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Post by clementine on Apr 21, 2009 1:12:35 GMT
DOGTREE. DOGTREE. DOGTREE.
Ahem.
My first instinct was that it was Rey, but that's definitely not right (no eyes). I agree that the situation seems like it should've come from the Court, because they seem to be far in it and the robots were really ready. Maybe it's some kind of proto-Ys-power. It's too uncannily lupine to have nothing to do with him.
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Post by Babble-jargon Bill on Apr 21, 2009 1:38:16 GMT
Perhaps the Court got a piece of his DNA at some point without him even knowing, in which case, I think we don't need to go into too much detail as to how they got a sample...
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Post by jptheboy on Apr 21, 2009 1:48:39 GMT
Ok I just joined for this conversation itself. 1) It is not Renard as many people have said, due to his only taking powers after falling in love with Surma. 2) In my opinion it is not Ysengrin either. I always had the impression that Renard was Coyote's favorite due to his also being a trickster (see www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=490). That page seems to say that Coyote came to find Renard and Ysengrin was an after thought. In away Renard seems to be Coyote's prodigal son. I think Coyote only offered powers to Ysengrin after Renard had left. This is from the time when Ysengrin was introduced. He told Renard that with his new body he can control the trees. That to me says that Renard had never seen this body of Ysengrin. Anyways that's my 2 cents. Personally going with it is a court experiment, they have a history of trying to "tame the powerful creatures" of the forest (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=491).
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Post by Neats on Apr 21, 2009 4:08:22 GMT
I don't see why people think that Coyote might be behind this. Hes never shown any signs of malevolence, and doesn't seem like the kind of person who would attack the court for no reason. However, I guess we also have no way of knowing whether or not this attack was provoked or not, and if the forest was attacked I can imagine Coyote retaliating. The only conclusion I can reach is that we don't have enough information, and I hate that conclusion so bad! This creature hasn't shown any signs of malevolence either, merely a lack of respect for school property. ;-) We don't know that this is an attack. If it is Coyote, it may just be a bit of mischief, or it may be that he was attacked by someone in the Court while making an official visit. We know how some members of the Court view the residents of Gillitie. However, while my first thought was Coyote, the shaky lines around the creature's legs point towards some connection to Ysengrin. I don't think it's the General himself, but he was able to give Robot an arm and control Robot through one of the shadow people, so why couldn't he be commanding one of the shadow people possessing a body that he created completely from the trees?
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Post by Casey on Apr 21, 2009 4:26:15 GMT
...what if it's just a creature of the forest that accidentally wandered across the bridge and now can't find its way home?
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Post by Goatmon on Apr 21, 2009 5:18:31 GMT
...what if it's just a creature of the forest that accidentally wandered across the bridge and now can't find its way home? That is possible, but it's legs appear to be trembling, which is very strongly associated with Ysengrin.
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Post by Goatmon on Apr 21, 2009 5:23:24 GMT
Perhaps the Court got a piece of his DNA at some point without him even knowing, in which case, I think we don't need to go into too much detail as to how they got a sample... Ha Ha Ha Details...
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Post by Dentrala on Apr 21, 2009 6:08:07 GMT
...what if it's just a creature of the forest that accidentally wandered across the bridge and now can't find its way home? That is possible, but it's legs appear to be trembling, which is very strongly associated with Ysengrin. I would be scared too if a glass pane jumped at you and shattered on your face.
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Post by Goatmon on Apr 21, 2009 7:15:08 GMT
That is possible, but it's legs appear to be trembling, which is very strongly associated with Ysengrin. I would be scared too if a glass pane jumped at you and shattered on your face. Yes, but creatures that cross the waters and reach the Court are not usually there by accident. Jones once said that the forest likes to bare it's teeth. And the most aggressive forest-dweller we've seen is Ysengrin.
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Post by chiparoo on Apr 21, 2009 7:26:50 GMT
He told Renard that with his new body he can control the trees. That to me says that Renard had never seen this body of Ysengrin. This is /precisely/ why I was under the impression that Ysengrin had received powers from Coyote after Reynardine. And since Coyote possesses the powers before giving them as 'gifts,' this is another point to this totally being Coyote's doing. But that returns us to something Casey brought up: Why would Coyote be attacking the court? This seems like a hostile act, there has to be a reason it's here. Then again, perhaps this isn't an 'attack' at all, but some other... situation?
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Post by Goatmon on Apr 21, 2009 8:00:27 GMT
Ok I just joined for this conversation itself. 1) It is not Renard as many people have said, due to his only taking powers after falling in love with Surma. While it is most likely not Reynardine, there is no reason Reynardine could not have fallen in love with Surma by this point, based on all we know. We know she certainly appeared older in the image shown, earlier, but that doesn't mean he had not developed feelings for her a little earlier.
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Post by mudmaniac on Apr 22, 2009 1:59:55 GMT
For some irrepressible reason the following:
"DOOOOOOG THRU THE WIIINDOW" "COYOTE IN THE SKYYYYY"
has been playing thru my head to the tune of "Smoke on the water"
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Post by audacity on Apr 22, 2009 13:32:31 GMT
Ok I just joined for this conversation itself. 1) It is not Renard as many people have said, due to his only taking powers after falling in love with Surma. While it is most likely not Reynardine, there is no reason Reynardine could not have fallen in love with Surma by this point, based on all we know. We know she certainly appeared older in the image shown, earlier, but that doesn't mean he had not developed feelings for her a little earlier. I doubt very much that Reynard has even MET Surma yet, as Tom has already said that Surma and her friends have only been at Gunnerkrigg for a year.
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Post by cantabile on Apr 26, 2009 23:02:08 GMT
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Post by picaro on Apr 27, 2009 18:16:36 GMT
Personally going with it is a court experiment, they have a history of trying to "tame the powerful creatures" of the forest (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=491). Going along with this I think it's either born from or the cause of the cherry tree in Chapter 6 Afterall, they're growing an arm from Ys, why not a tree from a dog.
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