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Post by Zox Tomana on Oct 18, 2017 7:01:11 GMT
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Post by arf on Oct 18, 2017 7:09:25 GMT
At this stage, I'm thinking the brainwashing theory still has legs.
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Post by philman on Oct 18, 2017 7:13:53 GMT
Well, of course Tony was never going to make the first move.
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Post by philman on Oct 18, 2017 7:16:38 GMT
At this stage, I'm thinking the brainwashing theory still has legs. All students have a special talent. Maybe winning people over despite having a bland personality happens to be Tony's. If bland personalities never won anybody over then me and half the rest of the world too would still be single!
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Post by Angry Individual on Oct 18, 2017 7:17:38 GMT
I honestly don't understand why people find it hard to believe she might have honestly fallen for him. He's clearly an entirely different person when he's not inside the court's view or surrounded by a lot of people. For all we know, this Tony was the Tony Antimony grew up with (all we really got of past Tony was a pat on the head in a memory).
Obviously, this is super shitty on Surma's part and is completely unfair to James and possibly Tony depending on how he reacts, but yeah.
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Post by stclair on Oct 18, 2017 7:19:37 GMT
Is that an acceptable answer, Tony?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 18, 2017 7:22:47 GMT
Well, of course Tony was never going to make the first move. Heh. Even if he just meant it as a statement of fact and it doesn't really count as a move per se he kinda did when he said her look was sexy. But I was expecting there to be more development than there was between that and the initiation of physical intimacy. And I'm still waiting for the plot twist (and hoping this wasn't it).
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Post by Rasselas on Oct 18, 2017 7:32:39 GMT
Well now there's that chemistry. A lady who takes charge. I approve of this (well, aside from the whole cheating aspect...).
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Post by Anthony on Oct 18, 2017 7:47:42 GMT
"Haha, Surma was pretty obvious about it. That's just how she was." Well, this time it seems Tony can't run away.
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Post by ST13R on Oct 18, 2017 8:13:06 GMT
1 page ago Some people said:
Hehe. Yeah. Totally.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 18, 2017 8:16:22 GMT
I was reading this chapter as a "how they became friends!!!" or "how they developed a crush!" story but now I'm preeetty confused by what's happening. This is a strange first kiss to me: 1) Tony is currently scientifically commenting/analysing Surma, not the most romantic thing 2) Surma's "I WILL SIT ON YOUR LAP WITHOUT ASKING AND KISS YOU BY SURPRISE" method, which I find... questionable 3) The fact she's cheating 4) /This/ is the story Anja is telling to Annie?? Were I Tony I would not be reacting positively at all, though since every time I read a new page of this arc I keep expecting the opposing of what's happening , he'll probably carry her bridal style into the brazilian forest as lens flares go wild around them. (I'm aware that my expectations may come from the fact that I see Surma as a character who wouldn't cheat and kiss people like this, when I have no proof at all that she wouldn't as we know so little about her.) It doesn't surprise me that Surma was the one to take this physical but yeah, I'm otherwise reevaluating my opinion of her character while she still had the fire (and I didn't think I knew a great deal about her before). Three thots: 1. Some people are driven by their immediate environment more than their ideals. They find it easy to get swept up in the moment. Not saying this is what Surma is thinking (if she's thinking) but Eggers the bf is currently a world away along with any friends who would pass judgement, whereas Anthony is here and not bad looking... 2. Some people do indeed think of sexual relations as a competition or a competitive sport. Making someone want you can be validating even if you have no interest in being with them. Or in the face of being studied like an experimental sample, I suppose making someone sexually attracted to them can be a defense mechanism. 3. So far it's just a kiss. Experiments happen. Back when I was on the dating market I heard "you were just an experiment and now I'm done with you so get over it" more than once (after a lot more than what happened in this chapter happened) and likewise I found out that I wasn't really chemically attracted to a particular person or two after doing stuff like Surma is doing with Anthony now (though I was a lot nicer about breaking it off than some of my exes). "Haha, Surma was pretty obvious about it. That's just how she was." Well, this time it seems Tony can't run away. Technically he could run off into the jungle but it probably wouldn't be smart or a long-term solution. But never underestimate the instinct to run away from awkward social situations; it can trump rational thought. Back in college a friend-of-a-friend came back to his apartment from a date with a new gf and caught an exgf hiding on his balcony (where it is alleged that she hid after hearing them come in after breaking in and snooping through his stuff if not intending to spy on the conclusion of his evening activities). She (the exgf) tried to flee on foot but couldn't outrun him, and so climbed up a tree.
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Post by artezzatrigger on Oct 18, 2017 8:30:09 GMT
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Post by oneandoneis2 on Oct 18, 2017 8:45:05 GMT
I was kind of hoping the story of how Surma fell for Tony would be a bit more involved than "They spent a bit of time together", personally..
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Post by faiiry on Oct 18, 2017 10:06:59 GMT
Things are moving a liiiitle fast for my taste. These two have been hanging out for what, a week? And it took Surma that long to forget her boyfriend of several years? She must have been especially lonely, or something else we're not seeing, because this is kind of unreasonable.
EDIT: Although I have to admit there is no proof that Surma is actually dating our man Eggers at this point in time. Perhaps she simply dreams about his muscles without having any kind of romantic connection to them.
EDIT AGAIN: I am developing a theory that the romantically entangled slugs give off some sort of potent love spell. Although it obviously doesn't work on Tony. Because he's a robot. Watch him respond with vague annoyance on the next page.
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Post by faiiry on Oct 18, 2017 10:21:09 GMT
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 18, 2017 10:47:20 GMT
"There are some that only employ words for the purpose of disguising their thots." -Voltaire
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Post by csj on Oct 18, 2017 11:45:43 GMT
#metoo???
(second, less srs response: 'and that's why the lewd san andreas mod was called hot coffee')
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Post by philman on Oct 18, 2017 12:25:32 GMT
What, you guys are surprised by this? What made you think Surma was such an angel?
This story is told through Annie's eyes, and all of her memories of Surma are those of a little girl about her mother, and thus by their very nature rose-tinted.
In the grand scheme of this story, Surma cheating on a boyfriend who spends most of his time away from the court and not with her is neither anywhere near the worst thing, or particularly unusual in the real world.
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Post by ohthatone on Oct 18, 2017 13:01:28 GMT
Wow, she is very grateful for Tony ridding her of her bug phobia. yeah, I don't approve of cheating, but Surma has proven to be very impulsive so it doesn't surprise me. I have to wonder what her and Egger's relationship is/was like. I think it was based more on the physical and maybe it had started going downhill. She didn't realize/denied it until she saw what Tony had to offer (interesting conversation? better temper? lens flare?)
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Post by Sky Schemer on Oct 18, 2017 13:03:05 GMT
I was kind of hoping the story of how Surma fell for Tony would be a bit more involved than "They spent a bit of time together", personally.. "Spent a bit of time together" is how most relationships begin.
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Post by faiiry on Oct 18, 2017 13:11:24 GMT
This page proves Tony's ineptitude in romantic matters. Second to last panel, he doesn't look surprised at all. "Oh, a pretty girl is sitting suggestively on my lap, must be a Friday." Last panel: "By god, she kissed me. Who could have seen that coming?!"
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Post by dramastix on Oct 18, 2017 13:40:56 GMT
I was kind of hoping the story of how Surma fell for Tony would be a bit more involved than "They spent a bit of time together", personally.. "Spent a bit of time together" is how most relationships begin. Yes this. Anything more convoluted would have just struck me as a bit too much. I definitely get the impression that they've been out there for at least a few weeks at this point, with no one's company but each other; we're just getting the highlights reel. I'll be really interested to see how Tony reacts, though - is Eggers going to come up? And speaking of which - how much does Annie actually know about Surma and Eglamore's relationship? She hasn't seen all the flashbacks we've gotten over the course of the comic; presumably she's aware that they used to date, but does she know about the knife or how close they were? I also highly doubt Annie's getting the story in as much detail as we're getting it. But then we're not getting Anja's narration so who knows.
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Post by yinglung on Oct 18, 2017 13:44:58 GMT
This page proves Tony's ineptitude in romantic matters. Second to last panel, he doesn't look surprised at all. "Oh, a pretty girl is sitting suggestively on my lap, must be a Friday." Last panel: "By god, she kissed me. Who could have seen that coming?!" I sort of read it as [she takes his hand] "Somethings up, better stop talking" [sits in his lap] "What is going on?" [Kiss] "WHAT IS GOING ON?"
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Post by eulalia on Oct 18, 2017 14:33:59 GMT
2) Surma's "I WILL SIT ON YOUR LAP WITHOUT ASKING AND KISS YOU BY SURPRISE" method, which I find... questionable .) Uhh this is my go-to method, and has been well-received thus far by My Type, which, like Surma, is apparently Nerds Who Can't Get The Hint looool. #VenusInAriesThings But, it does look like both Annie and her mom are chronically unsubtle.
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Post by novia on Oct 18, 2017 14:45:30 GMT
This is a strange first kiss to me: 1) Tony is currently scientifically commenting/analysing Surma, not the most romantic thing Uhh no. Speaking from experience, this can be really hot. Like reallllly hot. Imagine someone using the scientific method to figure out the best way to make you ... well, you know. It's a good thing when someone is trying to figure out what makes you tick. (I'm aware that my expectations may come from the fact that I see Surma as a character who wouldn't cheat and kiss people like this, when I have no proof at all that she wouldn't as we know so little about her.) I seem to remember many characters remarking on Surma's fiery nature. 🔥🔥🔥 This page proves Tony's ineptitude in romantic matters. Second to last panel, he doesn't look surprised at all. "Oh, a pretty girl is sitting suggestively on my lap, must be a Friday." Last panel: "By god, she kissed me. Who could have seen that coming?!" I sort of read it as [she takes his hand] "Somethings up, better stop talking" [sits in his lap] "What is going on?" [Kiss] "WHAT IS GOING ON?" I haven't seen anyone comment on this yet, but Surma doesn't just grab Tony's hand, she places it on her hip. Tony is just taking a while to process the situation.
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Post by ctso74 on Oct 18, 2017 14:45:50 GMT
Que the Barry White music. This page proves Tony's ineptitude in romantic matters. Second to last panel, he doesn't look surprised at all. "Oh, a pretty girl is sitting suggestively on my lap, must be a Friday." Last panel: "By god, she kissed me. Who could have seen that coming?!" I might respond the same way. If I trusted the person, and my mind was on something else, I would be thinking "Are they looking to see if I need a haircut? Should I get a trim?" If I didn't rust them, my first thought would probably be "Why are they invading my personal space? Do they have a weapon? I should grab their wrists."
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Post by Elaienar on Oct 18, 2017 14:53:16 GMT
I'm a little confused by all the talk of Surma cheating. Has it been established that she's dating Eglamore at this point in time?
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Post by Nnelg on Oct 18, 2017 14:59:29 GMT
Tony is currently scientifically commenting/analysing Surma, not the most romantic thing If a girl was scientifically analyzing what made me unique, I'd be all over her. That's basically how scientists show their interest in something: by enthusiastically trying to understand everything there is to know about it. If Tony wasn't personally interested, he might still collect data for science's sake, but he wouldn't be discussing early conclusions over breakfast. Surma, on the other hand, expresses interest in a different way...
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Post by fish on Oct 18, 2017 15:21:24 GMT
I'm a little confused by all the talk of Surma cheating. Has it been established that she's dating Eglamore at this point in time? We don't have an explicit timeline and now that I think about it, it has never actually been explicitly stated. But it's very heavily implied that they were dating for a long time, probably started shortly after this incident. In later flashbacks we either see Surma and James close together, or Surma complaining about him beeing away on his training trips. She even does it in the current chapter which is the probably the strongest indication that, yes, they are currently dating. It's not 100% certain but I'm pretty sure that's what's going on. And then there's, of course, this page but it could go either way with this scene.
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Post by pyradonis on Oct 18, 2017 15:21:24 GMT
I'm a little confused by all the talk of Surma cheating. Has it been established that she's dating Eglamore at this point in time? No, but we saw her dreaming happily of him, and at one point in time, we see Eggers lament on "how could she coose him over me", which at least strongly suggest that she left Eggers for Tony...which would again suggest, that they were together when she fell in love with Tony.
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