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Post by zimmyzims on Nov 10, 2014 8:00:39 GMT
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Post by Xan on Nov 10, 2014 8:05:06 GMT
Was that the page that showed up in error last time?
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Post by arf on Nov 10, 2014 8:06:06 GMT
I foresee some exposition as to how they found Zimmy before the Seraphs.
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Post by Chancellor on Nov 10, 2014 8:07:35 GMT
Was that the page that showed up in error last time? Not yet. We appear to have gotten a fairly distant view of the future. |
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Post by zimmyzims on Nov 10, 2014 8:08:44 GMT
Was that the page that showed up in error last time? No. |
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Post by arf on Nov 10, 2014 8:11:36 GMT
Was that the page that showed up in error last time? No. I suspect that may have been the latest in the buffer and won't be re-appearing for a week or two. We'll let you know when it does. |
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Post by Fishy on Nov 10, 2014 8:12:33 GMT
Bruised ego, Zimmy? She's quieter than I expected all things considered. I wonder if she puts in actual effort to scowl 24/7 or if she just doesn't notice she's doing it.
I doubt Shadow has anything to worry about. If a blade that can cut through anything can't cut him, I don't foresee whatever his mission is being a failure.
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Post by mudmaniac on Nov 10, 2014 8:25:20 GMT
So even being in contact with Gamma isn't collapsing the distortion. I am concerned that if Kat gets only half done with Ship-bot's organic body, it is going to be pretty traumatic end to the school year for everyone.
I really hope that's where Shadow is going.
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 10, 2014 9:30:06 GMT
I doubt Shadow has anything to worry about. If a blade that can cut through anything can't cut him, I don't foresee whatever his mission is being a failure. Two words: laser eyes. |
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Post by alexsl on Nov 10, 2014 10:38:38 GMT
Shadow was most likely not cut by Coyote's tooth because the shadow men are Coyote's creatures, kind of a part of him. That being said, somehow this chapter doesn't feel as if anybody will die in it, quite apart from the fact that the comic has seen very few deaths anyway. There are other ways of making what happens count.
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Post by stef1987 on Nov 10, 2014 10:41:19 GMT
So they apparently found Zimmy without trouble, hm, I don't know about you guys, but I'm rather disappointed in how everything unfolds in this chapter. Was that the page that showed up in error last time? ? what are you talking about? |
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Post by Xan on Nov 10, 2014 10:48:18 GMT
Was that the page that showed up in error last time? ? what are you talking about? On Friday, for a short time a wrong page was up. Tom corrected it, censored out discussion here, and asked everyone who saw it not to spoil it. Apparently, it was further away than just one update. I haven't seen that page. |
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Post by todd on Nov 10, 2014 11:42:41 GMT
An off-stage entering the tower and rescue of Zimmy - I wonder if Tom *is* rushing things and making things too easy for the characters. Still no sign of the horrors of Zimmy's world, which takes away so much of the urgency of their getting away. (In fact, if it wasn't for the possible consequences for everyone on board of Kat making the ship flesh, at the rate things are going, they might as well have sat down to wait for Kat to do just that with a tone of "the sooner she gets it done, the sooner the ship and the Seraphs will switch this condition off".)
Unless all of this is just the lead-up to something bigger.
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Post by goldenknots on Nov 10, 2014 14:01:42 GMT
It would be nice to have a little detail on their search, but it is clear that they found Zimmy and had enough time for her and Jenny to exchange shirts before the Seraphs showed up. Lots of fast maneuvers going on, it'll be easier when all the pages show up (in their proper order, of course!) and one can read the chapter in a sitting.
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Post by Lightice on Nov 10, 2014 14:04:35 GMT
Still kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop. Things seem to have progressed way too smoothly for comfort, to the point where important plot points are being skipped; it feels like there is an entire page missing.
I'm starting to wonder if this is a some kind of Court simulation, after all, testing the capabilities of a handful of students in a crisis situation...
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 10, 2014 14:39:53 GMT
Jack's comment about "the last syphon" implies that there is only one left. There is still room for interpretation, but if he knew there were more than one, then I think Jack would have said "the last syphons". Reynard said he saw four syphons before destroying one to enter the distortion. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1422 ( shadowhunter - thanks for the earlier correction) There have been two BLOOMs since Reynard and the Bots entered the distortion. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1426 www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1427 On those page it wasn't clear if these were all separate events, but it now seems like they were because it would leave just one syphon. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 10, 2014 15:01:25 GMT
Just noticed a couple other things... Jack is talking to Annie in panel four and five. In panel five he says "when you take out the last syphon". So they are planning on having Annie take out the last syphon as she suggested on page 1423. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1423 Shadow's brave mission is not to take out the last syphon. I think he is going to liberate Kat and Paz. I admit that there is a chance Shadow is just supposed to keep the remaining Seraphs distracted, but doing the former will probably accomplish the latter. The students do not appear to waiting for help from Lindsey and we haven't seen what the students think will happen after the distortion collapses. The Bots brought boats, but I only counted 13 www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1417 before at least 3, maybe 5, www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1419 crashed into the distortion. There are up 60 students in each house from a given year (both male and female, both North and South classes, www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=32 ) so there could be as many as 240 students on this cruise (180 if you exclude Foley since we haven't seen any Foley students). Packing up to 30 students on as few as 8 remaining boat may be possible, but won't be seaworthy. |
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Post by ctso74 on Nov 10, 2014 15:36:51 GMT
I doubt Shadow has anything to worry about. If a blade that can cut through anything can't cut him, I don't foresee whatever his mission is being a failure. Two words: laser eyes. That was my first thought, too. How does a 3 dimensional shadow respond to light? I'm hoping well. Things are moving awfully fast (from our POV), and Lindsey is still oddly absent... |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Nov 10, 2014 15:54:17 GMT
Things are moving awfully fast (from our POV), and Lindsey is still oddly absent... I wonder if Lindsey could maintain the distortion after the last siphon is destroyed long enough to evacuate everyone? Annie did say she's incredibly powerful; I can totally see her outside of the distortion field, holding back the slowly-restricting walls of water telepathically while everyone rushes to get out. Bonus cool factor: in the end, you'd have some weird Zimmingham version of Atlantis stuck at the bottom of the sea. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 10, 2014 16:38:13 GMT
Still kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop. Things seem to have progressed way too smoothly for comfort, to the point where important plot points are being skipped; it feels like there is an entire page missing. I'm starting to wonder if this is a some kind of Court simulation, after all, testing the capabilities of a handful of students in a crisis situation... I don't think the Court simulations can read thoughts and adjust themselves based on those thoughts. Kat being able to affect the shape or appearance of things just by thinking about it is a strong indicator that this is not a Court simulation. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1415I wonder if the etheric distortion will have a lasting effect on Kat. The Seraphs never specified which part of reality they intended to alter. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1399 Many things were affected, but maybe the Seraphs really intended to permanently heighten their new Creator's abilities. Makes more sense than the Seraphs caring about the Ship's love for Lindsey. I believe others have suggested that the Seraphs were trying to accelerate the arrival of their RoboGoddess. I still wouldn't go that far, but the ability to both understand and manipulate technology could be a step in that direction. Throw in the Seed Bismuth as the link to etheric energy at the molecular level and you may be on your way. |
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Post by Xan on Nov 10, 2014 16:38:43 GMT
Bonus cool factor: in the end, you'd have some weird Zimmingham version of Atlantis stuck at the bottom of the sea. I like your train of thought here. |
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Post by darlos9d on Nov 10, 2014 16:47:19 GMT
Looks like Shadow Two is going commando. Still kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop. Things seem to have progressed way too smoothly for comfort, to the point where important plot points are being skipped; it feels like there is an entire page missing. I'm starting to wonder if this is a some kind of Court simulation, after all, testing the capabilities of a handful of students in a crisis situation... After reading this page, I literally went back a page thinking I missed something. I didn't. |
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Post by Lightice on Nov 10, 2014 17:01:01 GMT
]I don't think the Court simulations can read thoughts and adjust themselves based on those thoughts. Kat being able to affect the shape or appearance of things just by thinking about it is a strong indicator that this is not a Court simulation. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1415I don't think that it could be a Dr. Disaster-style simulator, but it could be dream manipulation, or something... EDIT: Incidentally, isn't Zimmy wearing a different shirt than last time we saw her? |
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Post by warrl on Nov 10, 2014 17:04:39 GMT
EDIT: Incidentally, isn't Zimmy wearing a different shirt than last time we saw her? Yep. Zimmy is wearing the shirt Jenny was wearing, and vice versa. Made it easier to mislead the seraphs about which was whom. |
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 10, 2014 17:31:22 GMT
An off-stage entering the tower and rescue of Zimmy - I wonder if Tom *is* rushing things and making things too easy for the characters. It would be nice to have a little detail on their search, but it is clear that they found Zimmy and had enough time for her and Jenny to exchange shirts before the Seraphs showed up. Lots of fast maneuvers going on, it'll be easier when all the pages show up (in their proper order, of course!) and one can read the chapter in a sitting. On the one eyestalk, Gunnerkrigg Court is certainly not a bad shonen (a lot of people for some incomprehensible reason expect everything to be crappy-to-mediocre shonen manga), so trimmed "action" parts are expectable - it's mostly beside the point. On the other eyestalk, the reactions could be interesting, especially from Zimmy and on the proposal of exchanging shirt. Jack's comment about "the last syphon" implies that there is only one left. Not necessarily. On those page it wasn't clear if these were all separate events, but it now seems like they were because it would leave just one syphon. The sequence of events in time usually is important. |
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Post by brokshi on Nov 10, 2014 18:02:26 GMT
It could be that they have plans for each syphon and they just set Annie to take down the last one, possibly because she can do it easiest. Alternatively she's going to take them all down but has to be careful for the last one.
I'm more interested in what Shadow is going to do, and what form he'll take to accomplish it.
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Post by eyemyself on Nov 10, 2014 18:43:47 GMT
Just an interesting thing I noticed. Zimmy's arm is positioned in such a way that we can't see her little white circle, however, on the previous page we can see that the shirt Jenny is now wearing does not have one.
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Post by Fishy on Nov 10, 2014 19:05:55 GMT
Just an interesting thing I noticed. Zimmy's arm is positioned in such a way that we can't see her little white circle, however, on the previous page we can see that the shirt Jenny is now wearing does not have one. That's... I didn't even notice that actually. I figured it was a tracker or something, but I never really imagined it was just stuck to Zimmy specifically rather than her clothes. What do you all suppose it is? |
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Post by zimmyzims on Nov 10, 2014 20:25:12 GMT
An off-stage entering the tower and rescue of Zimmy - I wonder if Tom *is* rushing things and making things too easy for the characters. Still no sign of the horrors of Zimmy's world, which takes away so much of the urgency of their getting away. (In fact, if it wasn't for the possible consequences for everyone on board of Kat making the ship flesh, at the rate things are going, they might as well have sat down to wait for Kat to do just that with a tone of "the sooner she gets it done, the sooner the ship and the Seraphs will switch this condition off".) Unless all of this is just the lead-up to something bigger. Still kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop. Things seem to have progressed way too smoothly for comfort, to the point where important plot points are being skipped; it feels like there is an entire page missing. I'm starting to wonder if this is a some kind of Court simulation, after all, testing the capabilities of a handful of students in a crisis situation... My feeling has been, since the beginning of this excursion to Zimmingham, that Tom is sacrificing a lot of credibility in details of this one small part of the story to serve the long story line of the Angel Kat, The Robot Goddess. So, while the story telling in this chapter feels sometimes a little disappointing, it may be because it is not an end in itself, but a means to make some things happen that matter for the long story of GKC. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 10, 2014 20:28:04 GMT
Just an interesting thing I noticed. Zimmy's arm is positioned in such a way that we can't see her little white circle, however, on the previous page we can see that the shirt Jenny is now wearing does not have one. That's... I didn't even notice that actually. I figured it was a tracker or something, but I never really imagined it was just stuck to Zimmy specifically rather than her clothes. What do you all suppose it is? I assumed it was a Gunnerkrigg Court Logo. She is wearing the same grey shirt at the start of Chapter 28 and 38. She also wears a white shirt in Chapters 11, 28, and 38 that also has a circle/emblem on it. I've looked, but I didn't see anything in the white circle. EDIT: Zimmy is wearing the grey shirt in Chapter 11 flashbacks both when she meets Gamma and when the Court agents find them. I guess that nixes the theory that the circle is a GC logo. The white circle is relatively high on the grey (and white) shirts, so I assume it is on the grey shirt Jenny is wearing on page 1429, but panel 3 doesn't have enough detail to show it and it is cut off by the top border in panel 4. |
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