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Post by Nepycros on Aug 10, 2015 7:00:28 GMT
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Post by Gotolei on Aug 10, 2015 7:01:47 GMT
Hello, Ketrak...?
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Post by Chancellor on Aug 10, 2015 7:02:46 GMT
Facial Scars=Check
But this doesn't mean he lost his arm this way, and I'm still betting it doesn't happen until Microsat/Divine, which I'll wager happens after what we're seeing here.
And may I saw DAMN, TOM, THEM'S SOME GOOD LOOKIN' GUIDES RIGHT THAR.
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Post by ed1300 on Aug 10, 2015 7:03:51 GMT
Doubt it, Ketrak is a Psychopomp and knows Annie. Those remind me of a certain wasp... |
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Post by Nepycros on Aug 10, 2015 7:04:09 GMT
Facial Scars=Check But this doesn't mean he lost his arm this way, and I'm still betting it doesn't happen until Microsat/Divine, which I'll wager happens after what we're seeing here. And may I saw DAMN, TOM, THEM'S SOME GOOD LOOKIN' GUIDES RIGHT THAR. Well, whenever he loses the arm, I'm tempted to say it's an improvement. That's not a very attractive forearm hole he's got right there. |
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Post by edzepp on Aug 10, 2015 7:04:10 GMT
"And this is why I look like I got hit by several trucks."
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Post by psybershadow on Aug 10, 2015 7:04:33 GMT
Wait. What if one of the tolls he had to pay WAS his arm and that's the reason he needed Antimony and Donlan to send him the scalpel?
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Post by gunnerwf on Aug 10, 2015 7:05:36 GMT
So the scars weren't from Zimmy. Notice his right arm appears to be bleeding also, perhaps he didn't get that from Zimmy also. I'm kind of getting a obsessed vibe from him.
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Post by Draxiss on Aug 10, 2015 7:06:06 GMT
I just keep thinking about how simple it was for Annie to summon Ketrak, and through him Muut.
I feel like it's going to be ridiculously hilarious when he finds out that if he'd paid even a LITTLE attention to Antimony, he could have saved an absurd amount of time and energy.
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Post by Kya on Aug 10, 2015 7:06:23 GMT
Oh boy, ya messed with the Eldritch Horrors...ya shouldn't a done that...
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Post by edzepp on Aug 10, 2015 7:07:42 GMT
I just keep thinking about how simple it was for Annie to summon Ketrak, and through him Muut. I feel like it's going to be ridiculously hilarious when he finds out that if he'd paid even a LITTLE attention to Antimony, he could have saved an absurd amount of time and energy. I was gonna say. Girl could've spared you a lot of trouble. |
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Post by Chancellor on Aug 10, 2015 7:10:01 GMT
Wait. What if one of the tolls he had to pay WAS his arm and that's the reason he needed Antimony and Donlan to send him the scalpel? Then it's relatively likely that he did not in fact perform the Bone Laser surgery (reasonably assuming he would need to recover before doing something that presumably complex), and the mob of Team Tony users here will have a victory dance around the the raging bonfire that is my corpse. Moreso, if he is not in fact the cause of the events in Divine, it begs the very portentous question of who did, and how Zimmy managed to be confused into believing it was Anthony. |
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Post by edzepp on Aug 10, 2015 7:11:46 GMT
Chancellor: Yeah, that is going to be a weird answer, because something caused that. It wasn't nothing. But somehow it led back to him.
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Post by gunnerwf on Aug 10, 2015 7:12:01 GMT
Wait. What if one of the tolls he had to pay WAS his arm and that's the reason he needed Antimony and Donlan to send him the scalpel? Then it's relatively likely that he did not in fact perform the Bone Laser surgery (reasonably assuming he would need to recover before doing something that presumably complex), and the mob of Team Tony users here will have a victory dance around the the raging bonfire that is my corpse. Moreso, if he is not in fact the cause of the events in Divine, it begs the very portentous question of who did, and how Zimmy managed to be confused into believing it was Anthony. perhaps he didn't use his hand for the bone lasers |
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Post by edzepp on Aug 10, 2015 7:14:08 GMT
Then it's relatively likely that he did not in fact perform the Bone Laser surgery (reasonably assuming he would need to recover before doing something that presumably complex), and the mob of Team Tony users here will have a victory dance around the the raging bonfire that is my corpse. Moreso, if he is not in fact the cause of the events in Divine, it begs the very portentous question of who did, and how Zimmy managed to be confused into believing it was Anthony. perhaps he didn't use his hand for the bone lasers Good point. The fact that it led back to him probably isn't a coincidence, but the matter of whether or not something was done doesn't depend on both limbs. |
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 10, 2015 7:14:47 GMT
Very bug-like. I wonder if at the Mountains of Madness, he ran into some Zimmyburg denizens
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Post by Draxiss on Aug 10, 2015 7:20:51 GMT
Hold on . . . hold on. Look at his eyes in the upper left panel.
THIS IS STAGED, PEOPLE! THOSE'RE LIGHTS FROM A STAGE CAMERA!
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Post by arf on Aug 10, 2015 7:29:10 GMT
I just keep thinking about how simple it was for Annie to summon Ketrak, and through him Muut. I feel like it's going to be ridiculously hilarious when he finds out that if he'd paid even a LITTLE attention to Antimony, he could have saved an absurd amount of time and energy. I was gonna say. Girl could've spared you a lot of trouble. I thought that a couple of pages ago. This is how Tony saw things. The facial distortion looks a bit Zimmy-ish. Tony's now missing right arm appears to have a serious wound in the last panel. Ooh! As someone said, not Ketrak but... wisp eggs! I also note that the amber nectar being trickled into Tony's glass is v. similar to Annie's flame. fire+water=number |
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Post by philman on Aug 10, 2015 7:35:20 GMT
Wait. What if one of the tolls he had to pay WAS his arm and that's the reason he needed Antimony and Donlan to send him the scalpel? Then it's relatively likely that he did not in fact perform the Bone Laser surgery (reasonably assuming he would need to recover before doing something that presumably complex), and the mob of Team Tony users here will have a victory dance around the the raging bonfire that is my corpse. Moreso, if he is not in fact the cause of the events in Divine, it begs the very portentous question of who did, and how Zimmy managed to be confused into believing it was Anthony. I'm wondering now whether the psychopomps might tell him that he needs to contact the specific psychopomp who took Surma. But won't tell him who it was. They then tell him of some weird ritual he must perform to summon the psychopomp, which he carries out, not realising the one who took Surma was Annie. The ritual then doesn't work properly because Annie is still mortal, not a mythical being, and thus causes the events in divine, but by accident. |
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Post by aline on Aug 10, 2015 7:38:40 GMT
Wait. What if one of the tolls he had to pay WAS his arm and that's the reason he needed Antimony and Donlan to send him the scalpel? Then it's relatively likely that he did not in fact perform the Bone Laser surgery (reasonably assuming he would need to recover before doing something that presumably complex), and the mob of Team Tony users here will have a victory dance around the the raging bonfire that is my corpse. Moreso, if he is not in fact the cause of the events in Divine, it begs the very portentous question of who did, and how Zimmy managed to be confused into believing it was Anthony. Oh, he did it alright. It's likely the events in Divine were the direct follow-up to his meeting with the psychopomps. Anyway, while he did get hurt, we can see he still has both his arms.
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Post by Bill on Aug 10, 2015 7:53:30 GMT
I am continually amazed by Tom's art. Nothing drives home his skill quite like the abrupt shifts in style and color palette over the last few pages. Over a decade of practice, but still. One is not at fault to appreciate a master.
Also Tom puts more effort/detail into drawing Tony for routine appearances (not stuff like this page, or in the ether) than any other humans except for occasionally Kat and Annie.
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Post by OrzBrain on Aug 10, 2015 7:53:56 GMT
Let me guess: after a great and terrible quest requiring many sacrifices he obtained the magic artifact/whatever needed to do the job, and was just getting it working when a girl with waaaaaay too much mascara and rather pointy teeth, somehow disturbing on a level beyond all the soul scaring eldritch abominations he had thus far encountered, appeared out of nowhere, ruined everything, said something that incriminated his daughter, and then disappeared?
Communication. It's a thing.
Also, I can't wait to see his reaction when he first meets Zimmy.
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Post by Bill on Aug 10, 2015 8:05:26 GMT
"I saw things I'd never have believed had I not seen them with my own eyes."
Is he aware that Annie grew up seeing things in that category literally on a daily basis? Apparently not judging by how he referred to the psychopomps.
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Post by speedwell on Aug 10, 2015 8:09:07 GMT
Jesus. Aged before his time in a world that isn't quite, but is terrifyingly, real, that can't be got to via physical travel... I am becoming convinced the Omega project has to do with Zimmy and finding out how Zimmy's world works, and that the Court managed to convince Anthony (perhaps cynically) that Zimmy's power had something to do with Surma (if they see etheric power as some sort of homogeneity, they may believe that ALL power is interrelated). I bet he really did think Antimony WAS the girl who punched his lights out, whether he knew about Zimmy or not.
I am looking forward to any meeting between Anthony and Coyote. This is not necessarily a nice thought. Coyote has the ability and possibly the motivation to squash Anthony like a bug in ten well-chosen words and a careless laugh.
I'm seeing something very Lovecraftian in Anthony right now (like who isn't). He's that identical nasty little bastard who typically figures as the hapless, overwhelmed protagonist in so many of Lovecraft's stories, subjected to Things That Shall Not Be Named. All he needs is to start gibbering something about Yog-Sothoth. I'm also reminded, somehow, of the character Weston in C.S. Lewis's Space Trilogy (though the motivations of the character Weston resemble the Court more than any single person in it, and I cringe at taking the comparison as far as That Hideous Strength).
Seconding the recognition of the art in these pages. Awesome stuff.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 10, 2015 8:22:34 GMT
Maybe these strange beings punched Anthony in the face a few times because he tried to charm his way past them or get information out of them. I was gonna say. Girl could've spared you a lot of trouble. I thought that a couple of pages ago. This is how Tony saw things. The facial distortion looks a bit Zimmy-ish. Tony's now missing right arm appears to have a serious wound in the last panel. Ooh! As someone said, not Ketrak but... wisp eggs! I also note that the amber nectar being trickled into Tony's glass is v. similar to Annie's flame. fire+water=number The hair in the last panel looks Zimmy-ish. Also, some old wildspec of mine: here. |
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Post by justcurious on Aug 10, 2015 8:23:47 GMT
Looks like the scalpels in Microsat 5 could be to do with however he treated himself for these injuries, not what he did in Divine. What is happening here is one of Tom's bigger surprises so I'm not going to try to guess what happens next, just go along for the ride.
Agree about the similarity here to Lovecraft's protagonists.
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Post by foresterr on Aug 10, 2015 8:23:58 GMT
I am looking forward to any meeting between Anthony and Coyote. This is not necessarily a nice thought. Coyote has the ability and possibly the motivation to squash Anthony like a bug in ten well-chosen words and a careless laugh. Right side of the middle panel looks awfully like Coyote's etherform. Row of eyes, row of teeth. Just sayin'. Wouldn't be surprised if a nudge in the "right" direction was provided. Hm. Maybe there is more to "this business of being a forest medium ends RIGHT NOW" than it seemed back then. |
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Post by philman on Aug 10, 2015 8:37:31 GMT
Looks like the scalpels in Microsat 5 could be to do with however he treated himself for these injuries, not what he did in Divine. What is happening here is one of Tom's bigger surprises so I'm not going to try to guess what happens next, just go along for the ride. Agree about the similarity her to Lovecraft's protagonists. Well given microsat 5 happens BEFORE divine, yeah. Actually it happens directly before, the chapter before. Further to my previous theory about the events in Divine being due to Tony's attempts to contact the psychopomp that took Surma, not realising it was Annie, the scalpels could easily be to treat his injuries from this encounter, or to cut off his own arm in order to create the ritual/bone laser thing seen in Divine to contact the psychopomp. |
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Post by justcurious on Aug 10, 2015 8:57:31 GMT
Annie has an understandable tendency to idealize parent figures and try to excuse or ignore their failings. She does it with Tony and she did it with Ysingrin.
She needs to learn to see their flaws while still loving them. Coyote taught her this lesson about Ysengrin in a rather brutal manner by sending him temporarily insane. Donnie is trying to teach her this about her father in a more gentle manner.
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Post by scalesandfins on Aug 10, 2015 9:17:30 GMT
"I saw things I'd never have believed had I not seen them with my own eyes." Is he aware that Annie grew up seeing things in that category literally on a daily basis? Apparently not judging by how he referred to the psychopomps. Aside from the sad neglect aspect of this, Anthony's relationship with Etheric things is seeming stranger and stranger. He knows Renard exists; he grew up around Anja's magic; Surma told him what would happen when she had a child; but he's really so much of an empiricist that he didn't believe in his wife's "business" until he personally witnessed it? By what looks like contacting psychopomps via self-induced near death experiences? I mean, the Omega Project is probably Tom's original idea that Zimmy and Gamma came from that predates Annie's invention as a character, and it's probably the Court's attempts to build a machine that can do what Zimmy can do, so I *guess* Tony seeing this stuff as quantum physics instead of a world with people in it makes sense, but dude??? Really??? |
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