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Post by Timberwere on Feb 17, 2020 8:01:22 GMT
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 17, 2020 8:03:17 GMT
This should impress the robots, having their predecessors around doing Kat's bidding and all.
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Post by basser on Feb 17, 2020 8:05:36 GMT
Old-Timey Bots: let us sleep forever
Kat: haha no
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 17, 2020 8:12:57 GMT
Kat: (winds back internal chronometers)
Robots: "Why did you wake us, our time is... not passed?"
seriously tho I'm sure this more like puppeteering then headcrabbing so they won't feel a thing...
I mean, they know way too many spoilers to be actually resurrected.
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Post by noone3 on Feb 17, 2020 8:36:32 GMT
having their predecessors around doing Kat's bidding and all. Oh, I bet it would be too simple if they did just that.
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Post by Elysium on Feb 17, 2020 8:41:14 GMT
I'm mad jelly about that big red ACTIVATE button, why does Kat get all the cool toys?
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Post by arf on Feb 17, 2020 9:19:34 GMT
No. No! Bad Kat!
Definitely developing a 'Willow' vibe here.
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Post by Timberwere on Feb 17, 2020 9:23:12 GMT
Yes, Kat is still looking extremely determined/focused/this-has-better-work-dammit/apprehensive.
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Post by madjack on Feb 17, 2020 10:04:16 GMT
Yes, Kat. Just appropriate them for your project, I'm sure they won't mind at all.
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 17, 2020 10:38:31 GMT
So, using robot bodies without CPUs is not okay, but reactivating the old robots against their will is?
It would serve Kat right if she got a lot of free doors from this.
seriously tho I'm sure this more like puppeteering then headcrabbing so they won't feel a thing... I mean, they know way too many spoilers to be actually resurrected. "Bypass" is the word Kat used last time, though, and then it was a proper reactivation. It's not that much, it's just a scratch severing a circuit path. Reactivating them is probably much easier than puppeteering them.
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Post by stclair on Feb 17, 2020 11:57:27 GMT
Makes... sense, I guess. The new robots are all "busy", so boot up the old ones for a while.
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Post by bicarbonat on Feb 17, 2020 12:14:57 GMT
No. No! Bad Kat! Definitely developing a 'Willow' vibe here. I doubt she's even going to bother promising to scale things back, girlfriend be damned. Kat's firmly in "go" mode, despite her romantic feelings, and Tom help us all if something happens to Paz. Wait, he doesn't care about us, what am I saying -
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Feb 17, 2020 13:42:56 GMT
I'm mad jelly about that big red ACTIVATE button, why does Kat get all the cool toys? I would give you mine, but I don't have one either.
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Post by csj on Feb 17, 2020 15:44:41 GMT
She's a technomancer AND a necromancer
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Post by jda on Feb 17, 2020 16:47:17 GMT
So, by virtue of the bypass, the Olde Timey Robots will not be disturbed, while their bodies get proper use by the new robot "souls". This is getting increasingly creepy. Especially because I don't think the transition will be so smooth: since the old robots' bodies have their soul engraved on them, not needing a CPU, the new robots will find bodies that cooperate but have their own memories...
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Post by Gemini Jim on Feb 17, 2020 17:10:36 GMT
I'm starting to think that Zimmy is right. Annie should monitor Kat.
I mean, maybe the "bypass" is meant to bypass the Court's instructions. I'm imagining a bunch of archaic robots heading straight for the barrier, and joining the other robots, to the confusion and amusement of the Court people. But that's the best-case scenario. Those never apply to "Gunnerkrigg Court."
Or, she could be bypassing their normal, ancient personalities... which, as other people have noted, would effectively make zombies of their bodies. And we know how much she hates robot zombies.
If she needs more robot bodies, why not just create some generic Robot bodies?
Otherwise, she's re-activating robots who are potentially dangerous and know way too much information. (I suppose she might want to force some information out of them, but that would be like mugging Jones to learn the truth about... anything and everything.)
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Post by kayback on Feb 17, 2020 17:40:46 GMT
A case could be made that the robots are the bodies but Kat was fairly adamant the bodies were inert until a chip was inserted and then the Seraph entity took over. The one she brought back to life required a literal hard coding change. This looks like she's just borrowing the bodies but bypassing the pantomime activation morally I see nothing wrong with using what would otherwise go to waste in an emergency.
But then good intentions and the road to hell.
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Post by migrantworker on Feb 17, 2020 19:43:55 GMT
I just wonder if Juliette knew this was part of the plan. And why she plays along so far in the first place. She is known for piggybacking on other people's work. Just sayin'.
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Post by crater on Feb 17, 2020 19:51:14 GMT
FREE WILL: BYPASSED
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 17, 2020 20:44:30 GMT
If she's bypassing their deliberate deactivation, I imagine they'll be happy to help free their children. "To be still is death", after all.
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Post by mturtle7 on Feb 17, 2020 22:58:18 GMT
Ah, I see. This is going to be one of those chapters, where I constantly want to just swat one of the main characters with a rolled-up newspaper while shouting "Bad, bad, bad! Bad protagonist! Stop it already!" *sigh* well, it happens sometimes. You can't expect teen protagonists to never be horribly angst-ridden and destructively stupid, anymore than you can expect cats to never scratch the furniture or shed fur all over the clean laundry. But still, DAMMIT KAT!
...you know, suddenly I have a lot more sympathy for Paz, if this is what she's been dealing with for the past couple months. That face in the 2nd-to-last panel just screams an "I know this is wrong, but I'm justified because I'm doing it for the greater good" mentality, which is...not fun to be around. I'd be pissed off and lashing out at friends, too, if I were Paz.
Oh, and for reference, the "bypass" Kat's installing is probably just this one. It's a physical thing, "installed" directly on the golems' heart...but I assume that now, she can just use her teleporter tech to do that, without even getting her hands dirty.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 17, 2020 23:20:43 GMT
I would think that the bypass this time around would be some sort of plug-in that would allow the old robot bodies to network with Kat's computer like Ship's "fingers" back in the Torn Sea chapter, but if they already could network somehow then they'd just need a tweak in their symbol-code to allow it (which would also be a physical alteration). I figure Kat's computer would have enough resources to run them so that would eliminate the need to jack new robot chips into old robot bodies or deal with the ethical implications of reviving the old robots. Not sure about how the old robots would feel about all this but they didn't seem to mind the puppet show.
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Post by netherdan on Feb 18, 2020 3:10:46 GMT
The "I'm sorry I'm waking you up again" face!
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Post by Eily on Feb 18, 2020 8:56:58 GMT
This feels so much like a villain origin story to me... Looks like Kat was Lex Luthor all along
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Post by maxptc on Feb 18, 2020 18:16:55 GMT
I mean, I get why it seems weird, but from an engineer standpoint it's just switching a cpu into an old chassis. Kat probably sees this as similar to other robot upgrades.
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 18, 2020 23:47:08 GMT
I mean, I get why it seems weird, but from an engineer standpoint it's just switching a cpu into an old chassis. Kat probably sees this as similar to other robot upgrades. Then why does she have a problem with the Court overrides for robot bodies without CPUs?
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Post by maxptc on Feb 19, 2020 1:32:34 GMT
I mean, I get why it seems weird, but from an engineer standpoint it's just switching a cpu into an old chassis. Kat probably sees this as similar to other robot upgrades. Then why does she have a problem with the Court overrides for robot bodies without CPUs? My theory is because they weren't "dead" they were "living" working robots. These guys don't want to be reactivated, so what happened before was much more necromancyish then this imo. This is more like building a Frankenstein if anything, but much less creepy. I say that because while I understand the situation and get why they seem like corpses, they are more similar to scrap metal. Kat might even be uncomfortable with it, but she needs to save the "souls" of the robots that want to exist and had there bodies jacked.
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Post by maxptc on Feb 19, 2020 1:38:50 GMT
The more I look at it however, the more it seems like she is going to reactivate the old bots to help the situation. Still seems less likely, but I'm on the fence about what Kat is doing here.
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