[1121] Debatable

[Søren]

I see, so that's how they avoid paying her: they hired her as a "consultant".

It looks like her X-Rays are completely solid too, her structure is homogenous all the way though. No organs.

[Fhqwhgads]

Either that or she's just opaque to radiation. Can't see through her.

[Rex]

Either of those possibilities makes Jones even more bizarre. Wow, I know this is an understatement but Jones is weird as hell.

[jasmijn]

I wonder if they have tried MRI and things like that, see if she has a brain. Probably not, but then, what is she doing the thinking thing with?

[mochakimono]

So it's entirely possible she genuinely doesn't know what Seed Bismuth is, nor has heard of Jeanne before.

[Rymdljus]

I spot another 113, on the x-rays!

[foxurus]

If I was Annie I would ask to touch her eyeball.

[GK Sierra]

Nov 23, 2012 8:00:53 GMT Søren said:

I see, so that's how they avoid paying her: they hired her as a "consultant".

Welcome to my world.

That's not an employee, he's a... thirty year temp worker. Who we pay. Occasionally. (read: when we feel he's about to quit for-realsies this time)

[ctso74]

Nov 23, 2012 8:36:23 GMT foxurus said:

If I was Annie I would ask to touch her eyeball.

Ha, ha. I hadn't even thought of that.

Nov 23, 2012 8:15:38 GMT jasmijn said:

I wonder if they have tried MRI and things like that, see if she has a brain.

She'd require water molecules in her body for an MRI to see anything. I don't think she properly hydrates with 8 glasses of water per day. Tisk tisk, Jones.

[cu]

Next monday:

Jones: "Nah, I was kidding, I can't believe you humans are so gullible. You were right, I am a robot, what else could I be?" (trollface)

[lavkian]

Nov 23, 2012 8:15:38 GMT jasmijn said:

I wonder if they have tried MRI and things like that, see if she has a brain. Probably not, but then, what is she doing the thinking thing with?

iirc an MRI requires an injection of a special fluid that creates the image. if she can catch a sword and isn't harmed by a spear, what good would a needle do?

for this reason i believe the xrays are blank because they can't penetrate her skin.

[TBeholder]

Nov 23, 2012 8:05:37 GMT Fhqwhgads said:

Either that or she's just opaque to radiation. Can't see through her.

As in: no one and nothing can see through her.

Nov 23, 2012 8:15:38 GMT jasmijn said:

I wonder if they have tried MRI and things like that

How exactly this would help? ;D Assuming it's the same picture in UHF - and at this point, why not.

Nov 23, 2012 9:46:09 GMT lavkian said:

iirc an MRI requires an injection of a special fluid that creates the image.

<sigh>

[eightyfour]

Interesting.

Jones is content with being a curiosity.
Annie feels human enough.
Coyote has fun with being nonexistant.
Just Ysengrin seems to want more than he's got.

Where I'm going with this? Nowhere, actually. Just random observations. But Annie seems to be echoing Ysengrin a bit there, doesn't she?

[shadmere]

She talks, so she can vibrate. Force passes through her, at least.

Ultrasound. Put a probe down her throat.

Does she even have a digestive system, or does her throat stop a few inches past the mouth?

[pasko]

well, she has a mouth, does not she?
Why not just put a endoscope in her and see what's inside.

Edit: I see I've been ninjaed by one post.

[Rymdljus]

Nov 23, 2012 9:46:09 GMT lavkian said:

iirc an MRI requires an injection of a special fluid that creates the image. if she can catch a sword and isn't harmed by a spear, what good would a needle do?

It could potentially work better than a sword or a spear, since it's a lot less blunt. It concentrates its pressure on a smaller area. Making a needle go through the skin should be easier than making a spear do the same for regular humans too, I think. Or am I mistaken?

Nov 23, 2012 10:33:51 GMT shadmere said:

Does she even have a digestive system, or does her throat stop a few inches past the mouth?

I was thinking the same! What would happen if she tried to eat or drink anything?

[mochakimono]

Nov 23, 2012 9:46:09 GMT lavkian said:

iirc an MRI requires an injection of a special fluid that creates the image. if she can catch a sword and isn't harmed by a spear, what good would a needle do?

You can drink the fluid instead; it depends on which organs you're trying to get an image of. (Trivia: it's really, really awful.)

But she might not have any (organs, that is), or even be capable of imbibing.

Though I'm sure anything we can think of here, the scientists at Gunnerkrigg have already tried by now...

[Lightice]

Nov 23, 2012 10:33:51 GMT shadmere said:

She talks, so she can vibrate. Force passes through her, at least.

Ultrasound. Put a probe down her throat.

The problem is probably getting a probe deep enough. Remember that no force on the planet save for her own strength can force Jones's muscles to move. Getting a wired probe down her gullet is probably an impossible task and having her swallow a wireless one would just result in the signal getting blocked.

I could potentially work better than a sword or a spear, since it's a lot less blunt. It concentrates its pressure on a smaller area. Making a needle go through the skin should be easier than making a spear do the same for regular humans too, I think. Or am I mistaken?

Sure, but Jones isn't a human. Nothing in the world can penetrate her skin, no matter how well-concentrated the force is. She's completely impervious to any external damage imaginable. So as far as Jones is concerned, there's no difference between a needle and a spear.

You can drink the fluid instead; it depends on which organs you're trying to get an image of. (Trivia: it's really, really awful.)

But we just run in the same problem as with normal X-rays: no signal can get through her, so it doesn't matter what's within her internal organs. It gets blocked by the skin, either way.

[snoodette]

Just a slight aside, you don't need to drink or inject anything for a MRI, unless you are doing a contrast study of the brain for example. To just do an image of maybe a joint you just need to stay still! Trans-ocular ultrasound could be a possibility...

[Per]

By using the outdated word "consultory" instead of "consultatory" or "consultative", Jones is making herself look old.

[TBeholder]

And yes, that's why we love her, too: for this humbleness.

Nov 23, 2012 10:53:36 GMT Rymdljus said:

Making a needle go through the skin should be easier than making a spear do the same for regular humans too, I think. Or am I mistaken?

Irrelevant if it still fails to make a measurable impression on the harder-than-diamond surface.

[noone3]

Nov 23, 2012 10:33:51 GMT shadmere said:

She talks, so she can vibrate. Force passes through her, at least.

Ultrasound. Put a probe down her throat.

Does she even have a digestive system, or does her throat stop a few inches past the mouth?

The sound could be a hypnotic suggestion - this can be determined by recording her voice in some mechanical way.

But since she looks like a human being outside, I can see no reason for her insides to be otherwise. The difference would be impenetrability of her tissues. In this way she could produce sound like everyone else.

A theory:
Since she seems to be utterly impenetrable, she might be a Jones-shaped hole in our reality, making her a whole separate universe. Mobile and all.

In this case even cutting her hair in some way (see: the Chekhov's ethereal tooth-knife) might "pop the bubble" and disintegrate Jones, and/or our university as well.

Dr. Strangelove approves.

[Deleted]

Whoah. Okay, we know she has a mouthand at least part of a throat...but does it go anywhere, or end beyond what one can see? Does she have saliva? Do her nostrils connect to anything?

This chapter just gets better and better.

[myzelf]

Further evidence that her body is not made of atomic matter.

[quoodle]

What areas were normally not open to her investigation? (It's a rhetorical question- I don't think any of us know at this point)

She also says the court provides her a place to return. She means a home (or a home-base). What does she do outside the court?

[atteSmythe]

Nov 23, 2012 16:44:19 GMT quoodle said:

What areas were normally not open to her investigation? (It's a rhetorical question- I don't think any of us know at this point)

My guess is the ether. She can't manipulate it herself, and she's a figure of authority in the Powerstation experiments.

[sirian]

I think she's made of nucleonic matter (matter made only of nucleons like neutrons and protons).
It would make her suitably impervious, heavy, and would explain the x-ray picture.
She would have to be mostly hollow though, or her density would be too high and she would sink through the earth straight down to the core.

[nero]

So Jones doesn't have ambition. She lets herself be carried by the wind (well figuratively).

[darlos9d]

Nov 23, 2012 17:47:09 GMT nero said:

So Jones doesn't have ambition. She lets herself be carried by the wind (well figuratively).

Well, she says she doesn't. That's really the only thing we can be certain of.

Not saying this proves that she does.

Also "ambition" is a loose term. Really, its synonymous with "desire."

[0o0f]

Annie, you should have seen that coming.