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Post by porcupineadvocate on Sept 11, 2012 9:57:36 GMT
It's 'segued', just in case. But I think you knew already.
I daresay that if you're a trickster god, fun opponents have to be wary and be fooled anyway. Bullying a trusting child would be no fun.
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Post by Eversist on Sept 11, 2012 15:48:16 GMT
More likely the Court does not care. The first appearance of Coyote seemed to spark little action on there part. They seem to care more about keeping up the bargain and doing what they do. What happens to a lone individual is little in comparison to the goal of attaining god-hood. Just for discussion's sake (not saying you're wrong): I personally doubt that the medium is used for any other means than keeping up appearances with the forest folk, and keeping the more dangerous ones at bay (AKA Rey incident). So I'm not sure how that relates to the "striving towards godhood" bit, other than keeping them out of the way? And what bargain do you speak of, specifically? Keeping the peace between the sides?
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 11, 2012 17:41:57 GMT
Aaand judging by Annie's reaction, Jimmy Jims did just the right thing last page. This was surprisingly civil. Bonus points to both of them! No, it's just that Annie is still too freaked out to become properly belligerent. I think Tom said that the next chapter is gonna be about Jones "About" Jones? Hmm...."Jones suspects his mind is gone", but we know Jones can't use a blinker stone. I wonder what Jones can see, if anything, etherically? I suspect it will turn out to be "you can't use a drinking fountain to hurl water back up the waterfall" sort of thing.
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Post by Mitth'raw'nuruodo on Sept 11, 2012 21:03:10 GMT
Just for discussion's sake (not saying you're wrong): I personally doubt that the medium is used for any other means than keeping up appearances with the forest folk, and keeping the more dangerous ones at bay (AKA Rey incident). So I'm not sure how that relates to the "striving towards godhood" bit, other than keeping them out of the way? And what bargain do you speak of, specifically? Keeping the peace between the sides? The bargain that keeps the peace between the two sides, presumably the one that Coyote fiated into being when he separated the two sides. And what I meant was I doubt the Court cares what happens with the mediums. They can be replaced. Care about a mortal and concern with the forest is nothing compared to striving towards god-hood. The Annan Waters are impassible save for the bridge. If the Court wanted to cut contact, all they would have to do is drop the bridge. In other words, caring about the mediums is too much of a hassle, distracting them from their 'real work' of becoming gods.
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Post by todd on Sept 11, 2012 23:07:34 GMT
And what I meant was I doubt the Court cares what happens with the mediums. They can be replaced. How easily? Currently, the Court only has three potential mediums out of (presumably) several hundred students. People with the right kind of skills for mediums probably aren't all that common. If the Court is that casual about its supply of mediums, it shouldn't be.
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Post by nero on Sept 11, 2012 23:51:40 GMT
I agree with most of your speculation except that I feel Coyote is directly responsible for Ysengrin losing his mind. Coyote might want Annie to kill Ysengrin simply because Coyote is tired of him and wants someone else to take care of it. I think you are either overestimating or underestimating Coyote's Machiavellian Potential. Manipulating Annie into killing Ysengrin simply because he is tired of him seems to be overkill. Coyote can simply strip Ysengrin of his powers and be done with it. That, or else he can simply slap him down as he has done before. Therefore it is only rational to me to see that Coyote is either not moving to the end of Ysengrin's death, or else the death of Ysengrin is simply a means to a greater end. What is this end? Maychance a furtherance of the shattering of Annie's fragile psyche? Or is it the alienation of Annie to the Court by manipulating a situation in which Annie is forced to kill Ysengrin, which causes her to feel bad, which causes her to express her wrath and confusion to the Court, but the Court feels no remorse for the slaying of Ysengrin causing Annie to flee to the forest as she did last summer? If Coyote is in fact moving to the death of Ysengrin, he is swiftly moving to a Gambit Pileup or a Batman Gambit. I feel it is more likely that he is just letting the Lord of Chaos rule or else just messing with everyone for the the sheer enjoyment.(The last link explicitly calls out the Native American god Coyote, so make your own judgments. I usually function here on this board as an enlightened Devil's Advocate.) Yeah, you're right that I'm overestimating how dark Coyote can be. He hasn't actually been shown taking anyone's life or planning to. He has threatened Annie with the bind, but he knew Annie wouldn't tell anyone. As for setting up Annie against Ysengrin I'm not sure why he wants to mess with Ysengrin. He helped them become friends and now he's taking that away. It could be that he's actually testing if Ysengrin can be friends with a human or mostly human.
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Post by Mitth'raw'nuruodo on Sept 12, 2012 3:49:02 GMT
How easily? Currently, the Court only has three potential mediums out of (presumably) several hundred students. People with the right kind of skills for mediums probably aren't all that common. If the Court is that casual about its supply of mediums, it shouldn't be. The question becomes one of simple utility. We have not seen the Court have any demonstrable need for a medium. As far as I can tell the only time Annie has acted in her official capacity was the Tic-Toc Scandal (which she inadvertantly caused). It does not seem as though the Court needs a medium, and more specifically they do not need a medium who is causing many of the issues she must mediate. Again, the Court can cut contact with the Wood anytime it desires. Simply drop the bridge. From a safety standpoint, a utilitarian standpoint, and a political standpoint Annie may be nearing the end of her usefulness and may be approaching the territory of a detriment to the Court. Coyote could rightfully hold her up as an official representation of the Court whom is both flippant and aggressive with himself and his duly appointed representative.
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Post by Tierra Y Libertad on Sept 12, 2012 4:22:14 GMT
Eglamore looks like a mask-free Batman on this page. How hard is it to make those beacons?
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Post by warrl on Sept 12, 2012 5:44:58 GMT
I'm still a lil resentful of that cop-out where Annie mentioned in passing that she learned what Jones is during the summer break. Perhaps you need to reread it and think about what Annie said. I believe the under-message is: Annie thinks Ysengrim doesn't have a clue either.
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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 12, 2012 9:00:05 GMT
Eglamore looks like a mask-free Batman on this page. How hard is it to make those beacons? The materials only come from the bottom of a single ore mine in Morroco, known only as "the Pit". So, quite hard considering you have to climb back out with the rocks tied to your back. Deshi. Basara. Deshi. Basrara.
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