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Post by The Anarch on Mar 24, 2014 7:00:59 GMT
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Post by arf on Mar 24, 2014 7:04:20 GMT
The rubber bat, revealed in all its glory!
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Post by KMar on Mar 24, 2014 7:04:21 GMT
Oh look, it's the Bureaucracy Vampire! Also, the ROTD being classy as always.
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Post by sapientcoffee on Mar 24, 2014 7:04:52 GMT
So, we just see ROTD as if Kat is seeing it? Whose eyes are we seeing through?
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Post by GK Sierra on Mar 24, 2014 7:05:54 GMT
I suspected as much.
No way you have a research facility that big, that advanced and that independent without some kind of deal with the Ministry of Defense.
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Post by KMar on Mar 24, 2014 7:13:03 GMT
I suspected as much. No way you have a research facility that big, that advanced and that independent without some kind of deal with the Ministry of Defense. Also, 'assisting in war effort'. Now I'm imagining a secret etheric war between the Court and the Thule Society. E: I thought the calling the part of government responsible for the matters of war 'ministries of defence' is a fairly recent thing? Wouldn't the War Office or something be more period accurate? |
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Post by Eversist on Mar 24, 2014 7:17:30 GMT
So, we just see ROTD as if Kat is seeing it? Whose eyes are we seeing through? Maybe mundies like us and Kat (and Mort) see the ROTD like this. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Mar 24, 2014 7:21:10 GMT
I suspected as much. No way you have a research facility that big, that advanced and that independent without some kind of deal with the Ministry of Defense. Also, 'assisting in war effort'. Now I'm imagining a secret etheric war between the Court and the Thule Society. I am envisioning the Spacemonauts chasing Hitler to his secret Antarctica base. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 24, 2014 7:23:25 GMT
I suppose Jones' "story" being older and superior is how she's making her claim on the kid. I'm a bit surprised that trumps a 'pomp but then Jones is a Jones- possibly worshiped as a goddess in prehistory, likely associated with if not worshiped as a goddess in ancient Egypt and Rome et al et cetera at nauseum. Also: This shows the impact of that tricky subjective ether on the whole material universe thing otherwise "unfair/unjust" shouldn't mean any more in that universe than it does here. If anyone had any remaining doubt that the Gunnerverse was playing by another set of rules than ours this page should eliminate it.
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Post by cu on Mar 24, 2014 7:54:25 GMT
...everyone knows Hitler...
Only to be squished by Annie's finger. Coyote giggled for days!
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Post by KMar on Mar 24, 2014 7:57:50 GMT
...everyone knows Hitler...
Only to be squished by Annie's finger. Coyote giggled for days!
We need crossover fanfics of this. IMMEDIATELY.
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Post by Lightice on Mar 24, 2014 8:11:35 GMT
Well, this is an answer to a question that I've long been wondering, that does the Court actively involve itself with outside affairs. Now I wonder if the war effort was a unique incident, or if they still have commercial of political interests in the outside world. Also, were they hiring a live in ghost from the RotD, or is Mort assigned on the same basis as haunted houses and such? So many questions!
Also, how often does Jones do this? She must have indirectly influenced hundreds if not thousands of deaths over the millennia...
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Post by eightyfour on Mar 24, 2014 8:23:36 GMT
Also, how often does Jones do this? She must have indirectly influenced hundreds if not thousands of deaths over the millennia... That's kinda what I thought. In all her time she must have at least seen, if not influenced, plenty of unfair and unjust deaths, so one might speculate that she should be used to that kind of thing by now. Even if she was involved in this one, although Mort's death hardly can be said to be her fault, what's the point of making a big business out of this single one? In any case, taking responsibility like this isn't something that goes with her claim of being without emotion. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Mar 24, 2014 8:51:34 GMT
E: I thought the calling the part of government responsible for the matters of war 'ministries of defence' is a fairly recent thing? Wouldn't the War Office or something be more period accurate? That is true- it would have been called the war office/war department back then. Funny how that little rhetorical switch happened. |
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Post by Ophel on Mar 24, 2014 8:59:28 GMT
Also, how often does Jones do this? She must have indirectly influenced hundreds if not thousands of deaths over the millennia... That's kinda what I thought. In all her time she must have at least seen, if not influenced, plenty of unfair and unjust deaths, so one might speculate that she should be used to that kind of thing by now. Even if she was involved in this one, although Mort's death hardly can be said to be her fault, what's the point of making a big business out of this single one? In any case, taking responsibility like this isn't something that goes with her claim of being without emotion. Maybe she's just that good? She's been living longer than humanity. She also probably had lived along side them for a very long time. She might have had some slip-ups before, but I imagine it wouldn't be that many, and she can learn from them and be much more careful. |
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Post by philman on Mar 24, 2014 9:04:35 GMT
Is Jones' actions a good thing here? Mort doesn't seem to get a choice in whether he goes to the court or goes with the psychopomp.
Also, if Annie helps Mort into the afterlife, will that mean Jones loses her ties to the court and leaves?
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Post by Angry Individual on Mar 24, 2014 9:04:44 GMT
Interesting.
I like how Jones has seniority in these kind of decisions. I bet she uses her age to muscle her way into a lot of situations and sway them to her ideals.
Or she just literally muscles her way into them, whatever works really.
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Post by zimmyzims on Mar 24, 2014 9:14:54 GMT
So, we just see ROTD as if Kat is seeing it? Whose eyes are we seeing through? Mort's. In Kat's eyes that vampire was a Halloween kitsch rubber bat. |
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Post by sidhekin on Mar 24, 2014 9:19:23 GMT
What identifies the vampire as the verification bat?
... and where did Kat touch him?
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Post by Ophel on Mar 24, 2014 9:23:00 GMT
Is Jones' actions a good thing here? Mort doesn't seem to get a choice in whether he goes to the court or goes with the psychopomp. Yeah, for this one, one might think that consent should be asked for. So, we just see ROTD as if Kat is seeing it? Whose eyes are we seeing through? Mort's. In Kat's eyes that vampire was a Halloween kitsch rubber bat. Maybe this is a different... entity from the credentials bat. This one looks to be more like part of the administration or executive committee of ROTD, or something. Anyway, now we get to see what process one has to go through before becoming a ghost, just as the skeleton sticker front desk entity offered to Kat (after having to dead, first, of course). |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 24, 2014 9:30:30 GMT
E: I thought the calling the part of government responsible for the matters of war 'ministries of defence' is a fairly recent thing? Wouldn't the War Office or something be more period accurate? That is true- it would have been called the war office/war department back then. Funny how that little rhetorical switch happened. I think it was around the same time that propaganda departments began participating in command decisions. And changed their names to information agencies. That's kinda what I thought. In all her time she must have at least seen, if not influenced, plenty of unfair and unjust deaths, so one might speculate that she should be used to that kind of thing by now. Even if she was involved in this one, although Mort's death hardly can be said to be her fault, what's the point of making a big business out of this single one? In any case, taking responsibility like this isn't something that goes with her claim of being without emotion. Maybe she's just that good? She's been living longer than humanity. She also probably had lived along side them for a very long time. She might have had some slip-ups before, but I imagine it wouldn't be that many, and she can learn from them and be much more careful. I have two theories of how Jones came to be... 1)If Jones is a "pearl" created by a woman-shaped rock having layer after layer of belief wrapped around it then she would be an idealized form of woman. Among the attributes in that bundle should include a protective attitude toward children. Jones, however unintentionally, led a child into deadly danger. 2)If Jones was created by a one-time only flow of ether into matter by the same process that would eventually create humans (whatever that might be) she might have had human emotions in the beginning but they should have become very rarefied over the millions of years. Of course the real test would be to remove all the humans and return Jones to a bleak desert for a few thousand years with no books or computers and anything and see if she has a mental breakdown. |
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Post by Trism on Mar 24, 2014 9:45:46 GMT
Is...is Mort a student?
Does gunnerkrigg take ghosts?
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Post by zombie on Mar 24, 2014 12:12:12 GMT
E: I thought the calling the part of government responsible for the matters of war 'ministries of defence' is a fairly recent thing? Wouldn't the War Office or something be more period accurate? That is true- it would have been called the war office/war department back then. Funny how that little rhetorical switch happened. While the present MoD was formed in the '60, the MoD goes back to 1940, when it's task was basically coordinating between The War Office, Air Ministry and Admiralty. Churchill was Minister of Defence as well as Prime Minister. It also handled special projects like MD1, so it stands to reason the the MoD would have been the contact point, although IMHO the SOE would would have been equally as likely, but perhaps they were reporting directly to Churchill. The explosion of bureaucracy and ambiguously named government departments during WWII was of course one of the inspirations for George Orwell to write 1984 |
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 24, 2014 13:15:19 GMT
If everyone deferred to seniority, Jones would rule the world.
And also, it's interesting that Jones me the ROTD appear (by their phrasing) to support the Allies.
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Post by ctso74 on Mar 24, 2014 13:31:09 GMT
Also, were they hiring a live in ghost from the RotD, or is Mort assigned on the same basis as haunted houses and such? I envisioning a montage of Mort training with a headless Calvary man, a hemorrhaging Mustard gas victim, and a girl who when asked cheerfully answers, "Influenza!" If you have a problem... if no one else can help... and if you can find them... maybe you can hire... The Boo Team! |
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 24, 2014 13:37:24 GMT
] If you have a problem... if no one else can help... and if you can find them... maybe you can hire... The Boo Team!...Who ya' gonna call? |
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Post by Ender on Mar 24, 2014 13:50:56 GMT
And also, it's interesting that Jones me the ROTD appear (by their phrasing) to support the Allies. Huh? |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Mar 24, 2014 14:53:40 GMT
I'm curious about that clipboard. So far, everything colored that Mort remembers is something that he's deemed significant in some way to the narrative of his death and its circumstances. It could be that he just remembered it because it's how he came to arrive at Gunnerkrigg Court. But why is it purple? I would have expected pressboard, which would have been brown; even the aluminum ones we have today would have been unrealistic for the times. Unless it's made out of some etheric medium?
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 24, 2014 14:58:47 GMT
Also, 'assisting in war effort'. Now I'm imagining a secret etheric war between the Court and the Thule Society. I am envisioning the Spacemonauts chasing Hitler to his secret Antarctica base. It should be "secret Antarctica base in Antarctica". I suppose Jones' "story" being older and superior is how she's making her claim on the kid. I'm a bit surprised that trumps a 'pomp Or... it's simply the opening for Notesferatu to taunt Ankou one more time.  What identifies the vampire as the verification bat? ... and where did Kat touch him? "Now show on the rubber bat doll..." "I AM a rubber bat doll!" "Oh." Gunnerkrigg students aren't the only ones who need to have some sense scared into them, after all. |
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Post by Nnelg on Mar 24, 2014 14:59:34 GMT
So, we just see ROTD as if Kat is seeing it? Whose eyes are we seeing through? +1 to theory that Kat's view is the one that cuts out all the bull**** and shows the bare, unflattering truth of the ROTD. [Also, 'assisting in war effort'. Now I'm imagining a secret etheric war between the Court and the Thule Society. This has always been in my mind. Also: This shows the impact of that tricky subjective ether on the whole material universe thing otherwise "unfair/unjust" shouldn't mean any more in that universe than it does here. So far, it has impacted only a bureaucrat's decision regarding a matter of customs. I don't understand what you're talking about here. |
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