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Post by Gotolei on May 25, 2016 7:02:31 GMT
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Post by speedwell on May 25, 2016 7:04:00 GMT
"Your assessment results don't really leave you a lot of other options", haha. Poor Bugsy.
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Post by mithrandir on May 25, 2016 7:13:55 GMT
Well, at least this is consistent with the Court's disinterested attitude toward all things ethereal, except as experimental fodder.
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Post by noone3 on May 25, 2016 7:18:40 GMT
[George Bernard Shaw]
That's so mean, Tom... and sooo true. In case of oh, so many teachers there...
Luckily we get the other kind as well.
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Post by KMar on May 25, 2016 7:20:22 GMT
Such a grand naming ceremony. I'm sure Annie and the others are impressed!
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Post by arf on May 25, 2016 7:22:14 GMT
Vocation Officer, eh? Of course, we don't know why it was such a happy day for Bugsy. Perhaps she then went on to read this. |
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Post by Elysium on May 25, 2016 7:25:07 GMT
Annie is far from impressed.
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Post by noone3 on May 25, 2016 7:35:18 GMT
Vocation Officer, eh? Of course, we don't know why it was such a happy day for Bugsy. Perhaps she then went on to read this. She does not strike me as a reading kind of teacher. Still, her attitude fits well with her flock, so who am I to judge. Annie is far from impressed. She might be overimpressed there. Hence the face. |
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Post by Timberwere on May 25, 2016 7:39:38 GMT
Annie is far from impressed. And rightly so. What a bunch of *censored curseword* |
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Post by philman on May 25, 2016 7:46:58 GMT
Bugsy is still the only adult former fairy we have seen (Apart from Red, I suppose she became an adult when Annie gave her her name?), and if she was shoved into a teaching role due to low results, this only opens the question up more of what do the other adult former forest creatures do. I am sure Annie is going to ask in the future.
Also, if some forest creatures already have names, like <snuffle>, what happens if they become humans, do they lose their names and have to be awarded new ones when they qualify?
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Post by Sky Schemer on May 25, 2016 7:53:52 GMT
Clearly Annie doesn't appreciate a good Barry Levinson film.
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Post by gwydion on May 25, 2016 8:06:02 GMT
(Blows cobwebs off Forum account)
Is "Can't Remember" scrub a younger Tony? Cause the chin and ears look Tony-ish.
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Post by stclair on May 25, 2016 8:50:29 GMT
I suspect a lot of them get given Newcomer-style names (Alien Nation).
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Post by rafk on May 25, 2016 8:56:24 GMT
It's heartbreaking how much pride the fairies take in being given names which the humans don't give a toss about. To them, Bugsy is only good for continuing the cycle of willing slavery which is going on here.
Of course, the fairies also seem happy in their blissful ignorance and we haven't seen what happens to the OTHER adult fairies....I have a nasty feeling that it's much worse.
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Post by Daedalus on May 25, 2016 9:05:12 GMT
Honestly, Annie's face in the last panel describes my feelings about the experiences of the fairies in the Court - it's not precisely my business, and they seem to be okay with it, but I'm vaguely concerned on their behalf.
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Post by TBeholder on May 25, 2016 10:15:37 GMT
I think we are seeing Unmemorable Scrub. |
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Post by keef on May 25, 2016 10:35:47 GMT
As I won't be able to get this song out of my mind for days, why not burden you all with it:
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Post by youwiththeface on May 25, 2016 10:53:44 GMT
So until they get their names, the ex-fairies and animals do all the work the Court wants them to do, and they have no idea that just anybody or anything can give them their names and let them stop.
This is getting more and more uncomfortable by the page.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on May 25, 2016 11:05:57 GMT
It's heartbreaking how much pride the fairies take in being given names which the humans don't give a toss about. To them, Bugsy is only good for continuing the cycle of willing slavery which is going on here. Of course, the fairies also seem happy in their blissful ignorance and we haven't seen what happens to the OTHER adult fairies....I have a nasty feeling that it's much worse. So until they get their names, the ex-fairies and animals do all the work the Court wants them to do, and they have no idea that just anybody or anything can give them their names and let them stop. This is getting more and more uncomfortable by the page. This page almost seals it for me. I don't think the Court is as bad/exploitative as this chapter first made it appear. I think this is the Court's way of dealing with what it considers an annoyance. But it reopens the question about why the Court is letting anyone from the Forest into the Court. Maybe the Court is more charitable towards Foley students who show more aptitude than Bugsy, although the flip side is what the Court may do with Foley students who aren't as compliant as Bugsy. |
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Post by keef on May 25, 2016 11:29:04 GMT
I'm wondering what will happen if Annie tells them they could name each other... Looking at Annie's face at the moment she might be thinking about that possibility.
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Post by ctso74 on May 25, 2016 13:24:37 GMT
Annie: "So that's why the Trash-bot assistant is named "Kindergarten Cop"."
What are the odds that more "able" Foleys end up working on the Omega Device? Maybe I'm judging the Court to harshly, but I don't see this as being altruistic.
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Post by Trillium on May 25, 2016 13:27:24 GMT
I'm wondering what will happen if Annie tells them they could name each other... Looking at Annie's face at the moment she might be thinking about that possibility. Is it possible that they can't name each other or themselves? Just a thought. |
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Post by darlos9d on May 25, 2016 14:19:49 GMT
Annie: "So that's why the Trash-bot assistant is named "Kindergarten Cop"." What are the odds that more "able" Foleys end up working on the Omega Device? Maybe I'm judging the Court to harshly, but I don't see this as being altruistic. Gonna be honest... these fairies are kinda stupid and annoying and I sure wouldn't want to deal with them on a regular basis. Like we seem to be jumping to accusing the court of not understanding and/or exploiting these people, while at the same time these people don't seem to have the wherewithal to comprehend some pretty obvious things about how the court people regard things differently than them. Like, how hard it it to come to the conclusion that non-forest people regard names differently? You don't have to be a genius to pick up clues about other cultures. Though that brings me to a point I kinda agree on: chances are the smart ones are somewhere else, doing something more important. Kinda like that one person overseeing the growth of snuffle's body. They seemed to have their wits about them. |
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Post by birdwhisperer on May 25, 2016 16:54:32 GMT
[George Bernard Shaw] That's so mean, Tom... and sooo true. In case of oh, so many teachers there... Luckily we get the other kind as well. As a teacher in training, sob. ;-; Teaching is hard and takes a lot more work than just knowing about a subject. (Though there's a lot of bad teachers I admit.) So until they get their names, the ex-fairies and animals do all the work the Court wants them to do, and they have no idea that just anybody or anything can give them their names and let them stop. This is getting more and more uncomfortable by the page. It's heartbreaking how much pride the fairies take in being given names which the humans don't give a toss about. To them, Bugsy is only good for continuing the cycle of willing slavery which is going on here. Of course, the fairies also seem happy in their blissful ignorance and we haven't seen what happens to the OTHER adult fairies....I have a nasty feeling that it's much worse. I'm not sure if this is really 'slavery' so much as a very basic way to say they do school work. They're given data, shown how to work with it, and then do a bunch of stuff with it. That could be the students being made to do work for the court, or it could just be the same kind of work that students everywhere do. Students do a lot of work but it's not like their work benefits anyone, it's just a way for them to learn. Practice. The name part is pretty sad though. |
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Post by matoyak on May 25, 2016 17:13:31 GMT
Ugh, barf. What a terrible sentiment. |
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Post by Trillium on May 25, 2016 17:27:49 GMT
Ugh, barf. What a terrible sentiment. Makes wonder about the quality of teachers in GBS's day. It is also an interesting comment since Shaw was didactic in his writings. |
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Post by Sky Schemer on May 25, 2016 17:34:41 GMT
[George Bernard Shaw] That's so mean, Tom... and sooo true. In case of oh, so many teachers there... Luckily we get the other kind as well. I've always hated this quote because it's so ignorant. It assumes teaching and doing require the same skills. It's also part of the play "Man and Superman", so attributing it to George Bernard Shaw as if it's his voice is more than a little misleading. More accurate: Those who can, do. Those who can't, argue about it in internet forums. |
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Post by yhbc on May 25, 2016 19:11:27 GMT
Kinda like that one person overseeing the growth of snuffle's body. They seemed to have their wits about them. She(?) wasn't a fairy, she (he?) was from Cardiff. |
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Post by matoyak on May 25, 2016 21:24:41 GMT
I've always hated this quote because it's so ignorant. It assumes teaching and doing require the same skills. Yeah, I've always hated it as well. Not only do the two things require different skills, but also because it really puts down teachers into a "we don't need these" group. And nothing could be further from the truth there. yhbc: Something happened with your quote there, I think. |
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Post by keef on May 25, 2016 22:24:58 GMT
[George Bernard Shaw] That's so mean, Tom... and sooo true. In case of oh, so many teachers there... Luckily we get the other kind as well. I've always hated this quote because it's so ignorant. It assumes teaching and doing require the same skills. It's also part of the play "Man and Superman", so attributing it to George Bernard Shaw as if it's his voice is more than a little misleading. More accurate: Those who can, do. Those who can't, argue about it in internet forums. Times have changed. Not long ago an aphorism like this was seen as nothing more than a joke with a grain of truth. I may well have heard it first from my English teacher, that would have been her kind of humour. But I agree that if it is used as put-down of teachers in general it's bad taste. Back on topic; Asking someone who is probably about the worst of her class to become a teacher at your own school shows the lack of respect from the court for the Foley students. Certainly considering that obviously very bright people like Anja and Donald Donlan are teaching Queslett. A further proof of indifference and disrespect toward the forest. I guess in the end the Court is mostly interested in the raw etherical potential of the forest students. |
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