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Post by KMar on Jul 3, 2017 19:32:48 GMT
I'm very much intrigued. It's probably Anthony, but I want it to be someone REALLY unexpected, like the reanimated corpse of Diego or something OwO My thoughts exactly. No further comments.
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Post by phantaskippy on Jul 3, 2017 20:04:55 GMT
Interested doesn't mean they personally want to use the technology.
Jones is my first guess, she is a watcher, and she missed Diego, and now Kat is working her way back to that place. Jones has supported both Annie and Kat and kept secrets, I think it is quite likely the watcher is taking sides and is too personally involved this time. I think she and the Shadow Men are connected.
Anthony very well could be involved. So much we don't know means he could have any number of reasons to want Kat to succeed, main one I could see being his work to save his wife, it may have led him in this direction, but he couldn't do what Kat can.
Coyote. This could be where we see Coyote's interests manifest, not as likely, but still possible.
The King of the robots. His interest and value is pretty obvious.
Whoever leads the Seraphs, if they have a leader, that leader would be very important, and likely old.
I can't think of anyone else that would be their trump card. The way they presented this, whoever it is has to be a big enough deal to swing Kat. This is their big play, it has to be someone Kat would either respect highly, or someone who can help Kat succeed.
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Post by sound on Jul 3, 2017 21:00:26 GMT
Hmm... "a colleague ... they wish to work with you."
By the pronoun, not sensing alot of Anthony. My guess is Jones (not human - or indeed sexually dimorphic biological life, therefore gendered pronouns technically doesn't apply), or some robot, possibly unknown to us.
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Post by Zox Tomana on Jul 3, 2017 21:56:44 GMT
Someone remind me who Shell and Aata are? I'm seeing these names bandied about, but can't recall who they be.
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Post by arf on Jul 3, 2017 22:45:01 GMT
I do hope this is a setup for THE RETURN OF DR RANDY DISASTER!Like many others, I had been thinking Jones or Tony. I find this amusing because a couple of pages ago I was commenting that "Creation of the Humanoids" would surely rank with "The Price" in Randy's movie collection.
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Post by arf on Jul 3, 2017 23:10:56 GMT
Come to think of it, "Randy Disaster" is a... disastrous term!
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 3, 2017 23:38:30 GMT
Someone remind me who Shell and Aata are? I'm seeing these names bandied about, but can't recall who they be. Shell is the woman with short hair, Aata is the bald guy.And it's obviously Aata they are talking about. Buddha here knows a thing or two about reincarnation and switching to a new body!
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 3, 2017 23:45:44 GMT
Come to think of it, I would like it to be Anthony or Donald simply because the two of them still have so many secrets about them to uncover. But of all the names dropped until now, that person from Cardiff seems to be the most sensible, having a background in soul transferring and androgynous enough that Juliette does not know their actual gender, or if they even have one.
Neither of them seems to be someone the Shadowmen would call a "colleague" though. Maybe it really will be a new character from the ranks of the Shadowmen. Maybe THAT one will be the O'Brien who claims to be on the dissenter's side while really collecting information to turn both Kat and Juliette/Arthur over to the Thought Police.
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Post by todd on Jul 4, 2017 0:02:39 GMT
Going out further on a limb, it could also be someone who up until now has not been seen outside of flashbacks: Brinnie. Given her connection to the gods, she might have a better idea of how to create organic life than anyone else in the Court. But, then, she may also see less of an incentive to help Kat. While I don't think Brinnie is too likely, I do find her a tempting candidate - actually, tempting for any role in the present-day part of the story. Brinnie was introduced as in the same photograph with the parents (all four) of the two leading characters, three of whom (the surviving three) are now working at the Court, and all of whom (including the deceased Surma) have had prominent roles in the story. So has the fifth person in the photograph (Eglamore). But Brinnie herself has only appeared in flashbacks and has had a far less notable role in the story so far - a bit character in the same photograph as five important figures. (No wonder people used to speculate she was a younger version of Jones.) Now, this may simply be realism - a tone of "sometimes minor characters stand alongside the major ones". But it does get me wondering whether Brinnie will have some role in the present-day part of the story to come, to justify her presence in that photograph. (Though I've also suspected that Tom put her in just to provide symmetry in the photograph, and never had any big plans for her.) I won't try to guess who the mysterious person interested in Kat's work is, though. I don't think we've enough information for that yet.
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Post by The Anarch on Jul 4, 2017 1:43:25 GMT
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Post by jda on Jul 4, 2017 3:56:14 GMT
The faeries! <Snuffle*>
*Pronounced correctly
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Post by atteSmythe on Jul 4, 2017 4:01:41 GMT
Plot twist: it's Paz.
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Post by Rasselas on Jul 4, 2017 4:13:14 GMT
I think it's going to be Jack's father. No, seriously. Why? I don't know. He has been mentioned before and never used again. Tom wouldn't do that, would he? Okay, for real, I think it's going to be someone we haven't seen yet. None of the offered candidates make much sense to me. These two would know that Kat knows Anthony, or who her parents are, it would be weird. It could be a robotic colleague, but I don't know about that. Oh! Maybe the weather mantis?!
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Post by warrl on Jul 4, 2017 4:30:30 GMT
Okay, everyone, challenge: 1) Pick a person or being, alive (or at least around in some fashion) in the "present" time, that it would be simply absurd to think they are the unidentified colleague. 2) Come up with a sensible (albeit probably thin and/or lacking in supporting evidence) basis for thinking it's that person. I nominate Bud. Reason: as cheerful as he sounds, he's long harbored an inferiority complex about being so much smaller than females of his species - including, but not limited to, his wife. He's hoping to move them both into new bodies of a species where they are least close to the same size, preferably with him slightly larger. (Am I serious? Come on, read the challenge!)
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Post by arf on Jul 4, 2017 6:29:30 GMT
Someone remind me who Shell and Aata are? I'm seeing these names bandied about, but can't recall who they be. Shell is the woman with short hair, Aata is the bald guy.And it's obviously Aata they are talking about. Buddha here knows a thing or two about reincarnation and switching to a new body! Wow! Without saying so, they were depicted as the Shadow Men back then.
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Post by ST13R on Jul 4, 2017 6:40:30 GMT
I think it's going to be Jack's father. No, seriously. Why? I don't know. He has been mentioned before and never used again. Tom wouldn't do that, would he? Okay, for real, I think it's going to be someone we haven't seen yet. None of the offered candidates make much sense to me. These two would know that Kat knows Anthony, or who her parents are, it would be weird. It could be a robotic colleague, but I don't know about that. Oh! Maybe the weather mantis?! Jack's father would be an interesting twist I mean, Jack has quite an affinity with robots, it may come from the fact he has been around his father's research project?
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Post by The Anarch on Jul 4, 2017 7:17:05 GMT
The most dangerous one of all!
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Post by Jota on Jul 4, 2017 12:11:22 GMT
Has no one else suggested the one character we know of who already has extensive experience transferring his consciousness from one body to another? Including inorganic ones? As long as they at least have eyes?
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 4, 2017 12:59:28 GMT
Do you remember this page? Many many characters were speculated to be under that mask, several times Anthony's name was dropped. But it was just some dude we had never seen before.
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Post by Runningflame on Jul 4, 2017 16:03:56 GMT
I think it's going to be Jack's father. No, seriously. Why? I don't know. He has been mentioned before and never used again. Tom wouldn't do that, would he? Okay, for real, I think it's going to be someone we haven't seen yet. None of the offered candidates make much sense to me. These two would know that Kat knows Anthony, or who her parents are, it would be weird. It could be a robotic colleague, but I don't know about that. Oh! Maybe the weather mantis?! Jack's father would be an interesting twist I mean, Jack has quite an affinity with robots, it may come from the fact he has been around his father's research project? Affinity?(Oh, you mean affinity. Yeah, I suppose that's true.)
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Post by Runningflame on Jul 4, 2017 16:06:54 GMT
Has no one else suggested the one character we know of who already has extensive experience transferring his consciousness from one body to another? Including inorganic ones? As long as they at least have eyes? I don't believe anyone has (on this page). My reason for thinking it's not him: if he wanted to participate in Kat's work, all he'd have to do was ask her. Whoever this is, it's somebody who wouldn't approach Kat directly but would go through the Shadow Men to contact her.
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Post by Elysium on Jul 5, 2017 6:36:54 GMT
I do hope this is a setup for THE RETURN OF DR RANDY DISASTER!I'm boarding this train with no survivors.
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 5, 2017 11:23:08 GMT
Has no one else suggested the one character we know of who already has extensive experience transferring his consciousness from one body to another? Why would Renard go this way? Whoever that may be was inquiring via Juliette or Arthur rather than Annie or S13, or applying directly to Kat. Which suggests that this prospective colleague probably either: A) Is not personally acquainted with Kat and needs third party to introduce and explain how they all know this (she doesn't exactly publish her work via arxiv.org), and guessed (correctly) that this pair would have a better standing with Kat. B) Has a specific reason to avoid applying personally AND use some mediator who isn't Annie. C) Wants to be roundabout about it for the sake of relations with these two for some reason. This may be a Seraph, however. They (with ill-defined scope) were "banished", thus one of them would want to procure Kat's explicit permission via 3rd party before meeting her again. They also are in the know already... and while avoiding the Court officials, are dealing with the specific interested parties (e.g. Loveboat).
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Post by Runningflame on Jul 5, 2017 18:51:21 GMT
Okay, everyone, challenge: 1) Pick a person or being, alive (or at least around in some fashion) in the "present" time, that it would be simply absurd to think they are the unidentified colleague. 2) Come up with a sensible (albeit probably thin and/or lacking in supporting evidence) basis for thinking it's that person. I nominate Bud. Reason: as cheerful as he sounds, he's long harbored an inferiority complex about being so much smaller than females of his species - including, but not limited to, his wife. He's hoping to move them both into new bodies of a species where they are least close to the same size, preferably with him slightly larger. (Am I serious? Come on, read the challenge!) Actually, now that I think about it more, Bud makes a lot of sense. I dunno about the reasons you've mentioned (he and Lindsey seem pretty happy as they are); but he doesn't need to have a personal motive for getting in on Kat's research. Juliette just says that her colleague "wish[es] to work with you." And Bud and Kat hit it off pretty well in Faraway Morning; he seems quite interested in whatever she's diagramming. So he could want to work with her because he respects her intellect and thinks whatever she makes will be fascinating.
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Post by bgb16999 on Jul 6, 2017 23:43:04 GMT
For that matter, it could be Lindsey just as easily as Bud. Or both, for that matter.
I notice Reynard is absent from the poll, despite the fact that he obviously has some experience with moving between bodies. However, it would make absolutely no sense for Rey to have asked Julliette first, instead of just going straight to Kat, considering that Rey would need Kat's permission to get involved with anything big, even if it wasn't specifically her work that he wanted to get involved with. (That said, it's entirely possible Rey will end up helping Kat and whoever the mystery colleague is).
My bet is on Anthony as the single most likely person, with Kat's parents collectively as another contender. Brinnie is my wild card, just because we haven't seen her outside a flashback and I want to see her at some point.
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Post by todd on Jul 7, 2017 0:15:58 GMT
My bet is on Anthony as the single most likely person, with Kat's parents collectively as another contender. Brinnie is my wild card, just because we haven't seen her outside a flashback and I want to see her at some point. Kat's parents would most likely approach her directly, without needing an intermediary.
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