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Post by freeformline on Apr 16, 2014 18:39:17 GMT
Is it just me, then? I see a bird's head in the arrow's ether. Looks like a crow's head, or a raven, perhaps? Two creatures with strong mythical connections that we haven't seen much of before in GKC, unless you include the TicTocs. (Hello... longtime lurker, first time poster.  ) I would be quite pleased if Tom integrated Raven into the story. He's pretty much my favorite mythological figure. |
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Post by lysende on Apr 16, 2014 19:46:17 GMT
Hell (and heaven)is other people. In fact, Sartre was wrong. Hells is self. I mean myself, yourself and especially Sartreself. Heaven doesn't exist. "heaven doesn't exist"? Dude or dudette, we are surrounded by the signs of the Biblical endtimes right now. More than a hundred prophecies have come true in the last 100 years. Israel was predicted to become a nation again in 1948, and it did. meeeebbbbe rethink some things. The end is neigh! Lysende, away! (probs gonna be baraged with atheist's insults, so goodbye forever.) |
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Post by Intelligence on Apr 16, 2014 19:49:17 GMT
Is it just me, then? I see a bird's head in the arrow's ether. Looks like a crow's head, or a raven, perhaps? Two creatures with strong mythical connections that we haven't seen much of before in GKC, unless you include the TicTocs. (Hello... longtime lurker, first time poster. ) I would be quite pleased if Tom integrated Raven into the story. He's pretty much my favorite mythological figure. I'd just want to see him and Coyote interact. Both tricksters and gods...  |
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Post by fwip on Apr 16, 2014 20:05:19 GMT
In fact, Sartre was wrong. Hells is self. I mean myself, yourself and especially Sartreself. Heaven doesn't exist. "heaven doesn't exist"? Dude or dudette, we are surrounded by the signs of the Biblical endtimes right now. More than a hundred prophecies have come true in the last 100 years. Israel was predicted to become a nation again in 1948, and it did. meeeebbbbe rethink some things. The end is neigh! Lysende, away! (probs gonna be baraged with atheist's insults, so goodbye forever.) You can't just say 'more than a hundred' and then walk off. Cite thy sources, doomsayer! We have no problem with alternate points of view - in my observation, this forum is very open-minded - unless those points of view are entirely unsupported. |
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Post by Lightice on Apr 16, 2014 20:33:39 GMT
Israel was predicted to become a nation again in 1948, and it did. I would certainly love to see where such thing was, in fact, predicted. I don't recall any Biblical predictions actually using the Christian calendar. Also, considering that every religion with a judgement day myth has predicted that time to be upon us for the last few thousand years, always during the current living generation, I wouldn't be duly concerned. The very first Christians were convinced that they would get the big show during their own lifetime. More recently, the Jehovah's Witnesses already embarrassed themselves a few times over by the updated version of the same basic idea; at least they finally learned not to declare specific dates. It's easy enough to predict doom and gloom, when there's always some lurking around. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Apr 16, 2014 21:40:02 GMT
The very first Christians were convinced that they would get the big show during their own lifetime. More recently, the Jehovah's Witnesses already embarrassed themselves a few times over by the updated version of the same basic idea; at least they finally learned not to declare specific dates. Funny how many supposedly well-read Christians have forgotten the "thou shall not know the hour of my coming" line. "heaven doesn't exist"? Dude or dudette, we are surrounded by the signs of the Biblical endtimes right now. More than a hundred prophecies have come true in the last 100 years. Israel was predicted to become a nation again in 1948, and it did. meeeebbbbe rethink some things. The end is neigh! Lysende, away! (probs gonna be baraged with atheist's insults, so goodbye forever.) Nobody is going to insult or flame anybody here, but I will politely insist that you support the claim you have made if you expect it to be taken seriously- the same standard we apply to every other aspect of life. Which prophesies? Who were their authors? What did they say, exactly? Was it specific or vague and deliberately left open to wide interpretation? How many times have they been re-translated? Until sources are provided, I think it's safe to say that there is nothing to rethink. Another aspect you have to keep in mind is this: prophecies, especially ones that are religiously and politically motivated (and the two are often one and the same), have a habit of being self-fulfilling. It was claimed that a prophecy said Jerusalem and the Levant belonged to Israel, so the Zionist movement enlisted the help of the great powers to install a Jewish state in the so-called "holy land" at the expense of it's previous occupants. They claimed the prophecy said it would happen, in the hope that it would add legitimacy to their illegal armed invasion and occupation. That is not at all the same as successful prediction. |
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Post by warrl on Apr 16, 2014 22:08:52 GMT
Is it just me, then? I see a bird's head in the arrow's ether. Looks like a crow's head, or a raven, perhaps? Two creatures with strong mythical connections that we haven't seen much of before in GKC, unless you include the TicTocs. (Hello... longtime lurker, first time poster. ) I would be quite pleased if Tom integrated Raven into the story. He's pretty much my favorite mythological figure. But he's busy - he teaches history at Moperville South High School. |
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Post by keef on Apr 17, 2014 0:00:45 GMT
Dang... Whatever they did, must be some srs bsns indeed. Hell (and heaven)is other people. Do you think there's a department specific to keeping detail with the Aether itself? Or maybe the department of reality's logic? Now that'll be trippy, if anyone got in there with shenanigans. (Though I'm not so inclined to think there is one for the latter, myself) The ether might be something like a raw material; the fabric of reality, and anyone who dies before his or her time can help shape it. You can even have a career and become the manager of your local ROTD I wonder how they knew exactly how to make such a thing. Coyote is one option, he did split the 2 sides, he also secretly gave a powerful knife to current group, he isn't always the nicest guy to his own people. insults, so goodbye forever. Insults are rarely used here. Looking at your posts on this forum you have always liked it here, and contributed mostly in a fun way in my opinion. I don't see why my quote and zimmyzims reaction would change that. So I hope you stick around. Just a thought, going of-topic has been discussed here before, but maybe a good rule could be: If it is interesting, fun or completely out of this world it is okay, if it only provokes debate about the "real" world go elsewhere. |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Apr 17, 2014 0:54:19 GMT
Is it just me, then? I see a bird's head in the arrow's ether. Looks like a crow's head, or a raven, perhaps? Two creatures with strong mythical connections that we haven't seen much of before in GKC, unless you include the TicTocs. Yes, I was seeing hints of that too. It occurred to me that we haven't seen much of Brinnie at all, and as ravens feature fairly prominently in Norse mythology, it would be an interesting tye-in. That being said, there's no other hints of a connection between Brinnie's family and the old Court folks that I can see. Maybe I've missed something, though? (Or maybe I'm just so used to overtheorizing that it's second-nature...) |
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Post by Ophel on Apr 17, 2014 9:32:22 GMT
If it is interesting, fun or completely out of this world it is okay, if it only provokes debate about the "real" world go elsewhere. THE FORCES OF LIGHT AND DARKNESS CAN BE COMBINED TO BECOME THE ULTIMATE POWERRRrrRR!!"1!!(exclamation mark)!!11 Discuss. Edit: Heh, j/k. I just have in my head a mage character maining light and darkness magic and wielding it like a total badass, combining it to casting Ultima or Scathe or stuff. Nvm me. |
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Post by zimmyzims on Apr 17, 2014 10:18:48 GMT
I don't see why my quote and zimmyzims reaction would change that. Maybe I'm just naïve, but I'm also generally surprised about the reaction that our innocent, and please allow me to say funny, posts caused. All debate I imagined even possibly following from what we said concerned Sartre's existentialism and general definitions of heaven and hell. And even that unlikely. This discussion I'd rather see go the way you precised here: if it only provokes debate about the "real" world go elsewhere. |
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 17, 2014 17:23:51 GMT
In fact, Sartre was wrong. Hells is self. I mean myself, yourself and especially Sartreself. Heaven doesn't exist. "heaven doesn't exist"? Nor does Japan, as weaboo present it, if that's any consolation to you.  Dude or dudette, we are surrounded by the signs of the Biblical endtimes right now. More than a hundred prophecies have come true in the last 100 years. Israel was predicted to become a nation again in 1948, and it did. meeeebbbbe rethink some things. The end is neigh! Lysende, away! (probs gonna be baraged with atheist's insults, so goodbye forever.) Jump on a tangential offtopic, throw a few empty claims, tap a victim card preemptively... really? You can do better than that. Please stop insulting the audience with this lack of effort, if you want to troll us, do it properly! Coyote is one option, he did split the 2 sides, he also secretly gave a powerful knife to current group, he isn't always the nicest guy to his own people. Coyote didn't know about Jeanne He didn't? Then again, since Coyote doesn't need to aim at anything particular, and may simply launch a curveball and see what chaos unfolds, his involvement does not need to be very direct. |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Apr 17, 2014 19:47:34 GMT
So there's been some discussion already about the raven-like symbol below the shaft and ... mystery bulb ... of the arrow. But what of the sun-like symbol off the end of the forked arrowhead? It seems familiar, but I haven't been able to place it exactly yet. Does it match anything we've seen before? |
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 17, 2014 20:51:38 GMT
Is it just me, then? I see a bird's head in the arrow's ether. Looks like a crow's head, or a raven, perhaps? Two creatures with strong mythical connections that we haven't seen much of before in GKC, unless you include the TicTocs. Yes, I was seeing hints of that too. It occurred to me that we haven't seen much of Brinnie at all, and as ravens feature You mean, under cover of being punished for something again Brinnie was sent by the Old Man to investigate disapearance of his bird? |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Apr 17, 2014 23:28:23 GMT
Yes, I was seeing hints of that too. It occurred to me that we haven't seen much of Brinnie at all, and as ravens feature You mean, under cover of being punished for something again Brinnie was sent by the Old Man to investigate disapearance of his bird? Haha, great idea! On a semi-related note, do we know what the approximate timeline is between Jeanne and Annie? I just realized I didn't actually know how long she's been trapped down there. A few hundred years? A thousand? If robot numbers are any indication, it's been 12 "generations" of the Seraph model, however long those lifecycles last... |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 18, 2014 4:11:37 GMT
You mean, under cover of being punished for something again Brinnie was sent by the Old Man to investigate disapearance of his bird? Haha, great idea! On a semi-related note, do we know what the approximate timeline is between Jeanne and Annie? I just realized I didn't actually know how long she's been trapped down there. A few hundred years? A thousand? If robot numbers are any indication, it's been 12 "generations" of the Seraph model, however long those lifecycles last... If the comic is set in "present day" and the Court was founded around 1715 (guessing by fashion and by that eclipse-thing on that one page) that would mean the Court is about 299 years old. Subtract another 20 years for the schism to happen, maybe, and you get about 279 years. |
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Post by melkior on Apr 18, 2014 4:41:05 GMT
In fact, Sartre was wrong. Hells is self. I mean myself, yourself and especially Sartreself. Heaven doesn't exist. "heaven doesn't exist"? Dude or dudette, we are surrounded by the signs of the Biblical endtimes right now. More than a hundred prophecies have come true in the last 100 years. Israel was predicted to become a nation again in 1948, and it did. meeeebbbbe rethink some things. The end is neigh! Lysende, away! (probs gonna be baraged with atheist's insults, so goodbye forever.) I half-agree. We're certainly surrounded by signs of the end times, but you seem to be implying that the end is imminent which, as others here have rightly pointed out, Christians have been predicting for generations. The reason we "know not the day nor the hour" is because we have no idea of exactly how bad things must become before the end. For all we know, the world has to fester for another ten generations before things become so bad that the end is truly nigh. Or it could come some time in the next 24 hours. We have no way of knowing. I'm reminded of the parable of the foolish servant, who thought that just because his master was away for longer than he expected, this meant he could do as he liked and hold a wild party and drink his master's good wine and abuse the other servants etc. Anyway, back on the subject at hand, I really want to see how Tom handles Jeanne's situation. But I expect we won't get to see that for quite a few chapters yet. |
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Post by warrl on Apr 18, 2014 5:31:50 GMT
The reason we "know not the day nor the hour" is because we have no idea of exactly how bad things must become before the end. For all we know, the world has to fester for another ten generations before things become so bad that the end is truly nigh. Or it could come some time in the next 24 hours. We have no way of knowing. I have occasionally toyed with the idea of forming an apocalyptic cult and sharing with my followers (actually the thought of even having followers makes my skin crawl) the secret of what day the end will be. In strictest secrecy. They aren't to reveal it even to each other. And telling each of them a different day. That way, with maybe 15,000 followers I could guarantee that it's past my lifetime (barring significant progress in life-extension) - because no man will know the day, and for every day in that time period someone will know it. |
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Post by fwip on Apr 18, 2014 7:16:02 GMT
The reason we "know not the day nor the hour" is because we have no idea of exactly how bad things must become before the end. For all we know, the world has to fester for another ten generations before things become so bad that the end is truly nigh. Or it could come some time in the next 24 hours. We have no way of knowing. I have occasionally toyed with the idea of forming an apocalyptic cult and sharing with my followers (actually the thought of even having followers makes my skin crawl) the secret of what day the end will be. In strictest secrecy. They aren't to reveal it even to each other. And telling each of them a different day. That way, with maybe 15,000 followers I could guarantee that it's past my lifetime (barring significant progress in life-extension) - because no man will know the day, and for every day in that time period someone will know it. With 7 billion people, there's probably already someone for every day. The only way to get around this is to kill everyone, then end the world, and that kind of defeats the purpose. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Apr 18, 2014 8:45:14 GMT
"heaven doesn't exist"? Dude or dudette, we are surrounded by the signs of the Biblical endtimes right now. More than a hundred prophecies have come true in the last 100 years. Israel was predicted to become a nation again in 1948, and it did. meeeebbbbe rethink some things. The end is neigh! Lysende, away! (probs gonna be baraged with atheist's insults, so goodbye forever.) I half-agree. We're certainly surrounded by signs of the end times, but you seem to be implying that the end is imminent which, as others here have rightly pointed out, Christians have been predicting for generations. The reason we "know not the day nor the hour" is because we have no idea of exactly how bad things must become before the end. Still no word on what these "signs" are. How fortunate we are that out of all the countless light years of space, one miniscule collection of biomass on one speck of stellar dust should have a supernatural being who, though creating (and eventually destroying) all this vastness, devotes the whole of his attention to parlaying with this one species through cryptic metaphor and musty tomes of whose attribution is so factually dubious that there are whole fields of ecclesiastical study devoted to defending it. This, of course, being all a part of some kind of mysterious test to determine who can resist the imperfections said supernatural being is responsible for, having created them in the first place. That explanation might strike some as both suspiciously convenient and also in dire need of a plot re-write, but personally I can't help but admire it. What is a thought exercise without a little mental gymnastics? |
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Post by warrl on Apr 18, 2014 13:40:07 GMT
Still no word on what these "signs" are. Presumably  |
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Post by GK Sierra on Apr 18, 2014 17:59:38 GMT
What, no yield?
HOW ARE PEDESTRIANS SUPPOSED TO BE RAPTURED WITHOUT YIELD SIGNS?
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Post by lysende on Apr 19, 2014 0:09:30 GMT
I half-agree. We're certainly surrounded by signs of the end times, but you seem to be implying that the end is imminent which, as others here have rightly pointed out, Christians have been predicting for generations. The reason we "know not the day nor the hour" is because we have no idea of exactly how bad things must become before the end. Still no word on what these "signs" are. How fortunate we are that out of all the countless light years of space, one miniscule collection of biomass on one speck of stellar dust should have a supernatural being who, though creating (and eventually destroying) all this vastness, devotes the whole of his attention to parlaying with this one species through cryptic metaphor and musty tomes of whose attribution is so factually dubious that there are whole fields of ecclesiastical study devoted to defending it. This, of course, being all a part of some kind of mysterious test to determine who can resist the imperfections said supernatural being is responsible for, having created them in the first place. That explanation might strike some as both suspiciously convenient and also in dire need of a plot re-write, but personally I can't help but admire it. What is a thought exercise without a little mental gymnastics? yeah sorry I havent been on the forums for the last fews days, Ive been busy working on a booklet spread for class. anyway, i guess I could link to a page that has compiled some. heres two links. www.wnd.com/2012/06/author-bible-predicted-date-of-israels-return/ raptureforums.com/BibleProphecy/101endtimes.cfm The first just shows that the Bible predicted the exact month and year of the rebirth of modern day Israel, which happened in 1948. feel free to study these on those, but im not going to copypasta them all here. Auf Wiedersehen! |
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Post by lysende on Apr 19, 2014 0:10:11 GMT
Still no word on what these "signs" are. Presumably Its spelled "stahp" |
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Post by lysende on Apr 19, 2014 0:12:10 GMT
The reason we "know not the day nor the hour" is because we have no idea of exactly how bad things must become before the end. For all we know, the world has to fester for another ten generations before things become so bad that the end is truly nigh. Or it could come some time in the next 24 hours. We have no way of knowing. I have occasionally toyed with the idea of forming an apocalyptic cult and sharing with my followers (actually the thought of even having followers makes my skin crawl) the secret of what day the end will be. In strictest secrecy. They aren't to reveal it even to each other. And telling each of them a different day. That way, with maybe 15,000 followers I could guarantee that it's past my lifetime (barring significant progress in life-extension) - because no man will know the day, and for every day in that time period someone will know it. "That way, with maybe 15,000 followers I could guarantee that it's past my lifetime" nah, that wouldnt work. The Bible says no man knows, so guessing and happening to be correct wouldnt negate it, it would just be a coincidence for him to guess right. |
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Post by lysende on Apr 19, 2014 0:16:24 GMT
"heaven doesn't exist"? Dude or dudette, we are surrounded by the signs of the Biblical endtimes right now. More than a hundred prophecies have come true in the last 100 years. Israel was predicted to become a nation again in 1948, and it did. meeeebbbbe rethink some things. The end is neigh! Lysende, away! (probs gonna be baraged with atheist's insults, so goodbye forever.) I half-agree. We're certainly surrounded by signs of the end times, but you seem to be implying that the end is imminent which, as others here have rightly pointed out, Christians have been predicting for generations. The reason we "know not the day nor the hour" is because we have no idea of exactly how bad things must become before the end. For all we know, the world has to fester for another ten generations before things become so bad that the end is truly nigh. Or it could come some time in the next 24 hours. We have no way of knowing. I'm reminded of the parable of the foolish servant, who thought that just because his master was away for longer than he expected, this meant he could do as he liked and hold a wild party and drink his master's good wine and abuse the other servants etc. Anyway, back on the subject at hand, I really want to see how Tom handles Jeanne's situation. But I expect we won't get to see that for quite a few chapters yet. "we have no idea of exactly how bad things must become before the end." Thats not entirely true, the Bible does say a few things of how bad it will be. I don't recall the exact verse, but it does say the world will be as it was in the days of Noah, with violence filling the earth, and increased earthquake and storm activity. Jacob, away! |
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Post by lysende on Apr 19, 2014 0:17:06 GMT
"heaven doesn't exist"? Dude or dudette, we are surrounded by the signs of the Biblical endtimes right now. More than a hundred prophecies have come true in the last 100 years. Israel was predicted to become a nation again in 1948, and it did. meeeebbbbe rethink some things. The end is neigh! Lysende, away! (probs gonna be baraged with atheist's insults, so goodbye forever.) I half-agree. We're certainly surrounded by signs of the end times, but you seem to be implying that the end is imminent which, as others here have rightly pointed out, Christians have been predicting for generations. The reason we "know not the day nor the hour" is because we have no idea of exactly how bad things must become before the end. For all we know, the world has to fester for another ten generations before things become so bad that the end is truly nigh. Or it could come some time in the next 24 hours. We have no way of knowing. I'm reminded of the parable of the foolish servant, who thought that just because his master was away for longer than he expected, this meant he could do as he liked and hold a wild party and drink his master's good wine and abuse the other servants etc. Anyway, back on the subject at hand, I really want to see how Tom handles Jeanne's situation. But I expect we won't get to see that for quite a few chapters yet. dang I typed my real name. |
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Post by lysende on Apr 19, 2014 0:21:01 GMT
The very first Christians were convinced that they would get the big show during their own lifetime. More recently, the Jehovah's Witnesses already embarrassed themselves a few times over by the updated version of the same basic idea; at least they finally learned not to declare specific dates. Funny how many supposedly well-read Christians have forgotten the "thou shall not know the hour of my coming" line. "heaven doesn't exist"? Dude or dudette, we are surrounded by the signs of the Biblical endtimes right now. More than a hundred prophecies have come true in the last 100 years. Israel was predicted to become a nation again in 1948, and it did. meeeebbbbe rethink some things. The end is neigh! Lysende, away! (probs gonna be baraged with atheist's insults, so goodbye forever.) Nobody is going to insult or flame anybody here, but I will politely insist that you support the claim you have made if you expect it to be taken seriously- the same standard we apply to every other aspect of life. Which prophesies? Who were their authors? What did they say, exactly? Was it specific or vague and deliberately left open to wide interpretation? How many times have they been re-translated? Until sources are provided, I think it's safe to say that there is nothing to rethink. Another aspect you have to keep in mind is this: prophecies, especially ones that are religiously and politically motivated (and the two are often one and the same), have a habit of being self-fulfilling. It was claimed that a prophecy said Jerusalem and the Levant belonged to Israel, so the Zionist movement enlisted the help of the great powers to install a Jewish state in the so-called "holy land" at the expense of it's previous occupants. They claimed the prophecy said it would happen, in the hope that it would add legitimacy to their illegal armed invasion and occupation. That is not at all the same as successful prediction. "Christians have forgotten the "thou shall not know the hour of my coming" line." No, you misunderstand. that is not all the Bible has to say on people knowing about it. While it does say no man, angel or demon knows the day or hour, in another part it says God will come like a thief in the night- and continues to say that we (christians) shall not be in darkness, for we are sons of light and sons of daay (sorry, don't remember where the verse is) so while we don't know any specific time, we do know it is drawing ever closer. |
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Post by lysende on Apr 19, 2014 0:23:01 GMT
Nor does Japan, as weaboo present it, if that's any consolation to you. Dude or dudette, we are surrounded by the signs of the Biblical endtimes right now. More than a hundred prophecies have come true in the last 100 years. Israel was predicted to become a nation again in 1948, and it did. meeeebbbbe rethink some things. The end is neigh! Lysende, away! (probs gonna be baraged with atheist's insults, so goodbye forever.) Jump on a tangential offtopic, throw a few empty claims, tap a victim card preemptively... really? You can do better than that. Please stop insulting the audience with this lack of effort, if you want to troll us, do it properly! Coyote didn't know about Jeanne He didn't? Then again, since Coyote doesn't need to aim at anything particular, and may simply launch a curveball and see what chaos unfolds, his involvement does not need to be very direct. "Jump on a tangential offtopic, throw a few empty claims, tap a victim card preemptively... really? You can do better than that. Please stop insulting the audience with this lack of effort, if you want to troll us, do it properly! " I wasn't trolling. also, yall done did proved my point of people insulting me. = ( |
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Post by lysende on Apr 19, 2014 0:26:07 GMT
Huzzah! how many internets have I received?
I won't be back for four days or so, so dont go posting about how i didnt reply or nothin. Im lookin at you, bugbear.
Also, anyone here read Skin Deep?
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