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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 19, 2019 7:12:17 GMT
My question is, are the radios really not working or is everyone being led to believe that they're not working? |
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 19, 2019 7:27:04 GMT
Yeah, he somehow can tell. What's the next plan, ask Parley to check which side of a gurdig is covered with moss?
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 19, 2019 8:09:03 GMT
Ah, the team divided, creatures with illusory powers about, communicators not working and a bunch of nameless security personnel. Feels like gold ol' Star Trek TOS. Yeah, he somehow can tell. What's the next plan, ask Parley to check which side of a gurdig is covered with moss? Maybe he is in possession of a mystical engine called a compass, which is able to divine where north is. Rumor has it that these devices exist also in pure spiritual form on so-called "smart phones". Crazy stuff, I know. |
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Post by gpvos on Jul 19, 2019 8:52:36 GMT
Always address people whom you don't recognize as "sir" or "madam".
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Post by madjack on Jul 19, 2019 9:03:34 GMT
Always address people whom you don't recognize as "sir" or "madam". I think it's more that they're in a work environment and she's the student while he's the staff member who's responsible for her. Or is something going over my head here? |
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Post by dramastix on Jul 19, 2019 9:13:18 GMT
Always address people whom you don't recognize as "sir" or "madam". I think it's more that they're in a work environment and she's the student while he's the staff member who's responsible for her. Or is something going over my head here? Going to assume he's making a reference to how Tom always pretends Eglamore is unrecognizable. If I remember correctly from the recaps, Tom was unhappy with how he drew Eggers for a goodly while. I think he's dropped that gag in recent years though. |
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Post by madjack on Jul 19, 2019 9:17:55 GMT
I think it's more that they're in a work environment and she's the student while he's the staff member who's responsible for her. Or is something going over my head here? Going to assume he's making a reference to how Tom always pretends Eglamore is unrecognizable. If I remember correctly from the recaps, Tom was unhappy with how he drew Eggers for a goodly while. I think he's dropped that gag in recent years though. ...I've either had too much coffee or not enough. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 19, 2019 10:52:36 GMT
Always address people whom you don't recognize as "sir" or "madam". I think it's more that they're in a work environment and she's the student while he's the staff member who's responsible for her. Or is something going over my head here? Pretty sure you are right. Here is an example from games lesson. Tony was also addressed as "sir" in class. Anja was addressed as "miss". |
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Post by saardvark on Jul 19, 2019 11:27:56 GMT
trusting a compass, or Kat's device, or even their own senses would seem risky in an illusion-filled Wispy environment....
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Post by todd on Jul 19, 2019 12:40:55 GMT
Going to assume he's making a reference to how Tom always pretends Eglamore is unrecognizable. If I remember correctly from the recaps, Tom was unhappy with how he drew Eggers for a goodly while. I think he's dropped that gag in recent years though. It started, I recall, in Chapter Seventeen where a lot of the readers didn't recognize Eglamore because Tom was drawing his hair longer than he had in the "Chapters One to Fourteen" period, and Tom had to finally tell everyone it was Eglamore. (The running gag's been far more common among the readers, though, than with Tom.) |
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 19, 2019 13:25:31 GMT
All this talk of Eglamore, I'm surprised no one's asked, when did his eyes start glowing yellow? It's a little disconcerting. Has his hair gone white with stress?
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Post by DonDueed on Jul 19, 2019 13:54:42 GMT
All this talk of Eglamore, I'm surprised no one's asked, when did his eyes start glowing yellow? It's a little disconcerting. Has his hair gone white with stress? The wet nose is a bad sign. Pretty bad 5 o'clock shadow, too. He's not taking care of himself. |
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Post by ohthatone on Jul 19, 2019 14:27:29 GMT
Annie, don't talk to strangers.
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Post by Gemini Jim on Jul 19, 2019 14:56:31 GMT
My question is, are the radios really not working or is everyone being led to believe that they're not working? Of course, it doesn't really matter in the long run. The radio is as broken as they think it is, whether that is because of a dead battery or because of wisp interference. Also, I'm awarding myself a piece of a cookie for wondering why they don't use walkie-talkies. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 19, 2019 15:26:13 GMT
trusting a compass, or Kat's device, or even their own senses would seem risky in an illusion-filled Wispy environment.... I watched the original TOS pilot episode "The Cage" yesterday, this is just so fitting... "I'm sure I just blasted a hole through that wall with this phaser, and you are just keeping us from seeing it. Shall we try it out with your head?"
*ahem* When Annie encountered a wisp for the first time, calling it out on its deception seemed to be enough to break the spell. Actually, we do not know whether wisps are even able to mask anything other than themselves with illusions. If they do, however, I expect them to "mix truth with lies" as Coyote said, for example casting the illusion of a solid object over a solid object and not in thin air, to make it more believable, and so on.
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Post by Corvo on Jul 19, 2019 16:42:03 GMT
If the Sun and stars fail on you, there's always that compass tattoo on your shoulder pointing to the right direction.
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Post by ohthatone on Jul 19, 2019 17:23:58 GMT
oh! oh! I know this one! we need a magnet, a cork, a pin, and a shallow dish of water.
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Post by Gemini Jim on Jul 19, 2019 17:27:18 GMT
I get the feeling that until they solve WispWorld - or beat it up or whatever it is they have to do - our Gunnerkrigg gang will have a worse sense of direction than the Straw Hat pirates. Compasses won't help.  |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 19, 2019 19:24:32 GMT
By the way, I count nine small and three large silhouettes in today's comic. Of the small ones, only one is really short so that should be Renard the quadruped. The big ones should be Eglamore, Cvet, and the thinner one is Parley. That means twelve people total. Of specific individuals, the wisps and their allies would know what Cvet is even if they don't know her personally. They may or may not recognize Parley. Eglamore has been Court protector for a while so they may know who he is. They may or may not recognize an Antimony; though she's been in the Wood a lot and creatures are talking about her she hasn't been famous for that long so more antisocial creatures might not have heard about her. Fannie said she and Cvet are with some of the Court security people. I count five here. Courtnie's with Eglamore and Parley is with Renard. None of the other groups appear to have security people. That adds up to eleven people accounted for which suggests that a red shirt may have already been picked off. That would make sense, as the purpose of clustering the smaller people into a single group would probably be to reduce its numbers slowly and after a while hopefully panic it so that everyone scatters, and then they can hunt down individual humans in whatever way they please. Cvet is something of a known quantity and she will have, going by what a causal observer would think, a tough time looking after a large group of people. Also: When they were split up it appears one obviously bigger person got placed with each group. First, that the wisp(s) are splitting the group up at all means they don't want to fight all of them at once. It probably seems like I'm stating the obvious there but it is interesting that they didn't cluster all of the bigger people in the same group and the smaller people in another; I think that means that if the three biggest people were together it would make a group the wisps and their allies can't stop, which would be bad. Of the bigger people Parley is the smallest and the gurdig apparently picked a fight with Parley. That possibly means that the gurdig was their strongest melee fighter, or that the gurdig wasn't great at cooperating with others so they sent him after the group that he had the best chance of defeating by himself. What's curious is why the Antimonies are in the groups they are (other than for plot reasons). Maybe the wisps don't want them coordinating. But they did put an Antimony with Eglamore, let alone Courtnie. I suspect that the Courtnie/Eglamore group is a dumping ground for two of the most powerful opponents, and the reason they're not separate is that with Courtnie there Eglamore isn't alone; with Courtnie to protect Eglamore can't charge around doing whatever he wants. It may also mean that the wisps and allies don't know who Fannie is. |
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Post by Runningflame on Jul 19, 2019 19:36:36 GMT
All this talk of Eglamore, I'm surprised no one's asked, when did his eyes start glowing yellow? It's a little disconcerting. Has his hair gone white with stress? And my, what big teeth he has! |
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Post by DonDueed on Jul 19, 2019 23:37:49 GMT
That adds up to eleven people accounted for which suggests that a red shirt may have already been picked off. Maybe that's the guy Parley perceived as a gurdig. |
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Post by DonDueed on Jul 20, 2019 12:41:58 GMT
It just occurred to me that Loup may not know about the Annies-to-Reynard familiar link. This could become a significant advantage in any future confrontations.
It might be a good idea to limit the number of people who know about it and warn them not to give it away. Loup has godlike powers but it does seem to be possible to keep secrets from him (e.g. Coyote's tooth). Annie and Annie should take advantage of any edge (pun intended) they have.
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Post by rosesonthewall on Jul 20, 2019 17:43:07 GMT
I think it's more that they're in a work environment and she's the student while he's the staff member who's responsible for her. Or is something going over my head here? Pretty sure you are right. Here is an example from games lesson. Tony was also addressed as "sir" in class. Anja was addressed as "miss". Agreed. Also generally a UK school thing to call your male teachers “Sir” (or in my case, Commonwealth with UK-based education). |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 20, 2019 20:28:56 GMT
By the way, I count nine small and three large silhouettes in today's comic. Of the small ones, only one is really short so that should be Renard the quadruped. The big ones should be Eglamore, Cvet, and the thinner one is Parley. That means twelve people total. Of specific individuals, the wisps and their allies would know what Cvet is even if they don't know her personally. They may or may not recognize Parley. Eglamore has been Court protector for a while so they may know who he is. They may or may not recognize an Antimony; though she's been in the Wood a lot and creatures are talking about her she hasn't been famous for that long so more antisocial creatures might not have heard about her. Fannie said she and Cvet are with some of the Court security people. I count five here. Courtnie's with Eglamore and Parley is with Renard. None of the other groups appear to have security people. That adds up to eleven people accounted for which suggests that a red shirt may have already been picked off. That would make sense, as the purpose of clustering the smaller people into a single group would probably be to reduce its numbers slowly and after a while hopefully panic it so that everyone scatters, and then they can hunt down individual humans in whatever way they please. Cvet is something of a known quantity and she will have, going by what a causal observer would think, a tough time looking after a large group of people. Also: When they were split up it appears one obviously bigger person got placed with each group. First, that the wisp(s) are splitting the group up at all means they don't want to fight all of them at once. It probably seems like I'm stating the obvious there but it is interesting that they didn't cluster all of the bigger people in the same group and the smaller people in another; I think that means that if the three biggest people were together it would make a group the wisps and their allies can't stop, which would be bad. Of the bigger people Parley is the smallest and the gurdig apparently picked a fight with Parley. That possibly means that the gurdig was their strongest melee fighter, or that the gurdig wasn't great at cooperating with others so they sent him after the group that he had the best chance of defeating by himself. What's curious is why the Antimonies are in the groups they are (other than for plot reasons). Maybe the wisps don't want them coordinating. But they did put an Antimony with Eglamore, let alone Courtnie. I suspect that the Courtnie/Eglamore group is a dumping ground for two of the most powerful opponents, and the reason they're not separate is that with Courtnie there Eglamore isn't alone; with Courtnie to protect Eglamore can't charge around doing whatever he wants. It may also mean that the wisps and allies don't know who Fannie is. Very good observations! I would like to add two thoughts: 1. Another possibility about the gurdig is that is was a vanguard or even an illusion, sent out to test Parley's strength. 2. The wisp in Fun City pretended to be the Seed Bismuth. That is a very specific pretension and it must have known something about Annie to assume that she would be interested in speaking with the Seed Bismuth. Now the wisp might have simply assumed all Court denizens to know about the S.B., but I find it more likely it either had an idea about who Annie was, or that it could somehow read her mind. Sooo... my gut feeling just says wisps who have been nesting even nearer to the Court will have learned some stuff about important Court members. They have been shown to be intelligent, I would expect them to gather information by spying invisibly on Court inhabitants (or reading their minds, if they are able to). |
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Post by saardvark on Jul 21, 2019 16:30:06 GMT
By the way, I count nine small and three large silhouettes in today's comic. Of the small ones, only one is really short so that should be Renard the quadruped. The big ones should be Eglamore, Cvet, and the thinner one is Parley. That means twelve people total. So the front chevron of silhouettes is likely (L to R): Rey, 2 Annies, Eggs (out in front with..), Parley, and Cvet, with 6 security red-shirts bringing up the rear. The missing red-shirt might just be out of frame in frame 3 here: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2172I kinda doubt that if one had been picked off already they would be so casually straggling behind and spread out... (but then red-shirts will be red-shirts...) ADDED: on the other hand, F-Annie does say she is here with *some* of the security people (not just "the security people") here: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2174Since there are 5 seen in [2172], did one poor red-shirt get put in "group" all by himself? If so, that one's soon to be troll toast.... |
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Post by warrl on Jul 21, 2019 19:46:02 GMT
Also generally a UK school thing to call your male teachers “Sir” Didn't Sidney Poitier do a movie about that? |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Jul 22, 2019 2:25:04 GMT
I think it's interesting that they didn't bip in, but they appear to have walked in through some ominous tunnel.
Maybe there is no bipping allowed in the Red Zone?
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Post by rosesonthewall on Jul 22, 2019 7:27:09 GMT
Also generally a UK school thing to call your male teachers “Sir” Didn't Sidney Poitier do a movie about that? Two movies it seems! I have seen neither but have read the novel. |
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 22, 2019 21:16:08 GMT
Maybe he is in possession of a mystical engine called a compass, which is able to divine where north is. Seeing how in the Court reinforced concrete seems to grow out of the ground and then die, while in Loup's domain anything goes, including but not limited to time stops, pocket Moon, getting puked outta gravity well and shell game with timelines? Expecting a simple compass to divine anything useful is great optimism. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 22, 2019 21:22:38 GMT
Maybe he is in possession of a mystical engine called a compass, which is able to divine where north is. Seeing how in the Court reinforced concrete seems to grow out of the ground and then die, while in Loup's domain anything goes, including but not limited to time stops, pocket Moon, getting puked outta gravity well and shell game with timelines? Expecting a simple compass to divine anything useful is great optimism. In fact, I would expect it to work because it is so simple that the wisps might overlook it. |
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