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Post by tyler on Aug 6, 2010 20:42:39 GMT
He *may* be right, but I'd bet money that he's wrong. EDITED TO ADD: I rather dislike assumption atop of assumptions stated as facts. There's nothing to show or indicate that this is a "sigil". It may be, but that it sorta kinda reminds you two of "sigils" doesn't make it by necessity one. It reminds me of a piece of circuit instead. So you *might* be right. Just *might*. All right, yes. He might be right, but I felt that the probability was so close that I rounded it off to "is." It's got a start point and an end point, and it's actually very reminiscent of some of the basic sigil-making texts I've read, at least the ones that use a letter ring. Tom says he made it up, and sure he might have just scribbled out a squiggly quasi-mystical thing but I doubt it. He's not much of a scribbler and has revealed via his plotting that few things go past us on these pages that are just thoughtless fluff.
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Post by ih8pkmn on Aug 6, 2010 21:26:50 GMT
If, and only IF, Kat DOES have a power, what is it? Increased Brain function? Increased understanding? The ability to spontaneously generate light bulbs? Maybe it's something electrical, and she'll be able to shoot lightning from her hands! What? it would be awesome...
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Post by wanderer on Aug 6, 2010 23:34:00 GMT
Kat's really got a connection to birds, huh? Looks like she's got something figured out, at least. Show those Court folks what-for, Kat!
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Post by Ulysses on Aug 7, 2010 0:22:49 GMT
To be able to take the wing bones and extrapolate how they could be used in Robot would require to know the structure of the wing, so she has either done the research as an extension of her bird "thing", or she's seeing into the wing. Which is it, I wonder?
Also: knowing how things work? Wasn't that Sylar's original power? Hehe.
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Post by theweatherman on Aug 7, 2010 0:25:39 GMT
HA!
I called it! Who did? I did!
Ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha
So anyway, with all the discussion going on about how kat's ability isn't really magical, I disagree, it's one thing to have a moment of brilliance, but she's actually seeing through the birds feathers and flesh. Seems like a etheric ability to me.
Plus that with the weird circuit like diagrams on the bird's bones (the one above the bird's actual bones) it looks like she's either seeing the broken parts or she's noticing the available movement.
In short, ha, I was right, Kat rocks socks.
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Post by Per on Aug 7, 2010 0:49:53 GMT
I'm with those who see an artistic representation of a moment of inspiration.
Edit: A moment of inspiration involving the purple flame of weird science.
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Post by Alex on Aug 7, 2010 3:03:03 GMT
Funny, my first thought was that the bird was actually a baby tictoc and she was seeing inside it.
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Post by legion on Aug 7, 2010 3:15:56 GMT
Possible compromise: she doesn't *literally* see through X-ray fashion, but she *understands how it works and gets a perfect mental representation*, super etheric powered analysis, if you will.
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Post by TBeholder on Aug 7, 2010 4:07:49 GMT
He *may* be right, but I'd bet money that he's wrong. Well, it's Gunnerkrigg we're discussing. Unpredictable twists always were among its main merits... EDITED TO ADD: I rather dislike assumption atop of assumptions stated as facts. There's nothing to show or indicate that And what isn't? This way you'll soon become warlike about "everything everyone said is IMHO". Or something else normally dropped as too trivial to worth a mention. To be able to take the wing bones and extrapolate how they could be used in Robot would require to know the structure of the wing, so she has either done the research as an extension of her bird "thing", or she's seeing into the wing. Which is it, I wonder? Ornithological journals! ;D Possible compromise: she doesn't *literally* see through X-ray fashion, but she *understands how it works and gets a perfect mental representation*, super etheric powered analysis, if you will. That is, just "sees" not it, but how it works? Got a similar impression.
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Post by bookworm on Aug 7, 2010 12:49:49 GMT
Possible compromise: she doesn't *literally* see through X-ray fashion, but she *understands how it works and gets a perfect mental representation*, super etheric powered analysis, if you will. That is, just "sees" not it, but how it works? Got a similar impression. Yeah, that's what I thought too Especially because Tom has mentioned somewhere (Formspring, probably) that Kat's special ability is her skill in technology. EDIT: Ah, here we go- www.formspring.me/gunnerkrigg/q/540415905
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Post by Snes on Aug 7, 2010 20:00:48 GMT
So anyway, with all the discussion going on about how kat's ability isn't really magical, I disagree, it's one thing to have a moment of brilliance, but she's actually seeing through the birds feathers and flesh. Seems like a etheric ability to me. Plus that with the weird circuit like diagrams on the bird's bones (the one above the bird's actual bones) it looks like she's either seeing the broken parts or she's noticing the available movement. In short, ha, I was right, Kat rocks socks. She's not seeing through anything. It's entirely possible that she already knows how a bird's wing functions and what all the bones look like. It's just now that she's had an idea of a way that design could be implemented with robotics. That's what the circuit diagrams are; they're her newly-inspired blueprints. And the bird's wing isn't broken. Paz and Bobby certainly would have caught that.
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Post by Casey on Aug 7, 2010 21:11:24 GMT
It will turn out that Kat is actually the inventor of the Tic Tocs, whom she sends back through time in order to keep an eye on the young Court.
You heard it here first.
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Post by legion on Aug 7, 2010 21:13:07 GMT
It will turn out that Kat is actually the inventor of the Tic Tocs, whom she sends back through time in order to keep an eye on the young Court. You heard it here first. That… would actually make sense.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Aug 7, 2010 21:22:57 GMT
The symbol is a sigil. You have a grid or circle with letters on it and the points where the line lands represent letters in the word encoded in the sigil. The trouble is, if you don't have the original grid/circle, then you can't decode it. You can see en example here : www.magick-instinct.org/Chaos/sigils.htmThe question is, has Tom ever shown such a grid or circle of letters in the comic? This, this, and this are sort of close, but they're just more symbols. Well, there's also the circle inside the ouroboros in the Third Treatise: "Earth | Air | Water || Finite Good". But those letters seem too close together for Kat's symbol to work as a decoder. Hey, what does wikipedia have to say about the Ouroborus? OH SNAP
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Post by theweatherman on Aug 7, 2010 21:55:48 GMT
So anyway, with all the discussion going on about how kat's ability isn't really magical, I disagree, it's one thing to have a moment of brilliance, but she's actually seeing through the birds feathers and flesh. Seems like a etheric ability to me. Plus that with the weird circuit like diagrams on the bird's bones (the one above the bird's actual bones) it looks like she's either seeing the broken parts or she's noticing the available movement. In short, ha, I was right, Kat rocks socks. She's not seeing through anything. It's entirely possible that she already knows how a bird's wing functions and what all the bones look like. It's just now that she's had an idea of a way that design could be implemented with robotics. That's what the circuit diagrams are; they're her newly-inspired blueprints. And the bird's wing isn't broken. Paz and Bobby certainly would have caught that. Kat doesn't know much about birds, considering her...fetish, it's likely she wasn't bothered with pictures of bones but the actual birds themselves. I know this is true cos Tom said so. Yeah the bird's wing is probably fine, but why did the bird just jump up like that for no reason? I thought it might be a broken bone and it jumped up out of pain. Don't prove me wrong, it's very rare I'm right so I need to overly enjoy my victories when I can ^^'
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Post by aaroncampbell on Aug 8, 2010 23:27:26 GMT
It will turn out that Kat is actually the inventor of the Tic Tocs, whom she sends back through time in order to keep an eye on the young Court. You heard it here first. That… would actually make sense. It would make sense; if Kat can invent anti-gravity technology, there's no reason why she couldn't do time travel. But... oy, time travel? Tom would have to work hard to avoid making that look cliche or contrived. Then again, Tom is to storytelling what Kat is to technology -- if anyone can do it, he can! :-)
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Post by Chrome on Aug 8, 2010 23:38:03 GMT
I think Paz mentioned he twisted his foot a little? That'd explain the bird jumping up like that.
As for Kat and the Tic-Tocs....she may well invent them...but who says she has to be the one to throw them back in time? *Glances at the ever-mischevious Coyote and coughs to make an example* Lots of other characters out there, possibly with abilities like that to take that job off Kat's hands, and make it believable enough to stick.
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Post by Gemini Jim on Aug 9, 2010 5:26:18 GMT
Oh, I'm sure Kat can figure out a time machine. the hard part will be finding an energy source powerful enough to provide the 1.21 jiggawatts needed ;D [ Annie: "oh no, I'm not going back THERE again" ]
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Post by Flux on Aug 9, 2010 9:17:08 GMT
Just noticed on reread: Second panel: Looks like the arm of a bird in the down-left corner. Maybe Kat's inspiration came from her short glance on Diego's original designs.
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Post by atteSmythe on Aug 9, 2010 21:50:10 GMT
It will turn out that Kat is actually the inventor of the Tic Tocs, whom she sends back through time in order to keep an eye on the young Court. You heard it here first. Interesting and fascinating... and if Diego learned his craft by studying a fallen Tic Toc, that would make Kat an angel of her own 'religion,' as she'd be the ultimate creating force behind the robots. And she neatly avoids one paradox (mostly) by rejecting the chance to learn from Diego's designs. I kind of like adding Diego to the mix, because it would help explain how the knowledge of the creation and service of robots vanished. Does Diego seem like the sort of man to admit he was stealing designs, rather than inventing them? Aside from requiring time travel, I rather like it.
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Post by warrl on Aug 11, 2010 19:09:41 GMT
He *may* be right, but I'd bet money that he's wrong. EDITED TO ADD: I rather dislike assumption atop of assumptions stated as facts. There's nothing to show or indicate that this is a "sigil". It may be, but that it sorta kinda reminds you two of "sigils" doesn't make it by necessity one. It reminds me of a piece of circuit instead. So you *might* be right. Just *might*. A sketchbook entry from an unrelated comic seems appropriate here... (The squirrel-person on the right is the artist; the bunny on the left represents the fan community. The comic it's from is El Goonish Shive.)
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