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Post by pyradonis on Jun 25, 2017 8:51:07 GMT
I see page 1849 already. Am I supposed to see it already? Am I the only one? Is this intentional? What is the world coming to? What is the meaning of life? What can cange the nature of a man? Tom Siddell : I will delete this thread on your request. But I assume this really is just the following page having come a little early? Until then, I will celebrate being so quick to create the discussion thread for the new page - almost a day in advance. Anyway, more research carried out by Court employees that the Court itself does not deem worthwile.
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Post by dramastix on Jun 25, 2017 12:46:11 GMT
I honestly thought I'd slept through Sunday for a moment when I checked my RSS feed this morning. It was very disconcerting.
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Post by fia on Jun 25, 2017 13:22:51 GMT
At this point, I just wanna know: who even IS the Court???
In the olden days I had thought it was just those men with symbols, or persons in the bodyguard role, or that one dryad and her husband (before it was revealed she was a dryad); now I'm left with just Llanwellyn and whoever he is close to. But if so, why does everyone always refer to "The Court" as something with a concrete opinion? There is no way Llanwellyn knows and understands everything required of something so fearsome and collected as The Court.
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Post by ST13R on Jun 25, 2017 14:28:24 GMT
Oooh, a new page already I'm wondering if they've done some research into Rey's ability... Also, I miss that guy; and shadow 2.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jun 25, 2017 15:32:31 GMT
I see page 1849 already. Am I supposed to see it already? Am I the only one? Is this intentional? What is the world coming to? What is the meaning of life? What can cange the nature of a man? Tom Siddell : I will delete this thread on your request. But I assume this really is just the following page having come a little early? Until then, I will celebrate being so quick to create the discussion thread for the new page - almost a day in advance. Anyway, more research carried out by Court employees that the Court itself does not deem worthwile. Tom is traveling. I believe he uses an automatic publication feature and I assume this page was programmed for the wrong date. Enjoy it now, because the two day wait for the next page may just be deferred to tomorrow and Tuesday. At this point, I just wanna know: who even IS the Court??? In the olden days I had thought it was just those men with symbols, or persons in the bodyguard role, or that one dryad and her husband (before it was revealed she was a dryad); now I'm left with just Llanwellyn and whoever he is close to. But if so, why does everyone always refer to "The Court" as something with a concrete opinion? There is no way Llanwellyn knows and understands everything required of something so fearsome and collected as The Court. "... es a collection of people, working to do what they think is right." EDIT... The transference of consciousness is often seen a potential way to be immortal. Transfer your consciousness to a new body, or into a computer, before your old body dies. I would think the Court would be interested in that. *ninja'ed by fish* RE-EDIT... When i first read this page, I assumed Juliette and Arthur were researching transferring Arthur's conscious. Maybe they were researching transferring Juliette's conscious into a robot body so she could continue living with Arthur past her time. Now they've discovered Kat's work and it offers a new possibility.
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Post by fish on Jun 25, 2017 15:49:43 GMT
How can the Court not be interested in consciousness transfer?
Or maybe Juliette and Arthur just think they are working in secret.
Or are they dabbling in etheric stuff? That would explain the lack of interest.
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Post by jda on Jun 25, 2017 19:19:08 GMT
I honestly thought I'd slept through Sunday for a moment when I checked my RSS feed this morning. It was very disconcerting. Me too, mate! I had to check the calendar
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Post by jda on Jun 25, 2017 19:31:40 GMT
How can the Court not be interested in consciousness transfer? Or maybe Juliette and Arthur just think they are working in secret. Or are they dabbling in etheric stuff? That would explain the lack of interest. "The" Court is well versed in reverse psychology, and find ways to motivate and keep their subjects advancing in their research branchs, but w/o them knowing, lest they rebel on principle alone. [/wildspec] The Court is a secret Diego's procedure, being "subconciously" executed specially in robots programming, but also on human conditioning, a la 1986's BigBrother. . In that way, noone is THE court, as There was no Single BigBrother, and even the only one that was "in charge" was following a script and was also mind-programmed.
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Post by fish on Jun 25, 2017 19:34:55 GMT
EDIT... The transference of consciousness is often seen a potential way to be immortal. Â Transfer your consciousness to a new body, or into a computer, before your old body dies. Â I would think the Court would be interested in that. I was thinking a long the lines of immortality as well. Could this be part of the Court's "endeavour to become god"?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 25, 2017 23:47:24 GMT
How can the Court not be interested in consciousness transfer? Or maybe Juliette and Arthur just think they are working in secret. Or are they dabbling in etheric stuff? That would explain the lack of interest. Is agree, from what we've seen in the comic I think Juliet is telling the truth about that... they need an etheric shortcut to make consciousness transfer work therefore the Court doesn't see a valid avenue (from their perspective) to make it a priority for research right now. That said, if I were Kat I wouldn't trust Juliette and Arthur. Even if the Court doesn't question her loyalty right now, Juliette is a spook (counter-intelligence) who is here telling her assigned surveillance subject that her employment as a spook is just a convenience and she wants a favor. If she's telling the truth I think it's very likely that if push comes to shove they'll burn Kat if it becomes convenient (say, to offer the Court something if they get in trouble) or useful for getting what they want, and I'm not entirely sure they're settled on what they want. That means the goal posts in this equation are subject to unexpected shifts. If she isn't telling the truth then she'll report whatever Kat does and says to the Court. Either way...
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Jun 26, 2017 2:10:27 GMT
Consciousness transfer technology also sounds like something Reynardine would be interested in
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Post by csj on Jun 26, 2017 2:27:12 GMT
Transferral of Arthur's consciousness to a human body, eh? Arthur will never be played by Robin Williams in a film adaptation. But one can imagine...pfffftttthaHAHAHAaAAAAa....
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Post by The Anarch on Jun 26, 2017 4:04:17 GMT
Consciousness transfer technology also sounds like something Reynardine would be interested in Come to think of it, that may be precisely why the Court isn't pursuing it.
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Post by arf on Jun 26, 2017 7:51:30 GMT
I suspect the update glitch may have something to do with local time zones. Anyway, interesting direction. What intrigues me is how come the Court aren't interested* in Anja's "Wonderful Computer" because it used etherics, yet are happy to continue with an etheric/Coyote-driven personality transference when these two may be able to invent a fully scientific version? *Mind you, is the Court interested in *anything*?
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Post by philman on Jun 26, 2017 7:53:42 GMT
Transferral of Arthur's consciousness to a human body, eh? Arthur will never be played by Robin Williams in a film adaptation. But one can imagine...pfffftttthaHAHAHAaAAAAa.... Who says that was the direction they were interested in?
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Post by arf on Jun 26, 2017 8:56:45 GMT
Transferral of Arthur's consciousness to a human body, eh? pfffftttthaHAHAHAaAAAAa.... Who says that was the direction they were interested in? Of course, Robot's auditory sensors are all a-waggle over this exchange.
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Post by Azash on Jun 26, 2017 8:58:59 GMT
Fridge thoughts: Where do they get the bodies to transfer consciousness to?
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Post by kreiri on Jun 26, 2017 9:29:33 GMT
Is that Tom's mistake or Juliette's?
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Post by ctso74 on Jun 26, 2017 13:14:17 GMT
"...conducting research into the transference of consciousness." How? Were there test subjects? Did they try to transfer a Boxbot into a squirrel?... Why would they treat a squirrel so horribly?
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Post by youwiththeface on Jun 26, 2017 13:45:40 GMT
Fridge thoughts: Where do they get the bodies to transfer consciousness to? Folks who donate their bodies to science?
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Post by ST13R on Jun 26, 2017 14:43:44 GMT
Fridge thoughts: Where do they get the bodies to transfer consciousness to? Folks who donate their bodies to science? I guess they could still use the bodies that the Court grows, just finding another way to transfer the conciousness... Though it'd be funny to see if they have tried to transfer conciousness to, let's say, a rock.
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Post by ohthatone on Jun 26, 2017 15:35:15 GMT
Folks who donate their bodies to science? I guess they could still use the bodies that the Court grows, just finding another way to transfer the conciousness... Though it'd be funny to see if they have tried to transfer conciousness to, let's say, a rock. Guh, don't give them ideas. They may try to create their own Jones.
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Post by Trillium on Jun 26, 2017 15:40:04 GMT
The Court can grow human bodies. Coyote can transfer an animal's soul/being into a totem. The Court technicians can with a ritual taught to them by Coyote transfer the animal's soul into a freshly grown human body. We know fairies do something similar except they have to have their original bodies killed off first. This is a very interesting setup considering how involved Coyote is and how much conflict exists between the Court and Coyote but that's another discussion. Tossing in robots who want to have human bodies is an interesting twist. Even though they may be self aware do they have souls that can be transfered?
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Post by ohthatone on Jun 26, 2017 15:41:12 GMT
At this point, I just wanna know: who even IS the Court??? In the olden days I had thought it was just those men with symbols, or persons in the bodyguard role, or that one dryad and her husband (before it was revealed she was a dryad); now I'm left with just Llanwellyn and whoever he is close to. But if so, why does everyone always refer to "The Court" as something with a concrete opinion? There is no way Llanwellyn knows and understands everything required of something so fearsome and collected as The Court. I suspect Llanwellyn is the face/voice of yet another shadowy committee that runs things. I don't think we've actually met the Court yet.
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 26, 2017 16:10:20 GMT
At this point, I just wanna know: who even IS the Court??? In the olden days I had thought it was just those men with symbols, or persons in the bodyguard role, or that one dryad and her husband (before it was revealed she was a dryad); now I'm left with just Llanwellyn and whoever he is close to. But if so, why does everyone always refer to "The Court" as something with a concrete opinion? There is no way Llanwellyn knows and understands everything required of something so fearsome and collected as The Court. "... es a collection of people, working to do what they think is right." This seems to be brought up regularly, but it is only Paz's opinion, and I honestly doubt she sees the whole picture.
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 26, 2017 16:11:49 GMT
Consciousness transfer technology also sounds like something Reynardine would be interested in Why? He already can do that with any natural or artificial body, as long as it has eyes and is not warded. And Coyote keeps Reynardine's original fox body in the forest.
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Post by ohthatone on Jun 26, 2017 17:39:46 GMT
Consciousness transfer technology also sounds like something Reynardine would be interested in Why? He already can do that with any natural or artificial body, as long as it has eyes and is not warded. And Coyote keeps Reynardine's original fox body in the forest. He really only wanted the power in the first place for the wooing, but if he wanted out of the toy body and wanted another option besides his original, he'd probably like to know how to do that without killing the host.
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Post by fish on Jun 26, 2017 18:40:32 GMT
Anyway, interesting direction. What intrigues me is how come the Court aren't interested* in Anja's "Wonderful Computer" because it used etherics, yet are happy to continue with an etheric/Coyote-driven personality transference when these two may be able to invent a fully scientific version? *Mind you, is the Court interested in *anything*? As far as I recall the body-soul-transfer thing is done solely in order to allow Forest creatures into the Court. This is an old agreement they need to uphold with Coyote (although I'm not sure which side requested it first), so they do it because they must, but they don't particularly care about the Foley students afterwards (hence Shadow could hide there in plain sight) Also: I think so far the only Court interest we can be reasonably sure of is a) messing with the ether via weird power stations and b) building/researching the Omega Device. Although they seem to enjoy surveilling people quite a bit as well.
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Post by todd on Jun 27, 2017 0:16:38 GMT
This seems to be brought up regularly, but it is only Paz's opinion, and I honestly doubt she sees the whole picture. I did wonder, after Juleette and Arthur revealed the real reason for their visit, if this might be intended as another step in Kat's perspective on the Court (and possibly the audience's). We know that Kat's been extremely distrustful and suspicious towards the Court ever since she found out about how the Founders murdered Jeanne, displaying it even in the most recent chapter. Now she sees that a couple of the people spying upon her have different, and more sympathetic, goals than just power, control, and unscrupulous scheming. While I don't expect the comic to ever reach the point where Kat will excuse Jeanne's murder (I certainly hope it won't), I think it is leading her to a point where she'll see the people running the place as more than just a band of ruthless, conniving conspirators straight out of the Inner Party in "1984" or N.I.C.E. in "That Hideous Strength".
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 27, 2017 10:51:10 GMT
Why? He already can do that with any natural or artificial body, as long as it has eyes and is not warded. And Coyote keeps Reynardine's original fox body in the forest. He really only wanted the power in the first place for the wooing, but if he wanted out of the toy body and wanted another option besides his original, he'd probably like to know how to do that without killing the host.
He can assume other forms besides the plush toy. If Kat gave him freedom, he could take a better artificial body as well.
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