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Post by Refugee on Nov 10, 2011 2:54:21 GMT
That also makes me wonder: If you just put Smits up against Jeanne, would he win out of pure negative entropic luck? Or would his talent not work against ghosts at all? I don't think that's how his skill works. No, I don't either, although I expect as he gains experience with his powers, particularly under Parley's somewhat martial influence, he may find interesting uses for them. I speak only of his possible effect on Parley. I'm not entirely convinced that he just happens to "bam" when Parley "bips"; I think he may be affecting the chaos in her brain as she makes decisions, particularly in a semi-chaotic situation like a fight. It's not a huge effect, it's just that when she's thinking about jumping, or selecting one of the many options available to her at any given moment, he has some effect on the final outcome. Not that he knows anything about sword fighting, either, any more than he knows about teleporting or even card sorting. He just knows the outcome he desires. (And no, I don't think Parley's brain is unusually chaotic for humans, but then, I can only speak from my experience of my own brain.) (And may I say I find Parley's name a bit ironic? She really is more martially inclined than negotiative.)
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Post by quirkykelly on Nov 10, 2011 3:43:52 GMT
I'm trying to remember - who was it who advised Annie that the ghost of Annan Waters (now known as Jeanne) needed a guide to help her escape? Muut? From what I can remember of that advice, this approach to freeing Jeanne seems more violent than I expected, though Annie did try the non-violent approach. But as someone said, she's already a ghost.
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Post by Elm on Nov 10, 2011 5:15:02 GMT
If the goal was trying to distract Jeanne for a set amount of time, not win a fight, I think he would come out all right in the end. That's how it works then, yes? On another note, it seems like Shadow is just gradually sliding towards the floor during the match
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Post by basser on Nov 10, 2011 5:57:33 GMT
If the goal was trying to distract Jeanne for a set amount of time, not win a fight, I think he would come out all right in the end. That's how it works then, yes? On another note, it seems like Shadow is just gradually sliding towards the floor during the match Maybe he's gonna coalesce into an independent shadow-person and Parley will have to fight SHADOW PARLEY. Now THAT would be fan service!
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Post by BingsF on Nov 10, 2011 7:14:49 GMT
I'm trying to remember - who was it who advised Annie that the ghost of Annan Waters (now known as Jeanne) needed a guide to help her escape? Muut? From what I can remember of that advice, this approach to freeing Jeanne seems more violent than I expected, though Annie did try the non-violent approach. But as someone said, she's already a ghost. I think they're working from the information gained during "The Coward Heart", where they see that the 'arrow' shot into the river seems to be linked to Jeanne's captivity. Of course they have no way of knowing what will or won't happen if they disturb it, but what better plan is available than go ahead and see what happens? It's just like Annie with the moon: Scientific Test #1 = Poke it. EDIT: I meant "Sky Watcher and the Angel", but it's shown in both.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 10, 2011 9:51:24 GMT
Of course they have no way of knowing what will or won't happen if they disturb it, but what better plan is available than go ahead and see what happens? They could just destroy it in place, but that might not free Jeanne and if it didn't free her they might then be out of options. It would be less risky in that sense to examine it thoroughly before deciding on what course of action to take, and that's something they probably can't do underwater at the bottom of the Annan gorge, or in the Woods. I speculate they'll probably bring it back with them to the Court. It's also been speculated before that moving the arrow might move Jeanne's bounded area. It might be interesting to see what she'd do first on returning to the Court... It's just like Annie with the moon: Scientific Test #1 = Poke it. Basic lab procedure: Always wear the correct protective gear! I wouldn't touch that green glowy arrow without insulated gloves at the very least, preferably with tongs and a proper container to carry it in. However, if they do grab it with a bare hand the results might be telling; since that arrow was created to slay/imprison the person who's heart was held by the victim we might find out if Antimony has any feelings for Jack if she should touch that thing, or if Kat likes anyone. Here's hoping Smitface doesn't throw/drop it or anything, it might go where it's "supposed" to...
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Post by smjjames on Nov 10, 2011 14:33:06 GMT
Basic lab procedure: Always wear the correct protective gear! I wouldn't touch that green glowy arrow without insulated gloves at the very least, preferably with tongs and a proper container to carry it in. However, if they do grab it with a bare hand the results might be telling; since that arrow was created to slay/imprison the person who's heart was held by the victim we might find out if Antimony has any feelings for Jack if she should touch that thing, or if Kat likes anyone. Here's hoping Smitface doesn't throw/drop it or anything, it might go where it's "supposed" to... According to this, it seems safe to actually handle it. It also has an extremely strange and unaerodynamic head to it. Then again, the guy holding it is a master archer.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 10, 2011 16:37:42 GMT
According to this, it seems safe to actually handle it. It also has an extremely strange and unaerodynamic head to it. Then again, the guy holding it is a master archer. If you look at the last panel on that page there appears to be a mid-shaft pin or maybe a tiny dial. We can't tell when he's actually firing it in #658 if Steadman is wearing gloves though panel 5 looks like he probably is. I may be biased but I would think that pin comes out to arm the device before firing, otherwise it might catch on the sleeve or bow. Even if no, assuming that a fired munition you dig up is spent and harmless is probably not good.
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Post by fuzzyone on Nov 10, 2011 18:24:59 GMT
I think the pin you are seeing is Steadman's coat button.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 10, 2011 21:15:19 GMT
I think the pin you are seeing is Steadman's coat button. I have blown up the image and you may be right... That is the right size and about the right level for a button though it is drawn right over top of the arrow shaft (see red arrow). Perhaps the arrow is transparent? I do not see a line through it from the jacket's front opening but there that might be the edge of his shoulder peeking through (see yellow arrow).
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Post by descoladavirus on Nov 10, 2011 23:26:02 GMT
That probably is his coat button, and an oversight on Tom's in not erasing the button from inside the arrow. I'm interested in seeing if Jeanne and Parley talk at all during their "distraction" Would it be possible to explain to Jeanne that they hope to remove steadman's arrow and free her? Would she allow them to? Likely it will have to be taken back to the court and studied before she is freed. Which means the court may freak out at not only discovering a secret, but losing the protection of the waters.
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Post by smjjames on Nov 11, 2011 1:00:34 GMT
Likely an oversight on Toms part, and I'd say that one of the lines just happens to line up to his shoulder. Although those lines aren't present on the shaft in the previous frame and the lines from his jacket don't show through on the previous frame either.
Really no point in nitpicking a tiny detail.
As far as they talking to each other, possibly as talking would be a distraction in itself.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 11, 2011 8:55:56 GMT
Also the rez in the little robot's memory could be better. Agree about coat button probably being an oversight, though we should see it up close before too many more chapters and it wouldn't shock me if it were made of glass or something.
PS: I still think the arrow could be dangerous to handle.
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