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Post by Refugee on Dec 6, 2010 16:04:18 GMT
Cold-light-of-day post:
I'm guessing that Annie's running, not to the Forest, but to Coyote. Why does she assume Coyote isn't also keeping this secret?
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Now that that's out of the way, I don't think she means to hurt Eglamore -- she's warning him off. He may be a bit singed, but he'll be OK.
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Did the Court keep this from her because Surma had a similar reaction when she found out about her Mom?
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I don't think this reflects on Annie's fitness as a Medium. She has a connection of some kind to the Forest folk, the psychopomps, and entities like Mort and Jeanine, which may well be the single most important qualification: she is a Medium in simple fact. The Court may simply have to deal with her as a power in her own right, and not one they appoint on their behalf.
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If there is fault here, it's Rey's. He used this revelation as a weapon on a child who was acting very much out of character.
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Post by atteSmythe on Dec 6, 2010 16:10:03 GMT
Y'know, it's interesting, as a story, trying to figure out what to make of the fire theme. Way back in A Ghost Story, fire is the enemy. I wonder if the fire in that chapter was just because it's the sort of thing that could explain the tragedy, or if it's to show the danger of the fire, or Annie's mastery of it. Or all of those things. The culmination of that story has become something of an iconic image.
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Post by Refugee on Dec 6, 2010 16:26:48 GMT
Way back in A Ghost Story, fire is the enemy. Uncontrolled fire, set by an unknowing child, was the enemy. Annie's fire, I think, is not the same. I agree with your mastery comment. Talk about iconic: In [531], Annie has a spiky fire crown. Also, that whole sequence shows the psychopomps' interest in her as a Medium. Her suitability is not only for the Court to decide.
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Post by Mylian on Dec 6, 2010 16:35:27 GMT
I wonder who she bumps into first? I'm going to guess Ysengrin. Time to wait for Wednesday >:T I dare say she might end up earning just a little more respect from him when the gloves are off.
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Post by rylfrazier on Dec 6, 2010 17:24:59 GMT
Can't way to see where this story goes!
Just a bit of speculation - I strongly doubt we'll see Annie expelled from the court for this. I think they need her a lot more than she needs them, and that if the court was involved in the decision to have Surma have a child even though it'd kill her, they'll accept that Annie's reaction was pretty natural to gaining this knowledge.
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Post by basser on Dec 6, 2010 17:26:10 GMT
Hahaha. So I was reading up on some of the assay tests we do at my lab, and got to the page about antimony (we don't actually test for it at my lab since we're a lead/silver mine, but the machine still has the capability). Under uses it's listed as a "flame retardant and hardening alloy for lead." That combined with the fact that Eglamore (and/or dragonslayers in general) is associated with the alchemical symbol for lead makes this page sort of hilarious in a terrible way.
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Post by Refugee on Dec 6, 2010 17:27:48 GMT
...I strongly doubt we'll see Annie expelled from the court for this. I think they need her a lot more than she needs them, and that if the court was involved in the decision to have Surma have a child even though it'd kill her, they'll accept that Annie's reaction was pretty natural to gaining this knowledge. Oh, yeah. They must be pissing their pants right now at the idea of Angry Annie acting one-sidedly on Coyote's behalf.
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Post by Loki on Dec 6, 2010 17:35:46 GMT
Yes, Annie! Unleash your ethereal rage fire upon he who dares try to stop you >=O
... Okay, that's probably not happening but it looks awesome anyway. I love that 4th panel followed by the fire hair <3
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Post by alya1989262 on Dec 6, 2010 17:49:21 GMT
I notice we can't hear whatever Eglamore's saying... Could be either "Surma!" or "Antimony!", I guess.
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Post by Refugee on Dec 6, 2010 17:55:39 GMT
I notice we can't hear whatever Eglamore's saying... Could be either "Surma!" or "Antimony!", I guess. I think it's two words, a short and a long. I suspect profanity.
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Post by Snes on Dec 6, 2010 18:24:54 GMT
I think it's two words, a short and a long. I suspect profanity. I doubt Eglamore would be shouting profanities at Annie right now. If he does swear, it'd probably be under his breath. Remember, he has no idea why Annie ran out here. He's probably just saying "Carver! Come back!" or something basic like that.
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Post by Refugee on Dec 6, 2010 18:40:42 GMT
I think it's two words, a short and a long. I suspect profanity. I doubt Eglamore would be shouting profanities at Annie right now. Not at Annie, as such, more like a general expression of frustration, even fear (for her). "God dammit!" is specifically what I had in mind. Most of what I've been able to think of is words of equal length: "Come back!"; reversed lengths: "Stop it!"; or too many words: "Stop right there!" Hm. "He's sorry!" might work, but doesn't feel strong enough. === Doesn't matter, I guess. Whatever it is, Annie's having none of it.
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Post by satanicpuppy on Dec 6, 2010 19:25:55 GMT
I'm going with "no one hurt." Seems pretty clearly a wall, rather than an attack.
Though the first thing that popped into my head when I read it was a stick-figure Eglamore with smoke coming off of his head, saying to Anja et al "I think she found out about the mom thing."
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Post by jayne on Dec 6, 2010 19:42:02 GMT
I'm afraid this fire starts small at Annie but grows huge as it travels... and it looks like it's consuming the bridge lights as it grows. The building is made of stone so at least it should be fireproof, but Eggers is in bad shape if he can't jump all the way back to safety.
But then, he managed to get here from wherever he was really fast, he should be able to get out of there as fast.
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Post by allec on Dec 6, 2010 19:54:05 GMT
I wonder if Eglamore would go through fire for Surma.
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Post by jayne on Dec 6, 2010 20:06:48 GMT
In other news... I think the forest has been given an unmissable signal that something is coming!
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Post by bdubs on Dec 6, 2010 20:07:58 GMT
If we look at frame two we see Annie is ~ 1/3 the height of one of those lanterns. And the last frame shows the fire to be ~ 5 lanterns high depending on where you measure. If we assume Annie to be ~ 5 feet tall we have a 75 foot tall pyre of doom. Impressive Annie. I'm not even going to bother to try for the width but that seems rather impressive as well as it is covering at least 4 lanterns that we can see from this angle.
If this fire is indeed creating the giant fourth-wall breaking spike that is leaving the frame then if we use the same scale we have a ~200 foot tall at its highest "fire spike" On that bridge.
Who needs a crudely made symbol to get the forest's attention?
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Post by atteSmythe on Dec 6, 2010 20:16:26 GMT
Two bridge scenes. Two Angry Annies. Really cool to see the consistent characterization, and the year's progression. She's definitely more dangerous now. They're going to have to start locking that door or something. edit: Man, Mort was more right than he knew. What the hell, Annie?
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Post by davros on Dec 6, 2010 20:47:37 GMT
Antimony Carver-flamethrower for hire. Anyway, I'm kinda worried about Eglamore(if that man running after Annie IS him-I think it is). I'm not sure whether this fire is "harmless" like the fire we've seen Annie produce previously, given her...unstable..state right now. As for who Annie is running for, I suspect it's Coyote or Ysengrin she is running to, but the last panel looks as if she has fallen off the bridge.
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Post by myzelf on Dec 6, 2010 21:08:20 GMT
I'm going to posit that Antimony did not ignite herself or Eglamore, but rather the space between them, creating a pyre so that no one can follow her.
Also, I like that the fire's so hot that it melted the panel outline.
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Post by jayne on Dec 6, 2010 21:38:35 GMT
I'm not sure she's running toward anything.. I think, at this moment, she hates everyone and everything to do with the court (except Kat) and she's never going back there....
She's just running... away.
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Post by beatfox on Dec 6, 2010 21:51:57 GMT
This was the greatest comment page post.
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Post by mistysoul on Dec 6, 2010 22:38:13 GMT
I'm telling you guys, Annie is some kind of Phoenix and so was Surma.
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Post by aegis on Dec 6, 2010 23:22:18 GMT
Hahaha. So I was reading up on some of the assay tests we do at my lab, and got to the page about antimony (we don't actually test for it at my lab since we're a lead/silver mine, but the machine still has the capability). Under uses it's listed as a "flame retardant and hardening alloy for lead." That combined with the fact that Eglamore (and/or dragonslayers in general) is associated with the alchemical symbol for lead makes this page sort of hilarious in a terrible way. I pretty much said this on page 2. NINJA! Still true, and you probably have better authority than me.
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Post by todd on Dec 6, 2010 23:29:14 GMT
If Annie's turning her back on the Court for good (as the most recent pages are suggesting), I wonder where the story will go after that. There are too many things left unresolved for this to be the last chapter (Jeanne's still trapped in the chasm, for example), so while I think this will be the last chapter of Book Three, there'll most likely be other chapters to come.
The comic's named after the Court, so moving away from it (even to the forest next-door) as the main setting would be unlikely. Or is Tom planning on making this some daring "write-Annie-out-of-the-story" event, her swan song, with a new protagonist (whether a promoted secondary character or a brand new figure) to succeed her? We'll have to wait and see.
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Post by joephlommin on Dec 7, 2010 0:39:11 GMT
If Annie's turning her back on the Court for good (as the most recent pages are suggesting), I wonder where the story will go after that. There are too many things left unresolved for this to be the last chapter (Jeanne's still trapped in the chasm, for example), so while I think this will be the last chapter of Book Three, there'll most likely be other chapters to come. The comic's named after the Court, so moving away from it (even to the forest next-door) as the main setting would be unlikely. Or is Tom planning on making this some daring "write-Annie-out-of-the-story" event, her swan song, with a new protagonist (whether a promoted secondary character or a brand new figure) to succeed her? We'll have to wait and see. Reading this post made me think.... myfacewhen.com/192/
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Post by haunt on Dec 7, 2010 0:43:16 GMT
The future's so bright, I gotta wear shaaaaades!
Yeah, I don't know.
I think it's Eglamore coming after her; we know, from previously, that he's likely the standard bridge-protector-guy that comes running when the alarm goes off. Somehow, though, I doubt he'll be killed by this. Maybe singed, but he's not going to die--especially if Annie's giving him a warning and not aiming to kill. (Although if she's just flinging something at him without thinking...)
I wonder if Annie is running away to get away; running to hide in the forest for a while and think about things; or running to the forest to take the Test and stay there forever. I'm not sure she's thought this through well enough to really know what she's planning, herself.
I just hope that Anja&co aren't nasty to Renard about this. I mean, yes, okay, it's technically his fault that she flipped out, but they shouldn't have kept this from her for so long, and locking him up or whatever isn't going to help that.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 7, 2010 1:09:51 GMT
Another excellent reason for it to be Eggers is that Eggers would probably not report the whole assault/attempted murder of a teacher thing. I expect he be unable to cover up the leaving school grounds bit because of the alarm, but I'm sure he could figure out a way to overlook the fire stuff or write it off as an accident. If it were any other teacher we'd be starting threads speculating how the change in Renard and Antimony's relationship from jailer/prisoner to cellmates would go, and how many tries it'd take Boxbot to relabel the sign SECRET TRAIN TO LARGE ANIMAL ANNIE HOLDING CELLS.
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Post by Yin on Dec 7, 2010 2:15:21 GMT
I had the most bizarre dream after seeing this page last night. I can't remember what else was in it, but what stuck out was Wednesday's page. Eglamore fused with Sivo, chasing Annie.
In other news, perhaps Annie's genetic line is connected with fire elementals?
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Post by bnpederson on Dec 7, 2010 3:51:46 GMT
Another excellent reason for it to be Eggers is that Eggers would probably not report the whole assault/attempted murder of a teacher thing. I expect he be unable to cover up the leaving school grounds bit because of the alarm, but I'm sure he could figure out a way to overlook the fire stuff or write it off as an accident. If it were any other teacher we'd be starting threads speculating how the change in Renard and Antimony's relationship from jailer/prisoner to cellmates would go, and how many tries it'd take Boxbot to relabel the sign SECRET TRAIN TO LARGE ANIMAL ANNIE HOLDING CELLS. Eh? What makes you think that? Of the authority figures we've seen a significant amount of we have Jones (is emotionless and has shown fairness over adventures in the past), Anja and Donald (are very involved with this, would by sympathetic over her discovering she killed her mother, wouldn't want to hurt Kat by punishing Annie severly), Doctor Disaster (wouldn't even be out there, might well consider it fun when it comes down to it), Bob (who kept the secret of Annie's breakdown and seemed level headed given his hoouse was taken over), Marcia (who is a dryad and thus somewhat in touch with the forest and ditto on Bob), and the headmaster (whom we know very little about). As far as I can tell if ANY of them were out there they'd probably be able to fend off any trouble and wouldn't be overly harsh once they knew what was going on. Really, the teachers we know are a generally laid back bunch. In other news, perhaps Annie's genetic line is connected with fire elementals? That sounds waaaay more in depth than Gunnerkrigg seems to be regarding magic. As far as I can tell, magic just kinda exists and what it can do is at best loosely controlled by the person(s) doing the magic. I'd be shocked if there was any reason directly given for this other than Annie was angry/upset.
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