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Post by hanneswall on Mar 21, 2012 15:30:02 GMT
1: Anthony is super flabbergasted by Brinnie because he is in love with Surma already. He had never even considered loving anyone else, so any idea that he might like her was unacceptable. Pretty much my thought. Though at the same time this seems like a dangerously "simple" conclusion to come to since we already know the long-term results of their relationships. Perhaps more complicated things happen before the Anthony/Surma hookup. ... hence the rest of the items in your list I guess, heh. Well, seeing as he in 1013 claims that he doesn't even know he's supposed to feel when he likes someone I'd not wager all too much on him being in love with Surma at this point. At least not consciously. I'm not really surprised by his actions either, if you put someone as angst-ridden as him into a situation like that it's quite a stretch to expect him to act like they wanted him to. I would probably done something similar. Concerning the posts about how "Brinnies gonna get back at him", was there any way for him to resolve this (considering the distress he feels) without upsetting her in any way?
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Post by nero on Mar 21, 2012 15:50:22 GMT
So, wait how did Eglamore change from brown hair to black hair?
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Post by hanneswall on Mar 21, 2012 15:58:17 GMT
Hair products?
I think it's just him alternating between very short/buzzcut hair which looks darker and the longer which looks browner (Bleached by the sun maybe?)
Or just natural darkening(?). My hair has become a lot darker as I've gotten older. Probably the same case with Eggers.
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Post by Serenissima on Mar 21, 2012 16:05:33 GMT
I had strawberry blonde hair when I was little. It's gotten progressively darker ever since, so that's a reasonable explanation.
I also have to say that despite their 'good intentions', doing it this way and trying to force Tony to act in public was probably a pretty mean thing to do. Though I'm sure they didn't intend it to be mean.
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Post by Ulysses on Mar 21, 2012 16:06:10 GMT
People's hair does get darker as they get older. I used to be so blonde my hair was almost white, whereas now I'm basically a brunet.
As for the story - Brinnie! Forget Anthony! Go find Siegfried, he's a nice young man (until he gets tricked into forgetting you and marries someone else, but let's not focus on that).
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Post by myzelf on Mar 21, 2012 19:00:10 GMT
So, Valknuts go ZAM?
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Post by Spike on Mar 21, 2012 20:59:28 GMT
I love the way Donny's glasses bend to represent his surprise.
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Post by 78941 on Mar 21, 2012 21:31:29 GMT
Ah. Bad plan ladies. Tony's problem isn't about being assertive or not. He clearly has no problem doing what he wants. The problem is he doesn't know what to do, and he's not going to act before he figures it out. This is something he can't find a solution to without going on a date with her, and until he realizes that he's paralyzed. This was my thought when I saw the comic:
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Post by lunarluminesce on Mar 21, 2012 22:01:54 GMT
People's hair does get darker as they get older. Yeah? My sister's hair was like that too, but mine is the opposite. I was born with black hair, and it became brown as I grew older. Also, I don't think that what Surma and the others did was 'mean'. It may not have been the best way to handle the situation, but if it was left entirely to Anthony, it is highly likely nothing would have been resolved. Not to mention that asking Brinnie to come along isn't a confession of love. Just another way for him to find out if he likes her. And, if it doesn't work out and they decide not to start dating, Brinnie could feel that he at least tried. (On the other hand, she might think he was leading her along, which makes everything worse...)
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Post by cazador0 on Mar 21, 2012 22:19:14 GMT
What Don should have done was talk to Tony privately to discuss this, not force a public reaction, especially given that the problem wasn't Tony being too shy, but Tony not being sure what to do. Frankly, I probably would have reacted similar to Tony in this situation.
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 21, 2012 23:04:41 GMT
As for the story - Brinnie! Forget Anthony! Go find Siegfried, he's a nice young man (until he gets tricked into forgetting you and marries someone else, but let's not focus on that). Or Hartnit (the guy for whom Mimir made armor he ended up giving to Sigurd). Until a dragon gets him, anyway, but then there's his brother. It did "ZAM" the first time too.
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Post by Clouds on Mar 22, 2012 1:14:44 GMT
I love the outfits shown in this page, especially Surma's. I can't help but wonder where Brinnie got her clothes... I'm wondering if Annie's made the connection between Brinnie and the girl in the photo. According to Tom's Formspring, she hasn't seen the events in Ties.
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Post by Tierra Y Libertad on Mar 22, 2012 1:37:53 GMT
What a moron. That's the first thought that came to me when I saw this page. What a moron. Screw your courage to the sticking place, my lad! She's begging you! It's the perfect opportunity!
On the other hand, I'm not sure how old these kids are supposed to be, so maybe getting all worked up about dating isn't the best idea right now.
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Post by Clouds on Mar 22, 2012 2:32:39 GMT
On the other hand, I'm not sure how old these kids are supposed to be, so maybe getting all worked up about dating isn't the best idea right now. They are 15, which means they're probably slightly older than Annie is right now.
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Post by amethystsoul on Mar 22, 2012 5:03:11 GMT
Annie's year 9 - which is 13-14 year olds.
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Post by wombat on Mar 22, 2012 5:09:48 GMT
I have to wonder if Brinnie really liked Tony or if she saw Anja & Donny and Surma & James and figured she needed someone. And of course, Tony would be the obvious choice.
Also, it kind of looks like she's copying his hairstyle.
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Post by darklao on Mar 22, 2012 5:43:43 GMT
tbqh he seems kinda PDD-NOS, rather than cowardly/"moronic"/clueless etc
it's not that he doesn't know something is going on and something ought to be done about it, or not, it seems to me to be that he is getting hung up on underlying mechanics that everyone else takes for granted because they operate instinctively/intuitively whereas he has to figure out how to do it "manually" as it were
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Post by legion on Mar 22, 2012 6:53:09 GMT
The last time a girl asked me out, I answered "No, I don't want to be in a relationship right now".
And then she insisted we still try.
Apparently "no means no" isn't valid for boys. </mini-rant>
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Post by pasko on Mar 22, 2012 8:43:36 GMT
It's also good to see the Valknut return. I was wondering about that guy. Something that's been bugging me ever since I first saw it in "Ties" was if it was unicursal or tricursal. This one is clearly the former, and with that knowledge, it's much easier to make out the one in "Ties" is also unicursal. I have no idea if this has any significance to the story, I just found it interesting. Of course if further exposure to Brinnie's magic reveal that she can also use tricursal Valknuts I'll be totally flabbergasted. Most likely it's unicursal because it's drawn with a single finger.
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Post by Georgie L on Mar 22, 2012 8:48:14 GMT
Mine was Ginger and got progressively blonder as I got older, it's now mostly blonde (my beard is ginger in patches when I let it grow out.)
But back to the topic at hand. I agree with the hypothesis that Anthony is more 'mechanically-minded' and so has to plan everything out before making a decision.
At first I agreed with the he already loved surma hypothesis, but after reading the comment about him saying he doesn't know how he should feel, I think that at least conciously he is unaware of any feelings for Surma.
I also think he has made up his mind and found that he isn't interested in Brinnie in that way, but due to not being ready for this being sprung on him clammed up and made an excuse.
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Post by cass on Mar 22, 2012 12:30:04 GMT
Wow, trapped much? I have to say it's incredibly rude of them to try and force them together like this.
Though, maybe they're more Brinnie's friends than they are his....
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Post by rama on Mar 22, 2012 13:49:50 GMT
Most likely it's unicursal because it's drawn with a single finger. I didn't even think about looking for clues like that. Now when I search it I find that she actually drew it with two fingers, but they're held together, so it holds up. Then again it's possible to draw 3 triangles with one (or two) fingers without making it unicursal. If she had drawn just one more angle in that one panel I would've been convinced on your notion alone, but as it's drawn she's just at the end of the first triangle, so no clue there. Bummer. I tend to agree with those who think that Surma and Anja didn't think through how big of a deal that could be to Anthony. What I'm more interested in is if Surma and Anja knew what Donny knew, and if they'd try this if they did know. Putting someone like Anthony, to whom this doesn't seem to come naturally, in a situation where he's basically forced to publicly either A. come clean with that he just doesn't know, or B. try to sneak out of it, hurting Brinnie in the process. Here's a wild thought though: What if he actually did have work to do. Not everything that sounds like an excuse is an excuse. By and large I sympathise with Tony this time. Growing up I remember having similar tendencies, trying to apply the same kind of thinking to stuff people normally don't seem really put that much analysis into.
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Post by csj on Mar 22, 2012 14:26:24 GMT
it's silly to expect him to "make his move"; in the right conditions. Normally? Why not, he would be just playing a good gentleman. A rather selective quote, but here goes. If he plays along with Brinnie, he would end up stringing her along, attracting (from his perspective) further unwanted attention and (possibly) making him feel like he's taking advantage of said feelings. That's how I'm reading his decision and in all honesty, I can see myself reacting in a similar way. Of course, the problem is that he's unwilling to approach her outright and explain exactly how he feels about her advances. Running theme is clearly 'lack of communication' here and judging by his attitude, it's because he doesn't know what to say and/or how to say it, and doesn't want to hurt Brinnie's feelings (either by getting her hopes up only to dash them later down the track, or by confronting her about it in the wrong way).
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Post by noblemanofreason on Mar 22, 2012 15:58:08 GMT
I just hope Brinnie isn't teleporting to borrow Gungnir from the'old man' for a little 'Tony hunt'.
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Post by Tierra Y Libertad on Mar 22, 2012 20:50:51 GMT
On the other hand, I'm not sure how old these kids are supposed to be, so maybe getting all worked up about dating isn't the best idea right now. They are 15, which means they're probably slightly older than Annie is right now. In that case, dating is unimportant. It may feel really important right now, especially for the young ladies, but fifteen is pretty young for boyfriends and girlfriends. They have a long way to go.
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Post by Kriselia on Mar 22, 2012 23:13:18 GMT
I tend to agree with those who think that Surma and Anja didn't think through how big of a deal that could be to Anthony. What I'm more interested in is if Surma and Anja knew what Donny knew, and if they'd try this if they did know. Thinking the same thing too, my guess is Surma and Anja were more Brinnie's friends really and figured they'd try to help things along (since watching her throwing herself at Anthony for weeks must've been getting old). They probably didn't let the guys in on the loop, I'd like to think Donny would be a good enough friend to Anthony to point out it would only end badly. Donny's probably the only one who realizes Anthony's completely freaking out after all. Also, I'm really digging Brinnie's outfits in all these pages, especially this one. Looks great. And Anthony's rocking that hairstyle.
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Post by eruedraith on Mar 23, 2012 0:20:15 GMT
I adore Brinnie's little 'are you ****ing kidding me' at the end there.
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Post by cass on Mar 23, 2012 3:07:41 GMT
Concerning the posts about how "Brinnies gonna get back at him", was there any way for him to resolve this (considering the distress he feels) without upsetting her in any way? Hard to say. Depends a lot on what sort of person she is. You might think the best way to let her down gently would be to say that they just seem unlikely to share any interests. "Unless you like spending hours talking about maths, you'd find me a very boring date." But some people will take that sort of let-down as you being dishonest with them. Because, for instance, they're good at reading you, or they have really low self-esteem and think that if someone doesn't want them it MUST be because they're horrible in some way. The gentlest let down is, of course, body language. If someone looks you over and doesn't come over in the first few seconds of making eye contact, I tend to assume they're not particularly interested. Either that or they're getting into creepy feeling you up with their eyes territory.... He's been pretty much blanking her for ages, you can't communicate much more 'I'm not interested' without saying it out-loud or turning your back and walking away. If he wanted to end it sharply, he could just point out that no-one likes pushy girls.... Might be the best thing for her to hear in the long run anyway. I'm not that worried about her getting back at him though. That'd be really petty and I like to think that the group have a better taste in friends than that. I think she's probably gone off to have a bit of privacy to be upset in. Near enough everyone's at least a little hurt when they put themselves out there and the other person doesn't want to get to know them better, especially if it happens in front of all their friends.
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 23, 2012 10:26:13 GMT
Hmm. There was (is?) some awkwardness between Eggers and Annie because of, um, historical considerations. I wonder how would it be with Brinnie should she ever show up in Timeline 0. I don't think there will be tiptoeing like with Renard. Brinnie is a Valkyrie, and from what little we saw, probably much more into enjoying the present than pointless regrets of what didn't happen. Let alone in such a situation. And is more likely to football someone around the whole Court than stoop to any form of "it's a mistake that you exist", so even completely disregarding Antimony's invisible summer training, no Fire Spike II potential here. And given Annie's record, she probably will be deeply and visibly charmed in no time - something between her reaction on Jones and ex-fairies. But that's a boring explanation! I'd much rather assume that Donny being a wacky teen genius inventor, he created a pair of robotic glasses that change shape according to his current emotions. My theory is that he made them refocus properly, but never managed to filter out the signal from eyebrows. Let's hope Smitty won't need a pair, he would make them explode. Oh man, I wonder what kind of parents Tony had... I'm sticking with the Little Grey Folk From A Flying Saucer until there's some evidence to the contrary! ;D
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Post by notacat on Mar 25, 2012 21:39:23 GMT
Has anybody yet considered the possibility that he actually did have work to do?
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