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Post by gpvos on Feb 2, 2018 8:15:42 GMT
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Post by bicarbonat on Feb 2, 2018 8:24:33 GMT
I feel like Coyote's gonna conveniently return the memory of Ysengrin's reply, now that Jeanne *is* gone...like some sadistic Zack Morris/Julia Child "time in" jump where Coyote reveals the murderous, deranged wolf pie that's already cooked & ready to march on Gunnerkrigg.
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Post by turion on Feb 2, 2018 9:03:42 GMT
Coyote: "What would you do...?"
I'm somehow guessing "Show the humans how weak they really are", but that's a really wild guess.
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Post by madjack on Feb 2, 2018 9:04:49 GMT
The tension! It goes up again!
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Feb 2, 2018 10:21:54 GMT
Is Coyote reminiscing about Y's memories? It feels like he's rewatching an old memory, put it on pause and is now just having some fun with it.
Coyote's gonna Coyote I guess...
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 2, 2018 11:27:48 GMT
And: would Ysengrin give a different answer today than he gave back then?
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Feb 2, 2018 11:32:03 GMT
The first panel occurred in the past when Ysengrin still had a strong wolf body. I assume all the other panels on this page also occurred in the past and Jeanne didn't, or couldn't, attack Coyote. But is there a shift between the past and the present in between panels?
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Post by arf on Feb 2, 2018 12:22:42 GMT
The first panel occurred in the past when Ysengrin still had a strong wolf body. I assume all the other panels on this page also occurred in the past and Jeanne didn't, or couldn't, attack Coyote. But is there a shift between the past and the present in between panels? There is a shift and it happens on the second row. What would Ysengrin do? Shall we try the experiment? |
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Post by jda on Feb 2, 2018 13:33:05 GMT
Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a memory
No escape fron reality
- Y's -
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Post by gpvos on Feb 2, 2018 14:27:12 GMT
Reality and past are mixing. But that basically always happens when you are looking back at your (or in this case someone else's) memories.
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 2, 2018 14:28:54 GMT
Of course, he monologues to himself. I'm betting, Coyote is his own favorite audience. Who else could truly appreciate his long-term pranks, as well as he?
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Post by fia on Feb 2, 2018 16:02:54 GMT
The first panel occurred in the past when Ysengrin still had a strong wolf body. I assume all the other panels on this page also occurred in the past and Jeanne didn't, or couldn't, attack Coyote. But is there a shift between the past and the present in between panels? There is a shift and it happens on the second row. What would Ysengrin do? Shall we try the experiment? Coyote is a god. Presumably, he can jump in and out of memory-time just as well as he might be able to jump through real time... so maybe this is an indication that he's been trying to calm Y down? Just not in the most ethical way. It is possible Y has been the one, since the first page, consistently trying to infiltrate the Court, and Coyote has just sort of let it happen. No, that seems dubious. Although it is Coyote who created the Annan Waters. What is this trickster playing at?! |
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Post by faiiry on Feb 2, 2018 16:06:12 GMT
I like the added touch of how in panel one, there are two splashes in the water, not one. Pretty gruesome.
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Post by Corvo on Feb 2, 2018 22:27:48 GMT
There is a shift and it happens on the second row. What would Ysengrin do? Shall we try the experiment? Coyote is a god. Presumably, he can jump in and out of memory-time just as well as he might be able to jump through real time... so maybe this is an indication that he's been trying to calm Y down? |
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Post by mturtle7 on Feb 3, 2018 1:12:06 GMT
Coyote is a god. Presumably, he can jump in and out of memory-time just as well as he might be able to jump through real time... so maybe this is an indication that he's been trying to calm Y down? Yeah, I think it's similar to when he inserted himself into Annie's dream. Only now, he's not even inside Ysengrin's actual mind, so there aren't any real people in there to notice him like Annie did. |
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Post by csj on Feb 3, 2018 21:29:08 GMT
A prelude to open warfare? Oh boy.
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Post by todd on Feb 3, 2018 23:41:17 GMT
A prelude to open warfare? Oh boy. I doubt that Coyote really wants a war. For one thing, as I've mentioned before, it would most likely end up with almost everyone dead, and no toys left to play with. For another, a war would mean that the Forest and the Court would be too busy fighting each other to pay attention to him - and we know how much he wants to be the center of attention. (On the other hand, the original legends about Coyote, from what I've read about them, often portray his schemes backfiring on him, so the Court and Wood's relations might end up worsening more than he'd intended, to the point where he'd be unable to check them.) |
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Post by faiiry on Feb 4, 2018 4:39:05 GMT
I don't think anybody in the comic or here in the real world knows what Coyote is thinking. However, at the risk of making myself look dumb for trying to guess what a trickster god is plotting, I think that he does want a war, for whatever reason. For two reasons I think this: 1. The current page. Not sure exactly the context - dream, memory, real life? - but Coyote is deliberately letting Ysengrin know that the ghost is gone. When Ysengrin knows the ghost is gone, probably the first thing he'll do is send another red guy over the water, with more success than last time (ew). Coyote knows this, and yet he tells him anyway. If it's a dream, then it doesn't matter - but if this page is taking place in real life, then Coyote wants a war between the forest and the court, for sure. But this evidence is less solid and relies more on assumptions than my next piece of evidence, which is much more solid. 2. My second reason is very simple. This page. That evil grin. He's not up to any good. Just try and tell me I'm wrong about how evil that grin is. |
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Post by jda on Feb 4, 2018 22:54:06 GMT
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Post by todd on Feb 4, 2018 23:41:12 GMT
Probably not for a while yet. A big war between the Court and the Wood would make it difficult to address the other plot threads. (Not to mention that if the forest started showing enough signs of aggression to suggest an assault on the Court's defenses, the Court would probably evacuate the students to some place well away from the fighting, including Annie and Kat, which would require changing the format so drastically as to make the comic all but unrecognizable.) So I suspect Tom will find ways of delaying the fighting (assuming he's even planning an actual war).
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Post by jda on Feb 5, 2018 0:43:21 GMT
Probably not for a while yet. A big war between the Court and the Wood would make it difficult to address the other plot threads. (Not to mention that if the forest started showing enough signs of aggression to suggest an assault on the Court's defenses, the Court would probably evacuate the students to some place well away from the fighting, including Annie and Kat, which would require changing the format so drastically as to make the comic all but unrecognizable.) So I suspect Tom will find ways of delaying the fighting (assuming he's even planning an actual war). Well, the llink was not about an open war between 2 bands, but about Ysengrin and Renard fight about to come. Since Renard is not a Court "citizen", but a convicted trespasser and criminal Forest dweller, it won't have such repercussions, even if "property" of Annie. Maybe Ysengrin's memory will trick him into crossing to seek Reynardine in a rage? Will the next memory being manipulated be one of the many times Coyote favored Renard over Y's? BTW, the tale ends with Renard being (left for) dead after Y's attacking him in the name of the God that does not lie. Indeed, the names were not chosen lightly. |
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Post by jda on Feb 5, 2018 0:45:39 GMT
BTW, is there any thread that keeps the list of plot lines still unfineshed?
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