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Post by todd on Jan 11, 2010 23:20:52 GMT
I tend to think it's the latter. I like that Tom was willing to update and improve Eglamore's look even though some fans didn't recognize Eglamore and Tom still to this day makes comments to the effect of "This is Eglamore". The price of doing a long-running comic with a group of regulars and recurring characters. (Though I don't think that "Gunnerkrigg Court" would have worked well as an anthology series like "The Twilight Zone" with a different cast and setting in each story.) Mind you, I suspect that some of those "I don't recognize Eglamore" remarks are jokes. (It's hard to tell whether a comment is meant to be serious or not when it appears on the page or the screen without a tone of voice to accompany it.)
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Post by warrl on Jan 11, 2010 23:28:38 GMT
Mind you, I suspect that some of those "I don't recognize Eglamore" remarks are jokes. (It's hard to tell whether a comment is meant to be serious or not when it appears on the page or the screen without a tone of voice to accompany it.) Absolutely, the large majority of them are jokes NOW. They are in response to Tom pointing out that it's Eglamore. Which he started doing because, early on, there apparently was some actual confusion. Heck, now a third of the comments are on the order of "who's the pink haired girl?" or "okay, the green elf guy is Eglamore and the tall dude is Coyote in disguise"...
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Post by ding on Jan 11, 2010 23:32:44 GMT
Oh man, you can just imagine what Eglamore's going through here - surrogate daughter gone off into the magical wood arm-in-arm with the foremost trickster god. It's going to be a looooooooooooooong wait at the edge...
Also: Hooray for Coyote!
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Post by warrl on Jan 12, 2010 0:21:12 GMT
arm-in-arm with the foremost trickster god Apparently, Eglamore doesn't know that Jolly is Coyote. Eggo thinks Annie is going off with some sort of prancing elf-thing.
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Post by Amethyst on Jan 12, 2010 0:34:54 GMT
The thing under Egger's eye is a black emo tear.
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Post by Seth Thresher on Jan 12, 2010 0:49:41 GMT
So wait, who's that tree in the background? I don't recognize it.
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Post by Tierra Y Libertad on Jan 12, 2010 4:36:14 GMT
I wonder why Coyote has disguised himself so.
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Post by quats on Jan 12, 2010 5:07:04 GMT
I reckon he's possessed Jolly, rather than turning into him. That panel does look very like all the pictures we saw of animals possessed by Coyote. Watch this be the case... and Jolly turns out to be some crochety old gramps of an elf once Coyote leaves.
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Post by Casey on Jan 12, 2010 5:09:06 GMT
I wonder why Coyote has disguised himself so. To answer this, I will direct you to bisected8's perfect post on the subject, found here.
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Post by helveticascenario on Jan 12, 2010 5:49:15 GMT
Annie looks WAY too enthused. Wonder what she's got on her mind.
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Post by violet on Jan 12, 2010 6:22:24 GMT
Annie looks WAY too enthused. Wonder what she's got on her mind. AnnieXCoyote???
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Post by Mezzaphor on Jan 12, 2010 9:24:45 GMT
Mind you, I suspect that some of those "I don't recognize Eglamore" remarks are jokes. (It's hard to tell whether a comment is meant to be serious or not when it appears on the page or the screen without a tone of voice to accompany it.) Absolutely, the large majority of them are jokes NOW. They are in response to Tom pointing out that it's Eglamore. Which he started doing because, early on, there apparently was some actual confusion. Yes. This thread is where it all started, I believe.
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Post by popo on Jan 12, 2010 10:16:42 GMT
I feel so ashamed.
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Post by candlejack on Jan 12, 2010 13:35:40 GMT
Poor Eglamore... You gotta feel sorry for the poor sap.
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Post by Rasselas on Jan 12, 2010 14:52:33 GMT
Something occurs to me. Of all the adults she could've confided in, Anja, Donald, Jones... after hearing the story of Jeanne, she goes to a friggin' trickster god of the Forest. It makes perfect sense story-wise, as well as Jones' remark to come when the complete story was unveiled. But Annie! That could be dangerous! I understand, though. No adventurous girl has ever been held back by a little danger. Mischievous Annie.
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Post by sinewmire on Jan 12, 2010 15:16:18 GMT
I'd imagine after the relevation abot Jeanne, Annie is feeling a lot happier about Gillitie than the Court at the moment.
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Post by Per on Jan 12, 2010 15:18:46 GMT
Annie does seem to perk up around Coyote. Unclear whether it's because of his charisma, her being more comfortable around supernatural creatures, or both.
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Post by quats on Jan 12, 2010 18:55:51 GMT
Annie looks WAY too enthused. Wonder what she's got on her mind. She looks less "enthused" to me, than "trying to keep a straight face in front of Eglamore so he doesn't suspect anything". Happy surprise to see Coyote at first, yes (if only as someone she trusts more than random_mildly_pervy_prancing_elf) but the next panel is a bit of a fixed grin with a bit more "determined" eyebrows as she drags him off.
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Post by Mylian on Jan 12, 2010 19:03:45 GMT
Annie looks WAY too enthused. Wonder what she's got on her mind. She looks less "enthused" to me, than "trying to keep a straight face in front of Eglamore so he doesn't suspect anything". Happy surprise to see Coyote at first, yes (if only as someone she trusts more than random_mildly_pervy_prancing_elf) but the next panel is a bit of a fixed grin with a bit more "determined" eyebrows as she drags him off. This. She's trying not to laugh at Coyote's trick.
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Post by todd on Jan 12, 2010 23:27:07 GMT
Something occurs to me. Of all the adults she could've confided in, Anja, Donald, Jones... after hearing the story of Jeanne, she goes to a friggin' trickster god of the Forest. It makes perfect sense story-wise, as well as Jones' remark to come when the complete story was unveiled. But Annie! That could be dangerous! It fits her track record throughout the webcomic - always being more ready to ask questions from the etheric beings rather than from the human grown-ups. For example, she's trying to get the information out of Reynardine of what the connection was between him and Surma, rather than simply asking Anja or Eglamore about it. (I remember the theory that it comes from her days at Good Hope, where none of the grown-ups in the hospital - apart from Surma - could see the Guides, and so Annie could easily have come to see adults as not worth going to for help, as too clueless to be any use. The anonymous teacher in Chapter One who's no help in handling the Shadow2 situation clearly didn't make matters any better. And by the time that Annie discovers that a lot of the adults at the court - such as Anja, Eglamore, and Jones - *are* competent and knowledgeable, it's too late.)
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Post by Casey on Jan 13, 2010 7:32:07 GMT
I think it's simpler than that. I think she asks the questions of those that she thinks are likely to have the answers. It's certainly more efficient that way. I doubt, for example, that Anja or Eglamore would be able to answer the question about the connection between Surma and Reynardine, as well as Reynardine himself would be able to. Likewise with the situation with Diego and the like... Coyote could give her first-hand knowledge.
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Post by todd on Jan 13, 2010 11:54:59 GMT
Anja and James were Surma's close friends from childhood (as the photograph that Anja showed Annie made clear), and both were familiar with Reynardine and his tricks. That would make it at least reasonable that they knew something about the link between the two (though of course, I wouldn't be too surprised if Surma had kept the details of the link a secret).
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Post by Casey on Jan 13, 2010 17:51:16 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised either. However Reynardine can't lie to Annie, so as I said, he would be a better person to ask than Anja or Eglamore. And more to the point at hand, Coyote is probably the only one who has any additional information, if there is any, about the events of the last chapter, as he was there and all the Court records were expunged.
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Post by Neats on Jan 14, 2010 10:09:19 GMT
I think it's simpler than that. I think she asks the questions of those that she thinks are likely to have the answers. It's certainly more efficient that way. I doubt, for example, that Anja or Eglamore would be able to answer the question about the connection between Surma and Reynardine, as well as Reynardine himself would be able to. Likewise with the situation with Diego and the like... Coyote could give her first-hand knowledge. The adults are also more likely to keep certain things from her, and treat her as if she's too young to understand or handle more sensitive information.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Jan 14, 2010 20:56:21 GMT
I think it's simpler than that. I think she asks the questions of those that she thinks are likely to have the answers. It's certainly more efficient that way. I doubt, for example, that Anja or Eglamore would be able to answer the question about the connection between Surma and Reynardine, as well as Reynardine himself would be able to. Likewise with the situation with Diego and the like... Coyote could give her first-hand knowledge. The adults are also more likely to keep certain things from her, and treat her as if she's too young to understand or handle more sensitive information. How many times has that actually happened to Annie, her asking the adults for information and getting stonewalled? I can only think of two instances: - In "Questions and Answers", Annie asked Eglamore what happened to Robot. When asked if she knew the robot, Annie lied and said no; Eglamore, thinking that the robot was irrelevant to her, told her that it had been taken care of, and not to trouble herself any further on the matter. - In "The Medium Beginning", Annie implies that Jones doesn't seem to sympathize with the Court or the Wood, and Jones brushes off this line of thought as irrelevant. Besides that, the only reason that we've seen (to my knowledge) for the adults not providing information is because Annie hasn't been asking them. Given Annie's background, I can understand why she wouldn't trust the adults to help her, however.
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Post by todd on Jan 14, 2010 23:51:02 GMT
When asked if she knew the robot, Annie lied and said no. I've sometimes wondered why she did that. Fear of getting into even more trouble for sending Robot across the bridge with Shadow2 and into the forest? Or out of distrust of Eglamore (which she was already beginning to display in that scene)?
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Post by pgilman on Mar 21, 2010 23:34:53 GMT
panel 3 is outright genius.
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