheddarius on May 15, 2010 17:05:01 GMT
All humans are related. Therefore, one or the other is nonhuman, at least in the sense of being related to a common ancestor. Clearly, Tom meant that Gamma was a space alien planted on Earth to observe our plans.
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Post by Mr Pitchfork on May 15, 2010 17:06:17 GMT
This was the very first time in this long, long, slightly putrid thread that I laughed outright. Thank you sir. This is reassuring, but I'm still kinda scared the winky face didn't make things clear enough.
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Post by TBeholder on May 15, 2010 18:32:17 GMT
This was the very first time in this long, long, slightly putrid thread that I laughed outright. Thank you sir. but I'm still kinda scared the winky face didn't make things clear enough. That is, online Turing test? Fond memories, fond memories...
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Post by wanderer on May 15, 2010 19:42:42 GMT
All humans are related. Therefore, one or the other is nonhuman, at least in the sense of being related to a common ancestor. Clearly, Tom meant that Gamma was a space alien planted on Earth to observe our plans. But Brinnie ISN'T human. That seems to collapse your impecable logic right there.
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Post by hal9000 on May 15, 2010 22:18:10 GMT
Jones is a techno-shamanistic golem. Jones is an alien from the planet krypton.
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Post by Per on May 15, 2010 23:05:50 GMT
Jones is an escaped self-insert from a piece of fiction in the Gunnerverse.
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Post by Ignotus Somnium on May 15, 2010 23:26:09 GMT
Jones is not a robot--she is two short robots in a human suit, with one standing on the other's shoulders.
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Post by tyler on May 16, 2010 1:04:38 GMT
Doctor Disaster built Jones. /nod
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Post by cptn1999 on May 16, 2010 3:27:14 GMT
Snazzy white suit? Check. Unflappable demeanor? Check. Awesome power? Check. Apparently indestructible? Check. The mysteries of TWO webcomics are solved in a single instant! Jones is Airman Higgs! www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20100222 ;D
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Post by djublonskopf on May 16, 2010 4:25:29 GMT
Jones is not a robot--she is two short robots in a human suit, with one standing on the other's shoulders. That WOULD make her twice as strong as any other court robot . . ..
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