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Post by Salty on Oct 10, 2012 8:57:36 GMT
Dialog interpretation and speculation, abridged version... Ed Jones: Fair Emma, I loves you, will you marry me? Emma: Sorry. I just like you as a friend. Ed Jones: (dying) How 'bout now? Will you do me the honor of taking my name? Emma: All right, since I won't actually have to live with you or do anything. I'll do it literally and it'll be like a memorial to you. And I could use a new alias anyway, this one's wearing thin. Ed Jones: Urk, death. Hey, it's still a better death scene than the Wicker Man remake. Did somebody mention... Bees?
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Post by legion on Oct 10, 2012 9:06:31 GMT
The kind of factory dress they're wearing seems to have been more common during WWI than WWII, but that's not a definitive proof.
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Post by hochopepa on Oct 10, 2012 9:09:46 GMT
Having just a quick look through the list of Filling Factories in the article supplied by Tom I can only find information about major explosions occurring during the First World War. White Lund in 1917, where ten people were killed (mainly Firemen) and Chilwell in 1918 were 134 people were killed and 250 injured. As the White Lund explosion happened at night, I reckon it is the less likely of the two (although it was rumoured that it was hit by a bomb from a Zepplin). Also this image from the Chilwell factory looks like it might be a match for the background in the comic.
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Post by johnwwells on Oct 10, 2012 9:11:48 GMT
What's that triangular badge she's wearing? Is it for this wartime position, or is it a Valknut (supporting the Odin's eye idea?)
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Post by hochopepa on Oct 10, 2012 9:21:39 GMT
What's that triangular badge she's wearing? Is it for this wartime position, or is it a Valknut (supporting the Odin's eye idea?) I think the badge that the are wearing is the On War Services Badge, which was worn by women carrying out jobs important to the war effort during the First World War
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Post by GK Sierra on Oct 10, 2012 9:54:46 GMT
What's that triangular badge she's wearing? Is it for this wartime position, or is it a Valknut (supporting the Odin's eye idea?) I think the badge that the are wearing is the On War Services Badge, which was worn by women carrying out jobs important to the war effort during the First World War I believe you are right, but it's upside-down. Perhaps it got jolted in the blast. Legion is correct as well, the mob cap is generally remembered as a WW1 thing, although I can't imagine it could have changed much in three decades.
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Post by smjjames on Oct 10, 2012 9:54:53 GMT
Since the last one was in the 70s or 60s, it's gotta be WWII, but it could be WWI since it was several decades rather than a few decades from the previous strip.
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Post by keef on Oct 10, 2012 10:07:57 GMT
What's that triangular badge she's wearing? Is it for this wartime position, or is it a Valknut (supporting the Odin's eye idea?) I think the badge that the are wearing is the On War Services Badge, which was worn by women carrying out jobs important to the war effort during the First World War Thanks, I've been googling around, couldn't find it. Surprised its WW1
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Post by zimmyzims on Oct 10, 2012 10:17:43 GMT
...and that's why she isn't Mrs. Eglamore! ;D
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Post by dailenna on Oct 10, 2012 10:32:30 GMT
I wonder where she got the name Emma from, then. And what would happen if Eglamore asked the same thing? Say hello to having a first and last name!
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Post by zimmyzims on Oct 10, 2012 10:36:08 GMT
I wonder where she got the name Emma from, then. And what would happen if Eglamore asked the same thing? Say hello to having a first and last name! So she would be... James Jones? ;D
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Post by seaofalchemy on Oct 10, 2012 10:46:58 GMT
I wonder where she got the name Emma from, then. Ahhh, like if she took "Emma" from someone before, you mean? Good point!!! Following that logic, maybe Wandering Eye took "Emma" from someone, and then (as we all discovered) "Emma" took the name "Jones." Will "Jones" take a new name later on in the future?
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Post by dailenna on Oct 10, 2012 10:59:49 GMT
Yeah. Is her name Emma then because she took it from someone else, or does she choose a new name for herself when her old one seems to be getting too old-fashioned, or was she given it when she was created/born before she got turned all immortal-y ... Basically, can we actually get any information from that? Other than the fact that she had a female name at one point and got rid of it so that she could have just the one name: Jones. Also - she's more sentimental than expected, keeping a guy's name. Now she just needs to date some guy named Earl
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Post by Purgatorius on Oct 10, 2012 11:00:58 GMT
Will "Jones" take a new name later on in the future? With todays strip, I got the theory that she is planning on some day taking the name "Eglamore".
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Post by seaofalchemy on Oct 10, 2012 11:09:30 GMT
Will "Jones" take a new name later on in the future? With todays strip, I got the theory that she is planning on some day taking the name "Eglamore". But... Then that makes me think Eglamore might die! "Emma" took Jones's name when he died (assuming this Edward Jones died). Ah, now I'm jumping into conclusions. [Edit]You said "planning on some day..." I overlooked "some day" and started thinking that soon Eglamore will die. Silly me.
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 10, 2012 11:29:29 GMT
Working at a munitions factory during World War 2? And, crazy idea, the way Mr. Jones asks Emma to take his name, makes me think that in doing so she takes on some part of him - his memories or something - so he doesn't really die, completely, anyway. No doubt I'm wrong, but it's kind of a neat idea. Not necessarily exactly that, but there is some cheat-the-fate smell coming out of this. This would explain Coyote's remark. Ed Jones: (dying) How 'bout now? Will you do me the honor of taking my name? That, too. There's very few things not ambiguous about her. But e.g. the Court already existed... There were only 52 sorties and 500 casualties. (I don't think Wikipedia lets people embed, to keep down bandwidth costs) Yet I wouldn't say "no fighting in British airspace at all" and a Zeppelin bomb hitting a filling factory wouldn't be totally impossible, this being a comic and a work of fiction. It's... deniably plausible! The irony, of course, is that another work of fiction cited above is known to be co-authored by the very folk who kept off the maps the tallest building in London after it became a tourist attraction. Thus, in a way, you two just made it metafictional. ;D Not sure if it'd make any difference plotwise were it WW2 or WW1, though. Depends on the next page. Surely being an ageless, timeless whatever-she-is would cause someone to be like that anyway? Would be enough to cause someone to be like that. Still a better love story than Twilight? But does it have "...great scene transitions and some of the better special effects of the year..."?
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Post by artezzatrigger on Oct 10, 2012 11:30:07 GMT
I think we've all noticed Jones either thinks of things bluntly or literally. If Annie asked her "What are you?" What way would she be inclined to answer...?
Edit: Also, what do all of the flashback pages have in common so far, if anything?
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Post by snuffa on Oct 10, 2012 11:44:45 GMT
I think the badge that the are wearing is the On War Services Badge, which was worn by women carrying out jobs important to the war effort during the First World War random googling of some things from this page suddenly brought me to the poem "Dulce et Decorum est" I remember the theory that Mort died in WWI has already been circulated before, but I don't know if the poem ever was presented, so there: www.english.emory.edu/LostPoets/Dulce.html
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Post by jombra on Oct 10, 2012 12:23:20 GMT
LAUGHING ON LINE my favorite is that girl in third panel. Don't care don't care ugh she's clinging to me wait gotta look sad gotta say something what was she gonna say-"He's askin' for you, Em'"
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Post by aaroncampbell on Oct 10, 2012 12:30:37 GMT
I think the badge that the are wearing is the On War Services Badge, which was worn by women carrying out jobs important to the war effort during the First World War random googling of some things from this page suddenly brought me to the poem "Dulce et Decorum est" I remember the theory that Mort died in WWI has already been circulated before, but I don't know if the poem ever was presented, so there: www.english.emory.edu/LostPoets/Dulce.html New idea: Mort is Mr. Jones. Who knew Mr. Mortimer Jones had such a goofy personality, and decided to follow Emma even in the afterlife? (I'm not waiting for cookies on this theory) ;D
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Post by dailenna on Oct 10, 2012 12:40:55 GMT
Lawl, that's a fun idea. Except that Mort died as a boy (or at least he's referred to as a boy, not a man), and Mr. Jones' first name is Edward ^^;
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Post by darlos9d on Oct 10, 2012 13:28:27 GMT
Welp, this is a page.
Jones has had quite a life.
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Post by OrzBrain on Oct 10, 2012 14:09:22 GMT
I don't understand why everyone is talking about marriage -- it looks a lot more like Jones seeks out and collects people of interest, stays with them and cares for them throughout their lives, and then at the very end takes... something. Their name, yes, but is that the only thing she takes? Names are easy enough for a human to get after all, so unless she's got some kind of odd storybook inability to make up a new name I'm thinking she takes more than the name. Perhaps something more along the lines of the soul.
Perhaps she preserves souls and experiences which would otherwise dissolve back into the aether, trapping them within her. Perhaps she's been doing it for SO LONG that she's grown very, very heavy with all the souls.
Another option I'm wondering about is if Jones might be Gaia. And whether Coyote might also be Gaia. And all the people on the planet as well, all part of an etheric system which boils down to one single sentient entity. It's just that Jones is the part of that entity which does introspection, seeing what's going on inside itself.
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Post by bazuka on Oct 10, 2012 14:26:18 GMT
The hairnets!
They do nothing!
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Post by krael on Oct 10, 2012 14:55:56 GMT
SO! A fit of estimated years ago versus strip nr. several estimates based on Tom saying eglamor is somewhere in the 30s (I took 35), and further that jimmy and donnie met when they were still furniture size (12) and eggie started losing teeth around 6, like most kids, and then that the second world war was what we were looking at and that that was about 60/65 years ago in gunnertime. next up: about a 100 years ago, Jones meets einstein or something, and then 1800... what happened in 1800 anyway?
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Post by clawtooth on Oct 10, 2012 16:58:00 GMT
So Jones was a Canary then? I suppose with her high constitution and almost immunity to any form of harm (from what we've seen) it's the sort of job I can see her taking - using her own abilities to secure the safety of other women or something. For those unaware: "Canaries" was the name given to women who worked in cordite filling factories, because the chemicals became absorbed into their skin and turned it yellow. This had effects on their general health, and in severe cases they could no longer have children afterwards. Perhaps Jones' - or rather Emma's - status as somewhat supernatural protected her from this ... next up: about a 100 years ago, Jones meets einstein or something, and then 1800... what happened in 1800 anyway? in 1800? Well, near enough to 1800 MANY things happened: 1789: Storming of the Bastille and the beginnning of the french revolution. 1776: American congress signs the Declaration fo Independance. 1813: "Pride and Prejudice" published (okay that was a selfish one). I think if there's gonna be somehting in the 1800 time-period though, French Revolution is likely.
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Post by maximkat on Oct 10, 2012 16:59:56 GMT
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Post by GK Sierra on Oct 10, 2012 17:12:22 GMT
SO! A fit of estimated years ago versus strip nr. several estimates based on Tom saying eglamor is somewhere in the 30s (I took 35), and further that jimmy and donnie met when they were still furniture size (12) and eggie started losing teeth around 6, like most kids, and then that the second world war was what we were looking at and that that was about 60/65 years ago in gunnertime. next up: about a 100 years ago, Jones meets einstein or something, and then 1800... what happened in 1800 anyway? Wow, ten strips looks to be two centuries ago. I wonder if Tom will go that far...
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Post by krael on Oct 10, 2012 17:21:52 GMT
ah, yes, thanks for the lesson. It's one of those holes in my education. I know robbespiere offed the french nobility of course, but It's in my passive mind still such a boring century. Just the century that the slow countries needed to complete their industrial revolution , and where scientific discovery grinded to a halt, only untill is was broken open again in the 1900s.
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Post by Eversist on Oct 10, 2012 17:49:28 GMT
Just signed in to say "Thanks for the awesome graph, Krael!" c:
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