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Post by Rgemini on Jan 21, 2010 12:27:29 GMT
I am not convinced that Ysengrin is so weak that he does not pose a threat to Annie. I am curious what Coyote means with 'stand thine ground'. Basic canine body language. Be calm and vour own master, stand your ground, avoid touching, avoid eye contact, let the canine come to you and smell you. Don't run - whether Ys could chase Annie or not, even elderly canines can run faster than humans, and their teeth are at your back.
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Post by haggidubious on Jan 21, 2010 14:18:56 GMT
I am not convinced that Ysengrin is so weak that he does not pose a threat to Annie. I am curious what Coyote means with 'stand thine ground'. Basic canine body language. Be calm and vour own master, stand thine ground, avoid touching, avoid eye contact, let the canine come to you and smell you. Don't run - whether Ys could chase Annie or not, even elderly canines can run faster than humans, and their teeth are at thine back. ^Exactly. I think we're about to learn a lot about Ysengrin's true nature under pressure. We're already pretty confident Annie's not the type to go to pieces. And I reckon Coyote has timed this all very carefully for Annie's benefit...it's an exam.
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Post by fjodor on Jan 21, 2010 15:11:48 GMT
Basic canine body language. Be calm and vour own master, stand thine ground, avoid touching, avoid eye contact, let the canine come to you and smell you. Don't run - whether Ys could chase Annie or not, even elderly canines can run faster than humans, and their teeth are at thine back. ^Exactly. I think we're about to learn a lot about Ysengrin's true nature under pressure. We're already pretty confident Annie's not the type to go to pieces. And I reckon Coyote has timed this all very carefully for Annie's benefit...it's an exam. You are probably right. But I hope someone told Y it's an exam. Especially since he's hungry...
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Post by quats on Jan 22, 2010 0:48:20 GMT
And there's the trickster... Well if she manages this situation, and I'm sure she does, she will probably get a better relationship to Ysengrin. It might actually be the only way that is possible, he's not very warm and cuddly otherwise. I bet he'll get angry and defensive in the beginning but if she get's his confidence a lot of good might come of this. I would really, really doubt this. Would you suddenly warm up to someone you disliked who accidentally walked in while you were on the toilet? You'd probably downright hate them for embarassing you! Something else might occur -- Tom usually comes up with interesting and completely unexpected twists so my brain boggles *trying* to speculate.
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Post by King Mir on Jan 22, 2010 1:17:08 GMT
I had assumed that stand your ground meant "don't let me knock you over", but reading some posts here makes me realize that he probably meant it as advice on what to do now.
Coyote's primary objective here is obviously his own amusement. I wonder what else he wants to achieve. What is he going to teach Annie?
Is it to stand up for herself? How to face off with a wolf?
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Post by Chrome on Jan 22, 2010 6:46:34 GMT
Probably just teaching her how to deal with other beings of the forest besides Coyote himself. Remember Jones talks about how the forest animals communicate dominace via posturing and alpha-behavior? If she's to meet other animals of the forest besides Coyote, she needs to know how to deal with those who may be more hostile to a human intruding upon them.
Once again, I gotta mention: Not all the spirits, animals, or weird etheric creatures Annie meets are going to be friendly to her. She's been pretty lucky thus far. She might as well learn how to deal with a tricky situation.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 22, 2010 10:39:55 GMT
In one story I read Coyote was given his powers by the Great Spirit so that he would preserve the correct relationship of wonder humans should have toward the old people (animal gods). Maybe with this trick Coyote is not only helping Antimony mature as a person and a medium but being a sort of medium himself. He's forcing an interaction that wouldn't have happened by Antimony's free will, one that will change how the rest of the story progresses.
By the way, I suspect that might be Coyote's secret. It might also be what Mort's important job as a ghost is, the preserving of wonder for humans and all that.
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Post by Uncle Putte on Jan 22, 2010 11:05:26 GMT
Oh naggit-dabbit-daggit-nabbit-gabbit-naggit-dagnabbit-COYOOOOTEEEEEEEE!
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Post by todd on Jan 22, 2010 11:49:38 GMT
Once again, I gotta mention: Not all the spirits, animals, or weird etheric creatures Annie meets are going to be friendly to her. She's been pretty lucky thus far. I've thought the same thing. Indeed, I suspect that much of Annie's calm, matter-of-fact response to etheric beings - most prominent in the early chapters - stemmed from all of her early encounters (before "Reynardine") being with friendly ones (the Guides, Shadow2, Basil), so she assumed that they were all like that. (She seems more cautious these days - perhaps having learned from such experiences as Reynardine's attempt to possess her and Jeanne and Ysengrin's attacks.)
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