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Post by Per on Dec 8, 2010 12:11:39 GMT
But who IS this Eglamoer.
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Post by whattheziek on Dec 8, 2010 12:11:59 GMT
Eggers in tight pants, truly this is the best Wednesday. Oh yay! I'm not the only one who noticed he was wearing skinny-jeans. What a hipster. I am gleeing to see FMA fans on here as well. High-five guys! ... but now I'm kinda paranoid because of bizarre links to my own project which has been inspired by GKC but is totally not at all a rip-off (no really I didn't steal nothin' (and it doesn't exist yet anyway)) ... because literally yesterday I thought of assosciating chalk with the more magical peoples. and now this. Creepy coincidence, eh? blastdragon: that fire thing you noticed? Super triple awesome. ;D
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Post by todd on Dec 8, 2010 13:04:30 GMT
But who IS this Eglamoer. Isn't this joke (which all came about due to a change in Tom's drawing style and methods between Chapters Fourteen and Seventeen) getting old?
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Post by Taslin on Dec 8, 2010 13:09:02 GMT
Hi everyone. New guy here. I have thought of something interesting. The treatise pages Tom puts up have clues to future events right? Well the last treatise page, found here www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=560, shows Kat leading Annie back to the court from the forest. Possibly hinting that Kat, or at least the thought of Kat, will bring Annie back? I really hope this theory about Kat is right. Specifically, if she marches in there and talks some sense into her friend. It would be pretty cool to see her playing a mediator for once. One more thing, though--in the treatise, is Ysengrin picture is marked with the symbol for bismuth??? Or am I just hallucinating?
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Post by noblemanofreason on Dec 8, 2010 13:27:28 GMT
I also hope that Kat, in some form, comes to Annie. I feel that right now, Kat is the only person that A) Annie feels she can still trust and B) will actually try to help Annie without also taking advantage of the information she has learned, which I suspect Coyote and Ysengrin will.
Speaking of Chuckles, yes he is marked by the Bismuth symbol, which of course represents the court, in the treatise. If you notice carefully, Renardyne is marked with the Antimony symbol, a sign of Annie's ownership over him.
Makes you wonder what connection Ysengrin has to the court. Possibly another reason why the court isn't worried about him gaining powers from Coyote?
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Post by blastdragon on Dec 8, 2010 13:39:31 GMT
One more thing, though--in the treatise, is Ysengrin picture is marked with the symbol for bismuth??? Or am I just hallucinating? Bismuth is the symbol from the court. And it is around the ear that Ysengrin has lost. I guess the court is the reason Ysengrin lost his ear. You can see (or not) the lost ear in this comic, the best place is the first panel. www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=673
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Post by Midnight Meadows on Dec 8, 2010 13:40:15 GMT
Isn't this joke (which all came about due to a change in Tom's drawing style and methods between Chapters Fourteen and Seventeen) getting old? A little bit... maybe.... No, not in the least.
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Post by percival on Dec 8, 2010 13:59:49 GMT
I loved that show as a kid! Dating myself, I know. But I still sing the song to myself on occasion.
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Post by Eversist on Dec 8, 2010 14:06:12 GMT
... because literally yesterday I thought of assosciating chalk with the more magical peoples. and now this. Creepy coincidence, eh? Chalk has been used to denote magicians for ages. If you're going with the old-fashioned version of magic, all of the magicians supposed "magic" is really done by demons, summoned using two chalk circles, along with herbs, sacrifices, candles, you name it. The circles can really be drawn with anything, but chalk is the basic writing utensil. I wouldn't worry too much.
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Post by q3 on Dec 8, 2010 14:09:13 GMT
Anyways, I wonder how Annie will get along with the Court now that Rey's told her the truth? I can't forsee her wanting to go back anymore. Yet, the earlier narration in the story hinted that she was still in school by the time her father came back. Really? All she said was that it would be at least 2 years until he contacted her. No hint as to her whereabouts then. ANTHONY: Antimony, please. Do cease to inhabit that tree as if you were a bushy-tailed rodent. ANNIE: Dadd- Father! I have missed you dearly. Might we live together as parent and child from now on? ANTHONY: I have matters to attend to.
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Post by Rex on Dec 8, 2010 14:35:55 GMT
Really? All she said was that it would be at least 2 years until he contacted her. No hint as to her whereabouts then. ANTHONY: Antimony, please. Do cease to inhabit that tree as if you were a bushy-tailed rodent. ANNIE: Dadd- Father! I have missed you dearly. Might we live together as parent and child from now on? ANTHONY: I have matters to attend to. ! My God, it's beautiful... All you need is to spinkle some Mr. Chuckles HAHAHAHAHA after that and you're golden.
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Post by satanicpuppy on Dec 8, 2010 14:58:48 GMT
Hi everyone. New guy here. I have thought of something interesting. The treatise pages Tom puts up have clues to future events right? Well the last treatise page, found here www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=560, shows Kat leading Annie back to the court from the forest. Possibly hinting that Kat, or at least the thought of Kat, will bring Annie back? I don't know. Annie and Kat are often used as representations of the Forest (Magic) and the Court (Science) respectively. Seems like she would be a very unlikely person to go into the forest. Something that I keep thinking about: the doll that is now Reynardine. Made by Surma, but not a fox, and not a coyote. A wolf. Seems odd. Could just be coincidence, but it makes me wonder if we're about to see some revelations from Ysengrin.
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Post by Taslin on Dec 8, 2010 15:17:01 GMT
Bismuth is the symbol from the court. And it is around the ear that Ysengrin has lost. I guess the court is the reason Ysengrin lost his ear. I know bismuth's symbolism--it's one of the reasons I found it weird to find Ysengrin marked with it. Your theory about his ear is quite plausible, though--especially since page 490 (when Coyote first arrived in Gillitie) shows him with both ears.
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Post by Darkhand on Dec 8, 2010 15:18:02 GMT
No, but you'd think that if he's on call to go out there, he'd be dressed for the occasion. He's already implied that he doesn't wear that armor that often.
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Post by zylonbane on Dec 8, 2010 15:40:20 GMT
EGLAMORE casts DISPEL MAGIC
It's super effective!
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Post by zuche on Dec 8, 2010 15:42:03 GMT
My enjoyment of this page is being thwarted by the fact that I keep hearing "Disco Inferno" ever time I look at it. ... but now I'm kinda paranoid because of bizarre links to my own project which has been inspired by GKC but is totally not at all a rip-off I wouldn't worry about it. I'm sure Mr. Chesterton wouldn't have minded.
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 8, 2010 16:03:56 GMT
Anyone seen Full Metal Alchemist? I hate to compare the two, but same basic thing... a certain symbol contains power. Well... you know the drill. ;D No, but you'd think that if he's on call to go out there, he'd be dressed for the occasion. Even without taking time to clad himself in extra bulky hardware he still was too late, both times. Do you think he'll go on anyway? I imagine that would cause a lot more problems than it would solve, relations with the forest being what they are. Knowing his character and how much his head is messed up when Surma or Annie are involved, i doubt it's on top of "things James is most likely to consider" list. But, but, Carver, what about your homework D:? ;D Aww, I just thought about Kat finding her homework in Annie's room. [...] Maybe Rey will be nice and slip it into Kat's room (assuming he is allowed out of Annie's room). It would help against teachers' attention, but he doesn't know where it should be. Then again, Kat is not going to be shocked and appaled, so... These 2 pages together must look cool because the fire burns straight to the next page... That's a cool discovery! Isn't this joke (which all came about due to a change in Tom's drawing style and methods between Chapters Fourteen and Seventeen) getting old? Old enough to become funny again. Ol' Grin's damaged ear popping up whenever treatise or "true form of a god" trip are mentioned, on the other hand, isn't. My God, it's beautiful... All you need is to spinkle some Mr. Chuckles HAHAHAHAHA after that and you're golden. Too true. EGLAMORE casts DISPEL MAGIC Symbol of Dispel.
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Post by DC on Dec 8, 2010 16:04:30 GMT
Eggers in tight pants, truly this is the best Wednesday. Indeed. Nice leggers, Eggers!
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Post by scyllarus on Dec 8, 2010 16:40:52 GMT
EGLAMORE casts DISPEL MAGIC It's super effective! Wild Antimony ran away!
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Post by scyllarus on Dec 8, 2010 16:47:29 GMT
*sigh* i can't say i called it, but i was hoping for the least likely path for annie to take rather than just "BAWW COYOTE (or ysengrin) YOU WERE RIGHT! I CAN'T TRUST THE COURT! BAWWW" :/ oh well. here's my take on the matter, now: she'll probably run into ysengrin, since he's going to notice that gosh golly INTRUDER! and go after her. she'll either demand to see coyote (can't see this helping) or baww to ys that they lied to her, etc. ys will then give her gruff comfort and reinforce her distrust of the court, and maybe take her to see coyote.
what i think would be cool is if this lead to either a) exposition on his lost ear, or b) him abandoning the tree body. i'm sorry, i just feel sad that he's all skeletal and mangy and thoroughly blame coyote for it (yes, yes, i'm aware that ys loves coyote very much.)
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Post by aegis on Dec 8, 2010 17:06:45 GMT
The ability to draw a "symbol" with chalk on any surface to product a magic effect is the central theme to the television show and movies of Full Metal Alchemist: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Metal_AlchemistIt's one of the most awesome animes out there. I was so happy to see a reference to that show. You also realize that the first anime did not follow the actual story for more than half of its run, and that god-awful movie screwed it up more... Even FMA was idealogically based off of the book The Alchemist, and chalk was used similarly in many other works (like Secret of Kells and such). This just feeds my suspicion that nothing is original anymore....
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Post by n3m0 on Dec 8, 2010 17:13:15 GMT
Anyone notice the fertility statue at the bottom middle of page 560 next to the sword? Kinda interesting given what we now know.
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Post by jayne on Dec 8, 2010 17:33:50 GMT
Anyone notice the fertility statue at the bottom middle of page 560 next to the sword? Kinda interesting given what we now know. The doll on page 560 doesn't seem zaftig enough to be a fertility statue. I think that's a nod to Jones.
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Post by suraki on Dec 8, 2010 18:22:45 GMT
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Post by myzelf on Dec 8, 2010 18:42:17 GMT
I have three thoughts: 1. Eglamore looks different. Is it just because he's dressed differently than normal? 2. Purple crayon! He shouldn't have dropped it though. He might need it later. 3. I was right. Antimony interplaced the fire spike between herself and Eglamore. I need to stop making predictions because they always come true. The ability to draw a "symbol" with chalk on any surface to product a magic effect is the central theme to the television show and movies of Full Metal Alchemist Both that show and this comic are based (at least in part) on the methodologies of true alchemists of the middle age. Alchemists used alchemical schemata kind of like the one Eglamore used today to describe chemical experiments (both for efficiency of writing and to occlude their work from the uninitiated), and mystics (many of whom were the same people) used runic circles in ritual magic.
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Post by Per on Dec 8, 2010 18:42:28 GMT
Assuming the chapter won't end with Annie disappearing into the woods, Coyote is one of the people in the cast (Jones probably being another) who could not only take all of Angry Annie's supernatural venting physically, but who'd just go "lol" afterwards.
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Post by zylonbane on Dec 8, 2010 19:55:01 GMT
Annie just needs a hug.
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Post by ajfriss on Dec 8, 2010 20:14:54 GMT
I just posted a few weeks ago in the speculation thread that this would turn into FMA and I listed reasons why.
-Main character's friend is adept at mechanics -A god contacts the character decently early on -Magic-like themes all over the place -Alchemy or related themes everywhere -Distant father, dead parent -A whole bunch more I may or may not edit into this post
And now magic chalk circles.
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Post by paxjax123 on Dec 8, 2010 20:20:15 GMT
Annie: Coyote, something terrible just happened! Coyote: Tell me all about it, Fire-head girl. Annie: *tells him about it* Coyote: Ah yes, yes, it is a shame. We knew it would happen, but that is in the past. *turns head and chuckles* Annie: >:I *fiiiire*
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Post by bnpederson on Dec 8, 2010 20:37:27 GMT
I just posted a few weeks ago in the speculation thread that this would turn into FMA and I listed reasons why. That's just silly. Having similarities doesn't mean one story will "turn into" another.
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