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Post by Azeltir on Dec 18, 2008 5:46:19 GMT
Interesting how Coyote's leg spots glow as bright as his eyes.
Ben
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Post by mudmaniac on Dec 18, 2008 6:04:36 GMT
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Post by popo on Dec 18, 2008 6:55:26 GMT
the boy who rey possessed was anthony's boyfriend at time, I bet I'm totally right
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Post by Azeltir on Dec 18, 2008 7:44:56 GMT
Those are his eyes. As are the ones on his knees and chest. unless they are fake.. How weird! To have 7 eyes. I had thought they were fake before, but the pupils move. Interesting! Ben
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Post by Goatmon on Dec 18, 2008 8:23:32 GMT
my feverish mind came up with this: Renard stole Egglamore's body,did/said something innapropriate while in this shape - thus ruining the Surma-Egglamore relationship. How is Egglamore still alive? Renard jumped from his body to Sivo. Egglamore's friends turned him into a construct/half robot half human in an attempt to save him. that would explain Eggie's super powers (think bionic woman style - yes I am disclosing my age here). Of course, Tom's statement quite contradicts this. But then, you can understand his statement in different ways, The Eggers we know today is not the Eggers that was before Renard destroyed him. That wouldn't explain why there is a younger Eglamore at school who is similarly huge. More than likely, Eglamore just has some awesome family genes. The only thing that seems some sort of clear to me is that it's someone who was pretty darn close to Surma&co - that'd nicely explain their hostility towards Reynardine. I'm not even going to bother wondering who, exactly - if Tom says I don't know I'm pretty sure I won't know. They were good friends with Sivo, isn't that reason enough? I mean, Reynardine did possess him, and condemn him to either dying early, or living out his days controlled by Reynardine. Maybe Reynardine didn't plan things out that way, but that wouldn't make the situation any less tragic for everyone else.
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Post by Jonny Rocks Hard on Dec 18, 2008 10:13:43 GMT
Man, I hate to say I told you guys so but... wait no I don't hate saying that I love saying it.
I wonder when we'll find out exactly what happened to Reynardine after he stole that first body. My bet is that he went into the body of Sivo trying to escape from the court.
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Post by Dominic on Dec 18, 2008 10:16:32 GMT
They were good friends with Sivo, isn't that reason enough? Oh bother, I'd forgotten about that one. Never really had a clear picture of their relationship with him, I guess. This raises a question, by the way - when our foxy friend takes over someone's body, does he receive any or all memories of the original "owner"? If not it'd have been madness to take over a body of someone close to Surma.
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Post by mudmaniac on Dec 18, 2008 12:00:38 GMT
Those are his eyes. As are the ones on his knees and chest. unless they are fake.. How weird! To have 7 eyes. I had thought they were fake before, but the pupils move. Interesting! Ben I imagine, one point he starts singing "I've only got eyes for you" while 3 of them are looking at someone else.
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Post by todd on Dec 18, 2008 12:29:44 GMT
This page reminded me of the theory, back in Chapter Thirteen, that Alistair was Reynardine in disguise; while he wasn't, it came closer to the truth about Reynardine's backstory than we'd expected at the time. (Of course, if it *had* been Reynardine, he'd have been paying far more attention to Annie than to Kat.)
I wonder if Reynardine really would try such a thing with Annie (gives new meaning to the scene in Chapter Eighteen when he's asking Kat if Annie's been paying close attention to any of the boys at the Court). But he's obviously not going to have an opportunity so long as Annie controls him (he can't steal a new body without her permission), and given Annie's lack of interest in romance or boys, it probably wouldn't work even if he could body-hop again. (There's also the question of whether he'd try the same scheme twice.)
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Post by Count Casimir on Dec 18, 2008 16:24:43 GMT
I see. But this wasn't a very nice way to say that. Sorry, I meant that in a much less mean way than it ended up sounding.
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Post by eelman on Dec 18, 2008 20:37:03 GMT
OOH LOOKIT REYNARD IS TOTALLY ANNIE'S DA--*gunshot* That would be incredibly disturbing, as renard does flirt with her once or twice.
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Post by slagpenumbra on Dec 19, 2008 7:12:25 GMT
I must wonder now, how much of Reynardine's power is his own and how much is from Coyote. I mean, the barriers and the shapeshifting and such.
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Post by fjodor on Dec 19, 2008 13:58:08 GMT
In the fables, Renard the Fox was not a deity, and neither was Ysengrin, they were talking animals. So maybe all special powers Renard has - except for talking and intelligence - originate from Coyote.
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Post by warrl on Dec 19, 2008 21:14:12 GMT
Hey, really, compared to the situation Reynardine was in when he met Annie, is he really so bad off now?
Look, he obviously cared about her because he was Surma's daughter, but he was (apparently) willing to kill her to get out of that situation. Knowing that this would mean Eglamore and others would be in pursuit of him, while he would be in a pre-teen child's body and thus suffering a number of extra societal handicaps (unless he chose to abandon that body soon after).
Well, now, he's out. He has some shape-shifting ability and a body that is, while small and weak, surprisingly durable. Nobody's actively pursuing him. And Annie's teaching him how to behave in human society, while normally leaving him a lot of freedom.
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Post by Per on Dec 20, 2008 13:43:59 GMT
What would happen if Reynardine were to (try to) possess Coyote?
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Post by Dominic on Dec 20, 2008 14:27:59 GMT
What would happen if Reynardine were to (try to) possess Coyote? Assuming sanity in the GC universe it wouldn't work, Rey being of much lower power than Coyote.
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Post by warrl on Dec 21, 2008 18:21:21 GMT
What would happen if Reynardine were to (try to) possess Coyote? What would happen if Coyote were to take away Renardine's ability to possess a body other than his own... ... when his own isn't around?
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Post by agasa on Dec 21, 2008 19:01:57 GMT
What would happen if Reynardine were to (try to) possess Coyote? What would happen if Coyote were to take away Renardine's ability to possess a body other than his own... ... when his own isn't around? probably he'll be stuck in his current body?
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Post by Shunpike on Dec 21, 2008 21:17:35 GMT
This raises a question, by the way - when our foxy friend takes over someone's body, does he receive any or all memories of the original "owner"? If not it'd have been madness to take over a body of someone close to Surma. I always had the idea that whoever Rey was possessing, their mind became dormant while Rey's took control. I figured Rey didn't try to hide that he was possessing the person/animal, but rather said "Hey, it's me, I just look different. Oh and the guy you're seeing me as is going to die before his time, FYI" ...
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Post by slagpenumbra on Dec 22, 2008 19:33:27 GMT
In the fables, Renard the Fox was not a deity, and neither was Ysengrin, they were talking animals. So maybe all special powers Renard has - except for talking and intelligence - originate from Coyote. I dunno. Unless Mrs. Donlan got her powers from Coyote too, I think we can seek a different explanation. The barrier that Reynardine summoned was in a very similar style as the bonds that were used to wrap up his toy body. HereAnd here.I'm betting they get there powers from the same or a similar place. Something called "etheric tenet" is in the story. I'm betting it has something to do with that.
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Post by Azeltir on Dec 22, 2008 21:38:53 GMT
I dunno. Unless Mrs. Donlan got her powers from Coyote too, I think we can seek a different explanation. The barrier that Reynardine summoned was in a very similar style as the bonds that were used to wrap up his toy body. HereAnd here.I'm betting they get there powers from the same or a similar place. Something called "etheric tenet" is in the story. I'm betting it has something to do with that. Both of those panels show powers the Donlans are using. Although it seems at first glance that the barrier in strip 285 is made by Reynardine, in actuality you can see Donald summoning the barrier in the third panel. No, that magic is all Court-based, and Reynardine has a different bag of tricks to manipulate. Ben
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Post by slagpenumbra on Dec 24, 2008 2:41:25 GMT
I dunno. Unless Mrs. Donlan got her powers from Coyote too, I think we can seek a different explanation. The barrier that Reynardine summoned was in a very similar style as the bonds that were used to wrap up his toy body. HereAnd here.I'm betting they get there powers from the same or a similar place. Something called "etheric tenet" is in the story. I'm betting it has something to do with that. Both of those panels show powers the Donlans are using. Although it seems at first glance that the barrier in strip 285 is made by Reynardine, in actuality you can see Donald summoning the barrier in the third panel. No, that magic is all Court-based, and Reynardine has a different bag of tricks to manipulate. Ben Oh. Whoops.
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