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Post by legion on Mar 15, 2010 12:25:59 GMT
EDIT: Also, is Kat's huffiness an excuse for her not to be in a storyline, or a setup for her to be in a storyline where she has to accept that Jack's actually an okay guy? Or possibly the setup for Jack and Kat hating each other until a burning love develops (but I'm not rating this last one as very likely)? Now I will have that song stuck in the head all day long :3
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Post by optern on Mar 15, 2010 12:35:52 GMT
I think perhaps Rey is really the one he seeks, but knows he is only available through Annie.
I expect the ethereal spider has grown and Jack needs help to kill or otherwise rid himself of it. Or maybe it has reproduced and there are many small spiders now.
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Post by Midnight Meadows on Mar 15, 2010 13:05:10 GMT
Man, I understand the apprehensiveness because "oh noes this is the most obvious trap of some kind ever"
But..... Annie has the friggin COYOTE TOOTH SWORD. I mean, come on. Anybody, etheric monster or not, tries to mess with her, she can rend them in half with one slice.
Easy. Done. Let's go out for burgers.
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Post by cannedbreadmaker on Mar 15, 2010 14:22:51 GMT
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Post by nikita on Mar 15, 2010 14:38:17 GMT
We know Jack's habit of wandering around the court. He might have found out about Rey's prison and the eye symbol.
However my guess is that he just wants to talk and understand what's going on. Annie can't help with that - she was just as shocked by Zimmingham as he was. I agree with optern: Reynardine might know something.
Also: Yeah - by now Annie is equipped with lots of stuff to defend herself against just about anything.
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Post by linnabean on Mar 15, 2010 14:40:41 GMT
I think that Jack writing "bring the wolf" is, as Fen said, a demand. It almost makes me think that the purpose of this meet is to talk to both Reynardine and Annie, not just Annie Also, not digging Kat's hair as I'm currently having the same problems. Bobby pins, girl! edit: I think perhaps Rey is really the one he seeks, but knows he is only available through Annie.. Agreed, exactly what I was trying to say.
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Post by Afalstein on Mar 15, 2010 14:45:18 GMT
Well... my guess about the paper was off. Man, I understand the apprehensiveness because "oh noes this is the most obvious trap of some kind ever" But..... Annie has the friggin COYOTE TOOTH SWORD. I mean, come on. Anybody, etheric monster or not, tries to mess with her, she can rend them in half with one slice. Easy. Done. Let's go out for burgers. True, but even Reynardine is scared of Zimmy, it seems. Jack may not quite be as developed as she she is, but he may be pretty formidable. And I DO find it somewhat disturbing that the "Spring-heeled Jack" of legend was reputed for attacking two teenage girls. Despite that, though, I don't think he's actually up to anything. From all appearances, Jack has been going through a lot and needs help. Annie certainly is the person to handle that best, as a matter of fact I've been waiting for her to address the Jack issue. The special request to bring Reynardine probably stems from something he needs Reynardine's help for, though I wonder if he knows what Reynardine actually is. It doesn't really seem to be in a reassuring tone, like "if you want," it's a demand. Given Jack's slightly... deranged nature, is he afraid he might go psycho and attack Annie? And therefore wants "the big wolf" to keep his spider in line? Kat's attitude toward Jack is understandable. She's been on his case since Residential, and even before then she was mad at him for scaring Annie.
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 15, 2010 15:33:59 GMT
Man, I understand the apprehensiveness because "oh noes this is the most obvious trap of some kind ever" But..... Annie has the friggin COYOTE TOOTH SWORD. I mean, come on. Anybody, etheric monster or not, tries to mess with her, she can rend them in half with one slice. Easy. Done. Let's go out for burgers. Let's go out, let's go out... Why? She got a pocket grill, remember?..
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Post by Kuraru on Mar 15, 2010 16:10:05 GMT
I like Kat's hair; it is nice and long.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 15, 2010 17:36:50 GMT
I imagine any note that I passed to a girl would have been discarded with a combination of laughter and revulsion; this is probably what Jack should have suspected. In my high school if there was any romantic drama the vast majority of females would arrange to have front-row seats for the action even if they thought the guy would get shot down. They were not above hiding in bushes. My main thought was that I'm surprised Kat didn't say "me too" like she has in the past. Since Kat didn't offer to come along the only thing I can think of is that Kat is assuming the meet is romantic. I suppose another possibility is that Kat doesn't want to encourage Antimony to show up. If Antimony announces that she's going THEN Kat will offer to go with her. We know Jack's habit of wandering around the court. He might have found out about Rey's prison and the eye symbol. However my guess is that he just wants to talk and understand what's going on. Annie can't help with that - she was just as shocked by Zimmingham as he was. I agree with optern: Reynardine might know something. Also: Yeah - by now Annie is equipped with lots of stuff to defend herself against just about anything. There must be easier places they could privately meet to talk. If Jack actually wants "the wolf" there for a reason other than making Antimony more comfortable and willing to show up, it could be that he wants Antimony to show up packing all her mojo. If so, maybe Jack wants Antimony to help him explore the mysterious power station?
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Post by violet on Mar 15, 2010 18:29:27 GMT
I missed Kat! I hope Annie ropes her into coming. Or, possibly cooler, I hope she tags along unseen (by Jack, not us). Like a ninja. An anti-gravity ninja. Really? In... hair? I can't see a difference between Kat here and in today's page. Except, y'know. Hair. Longer. Hm, at least Rey's there to protect her... or has Jack found a way to foil him? I am not sanguine as to the notion that Reynardine will be of substantial help should Jack's intentions (or the consequences thereof) prove deleterious. Particularly as Jack asked for him specifically. But..... Annie has the friggin COYOTE TOOTH SWORD. I mean, come on. Anybody, etheric monster or not, tries to mess with her, she can rend them in half with one slice. Use a gift from Coyote! Nothing could possibly go wrong here!
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Post by nar on Mar 15, 2010 18:38:09 GMT
My main thought was that I'm surprised Kat didn't say 'me too' like she has in the past. Since Kat didn't offer to come along the only thing I can think of is that Kat is assuming the meet is romantic. I suppose another possibility is that Kat doesn't want to encourage Antimony to show up. If Antimony announces that she's going THEN Kat will offer to go with her. I'd say the second one. I really don't think Kat's worried about romance so much as she is worried about Jack being a creep who insulted her friend. But I agree that Kat won't actually let Annie go on her own. There must be easier places they could privately meet to talk. If Jack actually wants "the wolf" there for a reason other than making Antimony more comfortable and willing to show up, it could be that he wants Antimony to show up packing all her mojo. If so, maybe Jack wants Antimony to help him explore the mysterious power station? Jack's always put the blame for sending him to Zimmingham squarely on Zimmy, though. He could just have picked it as an out-of-the-way place that he knows she knows how to get to. 'Bring all your mojo' sounds about right, though, since he's probably bringing a knife.I agree with optern: Reynardine might know something. It's possible that Rey does know more about Zimmy than he's letting on, but how would Jack know that? All Jack knows about Rey is that sometimes Carver has a large wolf with her. He may not even have realised that Rey is intelligent. Of course, that's assuming he hasn't checked out an Encyclopedia of Etheric Stuff in the meantime.
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Post by Mishmash on Mar 15, 2010 18:54:27 GMT
The expressions on both the girls in panel 5 are brilliant, I spent ages just looking at them and admiring Tom's work! Also I like the fashionable way Kat is dressing, with that nice blue coat and the long fringe. It really shows how much more grown up she is than the lonely 12 year old we met at the start of the comic.
I'm surprised everyone is debating whether Jack really wants to see Annie or Reynardine, but no one seems to be interested in the location. The fact we are going to see the mysterious lake again is what has me excited to see the next few pages!
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Post by 5lizak on Mar 15, 2010 19:12:58 GMT
If Jack wants help, Annie might refuse if using the blinker stone means she becomes defenseless. Annie can banish Zimmy's dark reflections (Jack may suspect this?), and is able to see the spiders with etheric means via her blinker stone (Jack may suspect this also, given the displayed paranoia after he was spotted by Annie while handling the blinker stone). However, if doing so makes her helpless, she might not cooperate. Having Rey there would give her a measure of security. Alternately: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ObviousTrap
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Post by warrl on Mar 15, 2010 19:34:27 GMT
If Jack wants help, Annie might refuse if using the blinker stone means she becomes defenseless. Annie can banish Zimmy's dark reflections (Jack may suspect this?), and is able to see the spiders with etheric means via her blinker stone (Jack may suspect this also, given the displayed paranoia after he was spotted by Annie while handling the blinker stone). Depending on how much time has passed since the last chapter (and specifically how she's doing on sword-training), Annie is quite possibly the one person in the Court who is the furthest from defenseless in the etherium. Of course, probably not many people know about Coyote's Tooth. Perhaps even Eglamore doesn't know what it is.
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 15, 2010 19:44:00 GMT
Kat is going to be there anyway. Annie probably still cannot hack local security on her own.
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Post by wynne on Mar 15, 2010 19:47:58 GMT
Since Kat's being all protective the the note never asks Annie and Reynardine to come alone, I bet Kat will end up coming. And it's probably not a big scary trap... that's not really Tom's style.
As for Annie defending Zimmy, well, that was a pretty harsh comment on Rey's part. If Zimmy's really that dangerous (which I'll admit is definitely possible, even if Zimmy wishes it weren't), Rey ought to have stood up and said something a long while ago.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 15, 2010 19:54:04 GMT
I'm surprised everyone is debating whether Jack really wants to see Annie or Reynardine, but no one seems to be interested in the location. The fact we are going to see the mysterious lake again is what has me excited to see the next few pages! Oi! I brought it up as being an odd choice for just a conversation. As big and vacant as the Court is I'm sure Jack could've found a closer spot. What do we know about the place? It's a tall and isolated building that must be pretty far from the school area. You get a great view of the power station from there. I was thinking it'd be a good place to plan the infiltration of the power plant from, but Nar has a point as well. The roof of that place would be ideal if Spring-Heeled Jack wanted to call someone out. The roof access door would be an easy escape route to block, and jumping off probably wouldn't bother Spring-Heel much but may be fatal to someone else. So he could escape easily if need be but someone else could be trapped there. It's far enough from the Court that help would be slow to arrive, too.
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Post by wanderer on Mar 15, 2010 19:58:35 GMT
Personally I'd suggest bringing along Kat, Anja, Eglamore, and Jones for backup, but of course Annie won't even think of getting the adults involved.
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Post by Casey on Mar 15, 2010 20:14:25 GMT
...jumping off probably wouldn't bother Spring-Heel much but may be fatal to someone else. So he could escape easily if need be but someone else could be trapped there. Uh, we ARE talking about the kid who fell on his ass from hopping down five steps, are we not?
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Post by violet on Mar 15, 2010 20:26:33 GMT
Personally I'd suggest bringing along Kat, Anja, Eglamore, and Jones for backup, but of course Annie won't even think of getting the adults involved. I don't know what that would accomplish. If she believes he poses a credible and serious threat and she wants to stay safe, she doesn't have to go. If she goes at all, it's to help Jack. Scaring him away won't do that.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 15, 2010 20:27:48 GMT
Since Kat's being all protective the the note never asks Annie and Reynardine to come alone, I bet Kat will end up coming. And it's probably not a big scary trap... that's not really Tom's style. I don't think anything terrible will actually happen to Antimony but she gets into dangerous spots regularly. She sometimes gets threatented. Once she even got hurt.
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 15, 2010 20:32:39 GMT
...jumping off probably wouldn't bother Spring-Heel much but may be fatal to someone else. So he could escape easily if need be but someone else could be trapped there. Uh, we ARE talking about the kid who fell on his ass from hopping down five steps, are we not? Exactly, Jack's not gained any super powers, other than the ability to not sleep very well, and of course having a creepy grin. I'm not sure where people have got the idea from, probably wishful thinking
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 15, 2010 20:37:22 GMT
...jumping off probably wouldn't bother Spring-Heel much but may be fatal to someone else. So he could escape easily if need be but someone else could be trapped there. Uh, we ARE talking about the kid who fell on his ass from hopping down five steps, are we not? Oh, I don't think Jack Hyland is the famous Spring-Heel Jack. He's not old enough. However, he is a student here for a reason. Maybe he's just the son of an alumni. Maybe he's the descendant of Spring-Heel or has similar powers. Maybe he slipped and fell because he was using magic to make his body light for jumping and he didn't have enough control. Or maybe he fell because he's just getting really, really reckless. It remains to be seen. I'm just saying that Nar is right if he or she is saying that building would be a good place for Spring-Heel to call someone out. Also: Bear in mind the title of the chapter and that Jack Hyland just jumped out a window that the people chasing him didn't want to follow him through.
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Post by wanderer on Mar 15, 2010 20:54:46 GMT
Personally I'd suggest bringing along Kat, Anja, Eglamore, and Jones for backup, but of course Annie won't even think of getting the adults involved. I don't know what that would accomplish. If she believes he poses a credible and serious threat and she wants to stay safe, she doesn't have to go. If she goes at all, it's to help Jack. Scaring him away won't do that. Keep them hidden in the background, but were I in her position I would much prefer to have some experienced backup on hand.
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Post by idonotlikepeas on Mar 15, 2010 20:59:41 GMT
Also: Bear in mind the title of the chapter and that Jack Hyland just jumped out a window that the people chasing him didn't want to follow him through. I think that his general physical condition is meant to imply that he (or whatever is controlling him) doesn't much care what happens to him. He's free to jump out windows because the idea of twisting his ankle doesn't bother him that much.
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Post by nar on Mar 15, 2010 21:58:34 GMT
I was really just thinking that because it's a way away from the dormitories and nobody else is going to be hanging out there in the middle of the night. (Plus, you know, it's high up and maybe this is all a ridiculously circuitous plan to push her out of a window.)
Oh, and another reason for it I just thought of: Annie's been there once, so she just about knows how to get there. Jack's probably been there more often than that, so he'll know the quick ways out (by which I mean fire escapes) while she won't, should any problems come up. Home turf advantage, you know?
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Post by wombat on Mar 15, 2010 22:11:30 GMT
I really like Annie's top. I keep trying to come up with possible motives for Jack, and my thoughts keep wandering to "That is a cute top." Ususally clothes don't particularly concern me, but... yeah.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 15, 2010 22:28:28 GMT
I was really just thinking that because it's a way away from the dormitories and nobody else is going to be hanging out there in the middle of the night. (Plus, you know, it's high up and maybe this is all a ridiculously circuitous plan to push her out of a window.) Ah, when you wrote that bit about how "'bring all your mojo' sounds about right, though, since he's probably bringing a knife" I thought you were thinking the "bring the Wolf" note might be an invitation to settle their differences old-school. Then after the attitude adjustment Antimony could tell Jack everything she knows about Zimmy. I gotta say: If Antimony was a guy and got the same note under similar circumstances then I'd assume it was an invitation to a fight. I don't think that's the case but it'd be an interesting twist if it turns out that's what Jack's thinking.
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Post by Mishmash on Mar 15, 2010 22:28:48 GMT
Speaking of clothes, I like Annie's jeans! Have we seen her wearing trousers before? (with the exception of when they were camping of course). It gives her a more teenage look, like what I was saying about Kat earlier.
Man I am being such a girl today, sorry.
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