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Post by King Mir on Oct 23, 2008 1:29:11 GMT
My first thought on who Annie is referring to was Mort. He's the resident ghost, and presumably been their some time, even though he is a young spirit.
But Coyote makes sense too. OTOH, Coyote may not know or care what they are up to at the school in terms of technological projects as demonstrated by this chapter.
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Post by inhumandecency on Oct 23, 2008 2:56:49 GMT
Yes, this is something that I've been thinking about for a while (and it used to really bug me, but not so much anymore). While the Court certainly hasn't been volunteering information, they haven't been brushing Annie off either -- because she hasn't been asking them. Your entire response to this is really good. I think you're right that Annie's been less communicative than the situation really dictates, and that it has to be chalked up to fairly strong character traits. On the other hand, I also think that the adults -- as the grown-ups, the ones in charge, and the ones holding all the informational cards -- have a responsibility to volunteer more information than they have. If they didn't initially tell Annie that the Court isn't just a normal school, or that her mother used to serve there, or that crazy psychic stuff might happen to her, then it's not hard to see why she might not expect them to be too forthcoming, or even honest. That's all stuff you'd expect to hear on day one! Yet another possibility is that she's acutely aware that she's there on the mysterious and unexplained sufferance of the Court, and if they withdraw it then she'll be a homeless, penniless orphan. She might worry about that kind of thing a lot, given how readily she entertains the idea that her father might have found her disappointing and decided to abandon her for good. So she has both pragmatic and in-character reasons to not want to rock the boat. Although this is at best a partial explanation, consdering how quickly those reasons go out the window when there's an adventure to be had. This will all be worth paying more attention to in future episodes and future rereadings.
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Chrome
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Post by Chrome on Oct 23, 2008 4:39:10 GMT
Well it's either Jones or Reynardine. Either one are pretty accessible to her. Rey probably is less likely to answer them, though. The last time Annie really pressed him on something, he popped back into doll form rather than deal with her questions. Thus, my vote is for Jones. She has most definitely been helpful to Annie in the past, and seemed perfectly willing to let her make her own decisions as what to do with all this information. I agree with Wanderer about her reaction to adults. However, I think Mezzaphor makes some pretty good points about Jones, which is why my vote's going to her.
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Post by Kuraru on Oct 23, 2008 8:07:18 GMT
She could be talking about a lot of people, Reynardine and Jones are unlikely to actually give her any answers, and Eglamore isn't that likely either. My money's on Coyote, Jones did say that he always told the truth.
In other news, I love the latest page of the comic! Especcially panel 4 with the "??". Kat looks extremely cute here, too!
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Post by todd on Oct 23, 2008 11:08:49 GMT
As a side-note on Mezzaphor's comments about Annie withholding information from the adults:
She's probably doing the Court a disservice in not telling them about her connections with Robot. Annie's unwitting act in sending Robot across the bridge to help Shadow2 get home sparked an international incident with the Wood (though trouble might have been coming anyway, given how Ysengrin's been acting) - and all from a desire to help without knowing why the forest was off-limits to the school. While the faculty has worked hard to avoid trouble with Gillitie, it evidently never considered the possibility that one of the shadow-people might end up stranded in the Court, and that a well-intentioned student might come across it and try devising a scheme to help it get back home.
If Annie had told Mr. Eglamore in Chapter Nine about her connections with Robot, the teachers would be aware of such a possibility and could take steps to ensure that there'd be less danger of a repeat in the future - maybe getting the staff to be more alert to the possibility of shadow-people getting lost in the school and encouraging the children to come to someone like Eglamore or Mrs. Donlan if they notice anything strange going on. Because she kept silent about it, the faculty is still unaware of a hole in their system that could lead to trouble.
Of course, if Annie *had* gone to the teachers about Shadow2's problem (or any of the other problems) instead of looking into it herself, there'd be far less of a story.
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Post by inhumandecency on Oct 23, 2008 13:56:20 GMT
She's probably doing the Court a disservice in not telling them about her connections with Robot. Annie's unwitting act in sending Robot across the bridge to help Shadow2 get home sparked an international incident with the Wood (though trouble might have been coming anyway, given how Ysengrin's been acting) - and all from a desire to help without knowing why the forest was off-limits to the school. That's a good point. Maybe the situation with Reynardine started her off on the wrong foot. We know she couldn't accept how he was being held captive, even after she knew he'd been lying and tried to kill her. In that case Eglamore's "impale first and ask questions later" response to Robot / Shadow 3's attack could have had a similar effect on her (assuming she saw it; I'm not sure what the precise timing was). Perhaps she is reluctant to discuss things with the faculty because she thinks that they're parochial and too quick to accept violence towards other forms of life. Also, Shadow 2 is her friend at this point, and if she explained things now they might find him and kick him out. They probably wouldn't be very understanding following shadow 3's possession trick.
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Post by edisoninari on Oct 23, 2008 18:39:01 GMT
This slightly off the current topic - though I've found the conversation started by wanderer and inhumandecency very interesting and enlightening I was wondering that a new twist would be having Jack be in Annie's medium class - since he was sucked into Zimmy's alternative world shows that he has a spark of medium powers.
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Post by todd on Oct 23, 2008 22:18:04 GMT
Also, Shadow 2 is her friend at this point, and if she explained things now they might find him and kick him out. Or worse, try vivisecting him - and I fear that they might not be as gentle and humane as Kat was at the start of Chapter Twelve.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Oct 23, 2008 23:14:20 GMT
Also, Shadow 2 is her friend at this point, and if she explained things now they might find him and kick him out. Or worse, try vivisecting him - and I fear that they might not be as gentle and humane as Kat was at the start of Chapter Twelve. The Court has been sharing a border with the Glass-Eyed Men for decades (centuries?). They probably already know everything that a vivisection could reveal. And what evidence do we have that they would do that to a sapient being?
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