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Post by arf on Feb 6, 2019 8:07:20 GMT
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Post by madjack on Feb 6, 2019 8:07:41 GMT
Oh, someone's flushed boxbot again.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 6, 2019 8:25:23 GMT
A possible alternative explanation for why they are here would be a haunting. The medium thing might be a good test and maybe an activity the Antimonies could do together. But I will be a little disappointed if Kat hasn't converted the whole bunker facility into a giant Antimony-verifying machine.
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Post by TBeholder on Feb 6, 2019 9:55:05 GMT
A possible alternative explanation for why they are here would be a haunting. The medium thing might be a good test and maybe an activity the Antimonies could do together. While bickering. Why not. But… the only sensible resolution would be to construct a robotic walking device which will do this. Then again, maybe that's what crawls in this pipe. |
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Post by keef on Feb 6, 2019 11:04:58 GMT
Pipes are supposed to go "Clank Clonk". Boxbot can't even get that right.
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Post by electricguitarsolo on Feb 6, 2019 12:27:41 GMT
Any significance to C!Annie saying "reconnect" instead of "connect"?
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Post by todd on Feb 6, 2019 12:37:12 GMT
The short-haired version of Annie comes across as having a questionable set of priorities; apparently, as long as she and Antony are able to mend their relationship, it doesn't matter that the entire Court is under threat from Loup and his forces.
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Post by csj on Feb 6, 2019 13:00:30 GMT
I would laugh so hard if Zimmy showed up, but it's probably just some kinda shadowy boi or such
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Post by zaferion on Feb 6, 2019 13:11:56 GMT
Any significance to C!Annie saying "reconnect" instead of "connect"? Annie had a better, at least minimally functional relationship with Tony when she was younger (see: martial arts practice); furthermore, Tony had to be fatherly towards Annie at some point or she wouldn't care about him as a father at all. Compare that to when Tony came back to the Court and there was actually a negative relationship between the two of them where just the sight of Annie sent Tony into monumental panic attacks and vice versa. So while "reconnect" is significant, it's not, like, world-shakingly, story-shatteringly significant. |
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Post by todd on Feb 6, 2019 13:57:46 GMT
One other thought: that "sweeping state of emergency" remark suggests that short-haired Annie might not have been perceived as having saved the Court through her mission to the Forest after all; the attack's still going on (complete with the red and yellow zones). At most, the "big bad wolf" isn't directly assaulting the Court, but he hasn't called back or otherwise restrained the rest of the invaders.
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Post by sleepcircle on Feb 6, 2019 14:01:48 GMT
The short-haired version of Annie comes across as having a questionable set of priorities; apparently, as long as she and Antony are able to mend their relationship, it doesn't matter that the entire Court is under threat from Loup and his forces. not necessarily. it's been 5 months. people can adjust and create 'new routines' fairly quickly. she probably thinks F!Annie is being needlessly pedantic. |
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Post by fia on Feb 6, 2019 14:24:51 GMT
It makes sense: stuff is going well with Courtney and her dad, and then her past self shows up prior to all the reconnecting??? Poor Annie. All she's wanted for a long time is for at least one of her parents to be around for her. If she feels she has her dad back, why would she be suddenly ready to share him?
I think it goes a long way toward explaining her petulance, desire to one-up Fannie, and general witchy behavior toward someone who is basically herself. Like any older sibling when a new sibling is born – sometimes the reaction is jealousy and bossiness, rather than joy.
To be perfectly honest Courtney is acting exactly like my older cat did when we got a new kitten. We kept thinking, like, "What is so scary about a small cuddly cute kitten that just wants to play???"
And now that they're older and fight over the good sleeping spot, treats, who gets which bowl, and who gets petted, I totally get the hissy-fit reaction of my older cat.
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Post by ohthatone on Feb 6, 2019 14:33:28 GMT
oh wait I think I just connected a couple dots. I always thought it was strange that Pft!Annie didn't seem to have any interest in trying to help the Forest. "Ysengrin is gone, oh that's sad." That's not the same Annie that wanted to go into the Forest to calm a raging god. Pft!Annie seems perfectly fine to just let things be as they are, she doesn't have the same drive. I think it's because she's been able to reconnect with Tony and doesn't want to ruin the atmosphere. Everyone is relatively safe, roof over their heads, food to eat, but just enough of a threat to give Tony and Annie an excuse to live together. If/when all goes back to normal, Tony may revert back. I don't think she'd go so far as to sabotage any efforts to fix things, but I don't think she's in a hurry to help either.
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Post by penguinguy on Feb 6, 2019 14:56:44 GMT
This was mentioned earlier, and I feel that previously one could write it off as imagined, but the difference between forest Annie's round nose and chin and court Annie's pointy nose and chin are incredibly pronounced in panels 4 and 6. There must be some sort of significance to it, though I am uncertain what it could be.
This also makes forest Annie's "witch" quip funnier, court Annie both looks and acts a witch compared to forest Annie.
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 6, 2019 15:53:33 GMT
A "flooding escape room" team-building exercise? If that's the case, Kat's taken this a little to far. Probably a tiny robot, though.
Jealousy, over sharing a new found connection with their father, makes sense.
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Post by Corvo on Feb 6, 2019 16:12:45 GMT
It makes sense: stuff is going well with Courtney and her dad, and then her past self shows up prior to all the reconnecting??? Poor Annie. All she's wanted for a long time is for at least one of her parents to be around for her. If she feels she has her dad back, why would she be suddenly ready to share him? I think it goes a long way toward explaining her petulance, desire to one-up Fannie, and general witchy behavior toward someone who is basically herself. Like any older sibling when a new sibling is born – sometimes the reaction is jealousy and bossiness, rather than joy. To be perfectly honest Courtney is acting exactly like my older cat did when we got a new kitten. We kept thinking, like, "What is so scary about a small cuddly cute kitten that just wants to play???" And now that they're older and fight over the good sleeping spot, treats, who gets which bowl, and who gets petted, I totally get the hissy-fit reaction of my older cat. |
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Post by Eily on Feb 6, 2019 16:14:15 GMT
Any significance to C!Annie saying "reconnect" instead of "connect"? Annie had a better, at least minimally functional relationship with Tony when she was younger (see: martial arts practice); furthermore, Tony had to be fatherly towards Annie at some point or she wouldn't care about him as a father at all. Compare that to when Tony came back to the Court and there was actually a negative relationship between the two of them where just the sight of Annie sent Tony into monumental panic attacks and vice versa. So while "reconnect" is significant, it's not, like, world-shakingly, story-shatteringly significant. Things would have been far different with Surma if Tony had always been that cold towards his daughter. I would expect her to make sure Annie iscared for by someone else than Tony. |
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Post by DonDueed on Feb 6, 2019 16:16:30 GMT
... court Annie both looks and acts a witch compared to forest Annie. And what, pray tell, does a witch look like? I mean, I don't see any warts... |
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Post by clover on Feb 6, 2019 16:19:35 GMT
What if there always were two Annies in one.
What if that's why her dad couldn't just "be himself" even when he was with just her.
What if their separation was what allowed him to be able to be himself, now that he was just with one of the duality of antimony, or whatever is up. Ooo.
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Post by Corvo on Feb 6, 2019 16:27:49 GMT
... court Annie both looks and acts a witch compared to forest Annie. And what, pray tell, does a witch look like? I mean, I don't see any warts... |
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Post by avurai on Feb 6, 2019 17:14:07 GMT
It’s important to note that Courtnnie has spent six months finally in a positive relationship with her father. Having another Annie present not only takes away Courtnnie’s exclusivity with Tony, it also means less time for them to interact one-on-one. Which means less time for Tony to not be awkward around her. Called. And it does make some sense, honestly. Whenever she’s felt emotionally vulnerable about her father, Annie has been known to regress in terms of maturity. |
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 6, 2019 17:31:39 GMT
I would expect her to make sure Annie iscared for by someone else than Tony. Like she made sure to actually tell Annie why she was dying and that Annie herself had the same condition? ...I would not expect too much from Surma. |
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Post by ohthatone on Feb 6, 2019 18:27:11 GMT
I would expect her to make sure Annie iscared for by someone else than Tony. Like she made sure to actually tell Annie why she was dying and that Annie herself had the same condition? ...I would not expect too much from Surma. I can't help but wonder if Surma didn't just have so much faith in Tony that it seemed unnecessary to scare her. That even if he couldn't "cure" her, he's definitely find a way to "cure" Annie. That's not to excuse her for not saying anything, but just wondering if that was her thought process.
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Post by bedinsis on Feb 6, 2019 19:27:40 GMT
What if there always were two Annies in one. What if that's why her dad couldn't just "be himself" even when he was with just her. What if their separation was what allowed him to be able to be himself, now that he was just with one of the duality of antimony, or whatever is up. Ooo. Well that's one clever way to combine several aspects to a compelling theory that I personally don't care for. If it is not that way, then his behavior can be explained as the result of shame for how he has treated his daughter, her looking like his dead wife and thus serving as a constant reminder of his failure to save her, his animosity towards Antimony for being the thing that took Surma away from him combined with the feelings that he really shouldn't feel that way since she is innocent yet he still harbors those emotion on some level. You know, emotions that are in character for him and which are therefore reasonable to make him clam up. If it is that way, then the only thing that's added is a magical excuse for why he was unable to open up to her. Replacing drama with melodrama. Replacing "understanding character" with "understanding lore". And even at that, if the theory is true, then why had he no problem talking out with Donnie over a drink or two? Annie was present through the blinker stone. |
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 6, 2019 22:09:31 GMT
Like she made sure to actually tell Annie why she was dying and that Annie herself had the same condition? ...I would not expect too much from Surma. I can't help but wonder if Surma didn't just have so much faith in Tony that it seemed unnecessary to scare her. That even if he couldn't "cure" her, he's definitely find a way to "cure" Annie. That's not to excuse her for not saying anything, but just wondering if that was her thought process.
If that was the case, I am still wondering what she was thinking, after Tony had researched for years and not only had he not found a medical cure, he had not even found a medical explanation, i.e. the prerequisite for a cure. |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Feb 6, 2019 22:51:11 GMT
The medium thing might be a good test and maybe an activity the Antimonies could do together. But I will be a little disappointed if Kat hasn't converted the whole bunker facility into a giant Antimony-verifying machine. See, I'm beginning to think while this is a major topic on the forum, the comic/characters have kinda moved on. Minus Paz, I'm not confident anyone is suspicious of either Annie being fake at this point. |
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Post by antiyonder on Feb 6, 2019 23:31:21 GMT
It makes sense: stuff is going well with Courtney and her dad, and then her past self shows up prior to all the reconnecting??? Poor Annie. All she's wanted for a long time is for at least one of her parents to be around for her. If she feels she has her dad back, why would she be suddenly ready to share him? I think it goes a long way toward explaining her petulance, desire to one-up Fannie, and general witchy behavior toward someone who is basically herself. Like any older sibling when a new sibling is born – sometimes the reaction is jealousy and bossiness, rather than joy. Even worse when you can't figure out who's older and who's new. |
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Post by King Mir on Feb 6, 2019 23:59:37 GMT
The short-haired version of Annie comes across as having a questionable set of priorities; apparently, as long as she and Antony are able to mend their relationship, it doesn't matter that the entire Court is under threat from Loup and his forces. I don't think it's strange at all for Antimony or anyone else to think family relationships are more important than pretty much anything else. I mean sure there's a tense situation with the forest, but she's not personally in danger on a daily basis or anything. |
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Post by todd on Feb 7, 2019 0:16:24 GMT
See, I'm beginning to think while this is a major topic on the forum, the comic/characters have kinda moved on. Minus Paz, I'm not confident anyone is suspicious of either Annie being fake at this point. And I suspect that's a major reason for the short-haired Annie's problems with the long-haired Annie. If she was just an impostor, it'd be easy dealing with her (relatively easy, depending on how tough the etheric impersonator was) - just take her down, and the problem's over. But if this really is a sort of "alternate Annie", then the short-haired Annie will have to live with her, share Antony with her, etc. I think that's the source of her hostility. |
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Post by spritznar on Feb 7, 2019 2:34:39 GMT
A "flooding escape room" team-building exercise? If that's the case, Kat's taken this a little to far. i literally had this same thought |
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