optern
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Post by optern on Apr 12, 2010 7:05:47 GMT
LinkWell, it seems that they've entered it now with no further problems, and Jack is definitely going higher and higher on the paranoid scale. Also, this is the page the chapter icon is from.
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Post by Snes on Apr 12, 2010 7:11:16 GMT
Those are some impressive-looking gizmos, Jackie.
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Post by Refugee on Apr 12, 2010 7:11:24 GMT
Um, Jack? Next time, make your secret spy stuff not announce its presence with lights, m'kay?
I love the big generators in frame 1; I can hear them roar.
Question: if Jack can make these, what are the chances the Court has something like them built in? If so, what was the Guard-bot for?
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Post by eightyfour on Apr 12, 2010 7:14:10 GMT
Those are some impressive-looking gizmos, Jackie. Impressive, indeed. They look just like booby traps.
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timid
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Post by timid on Apr 12, 2010 7:15:59 GMT
Um, Jack? Next time, make your secret spy stuff not announce its presence with lights, m'kay?. . . Actually, that's all part of the plan: whoever notices it will come closer to investigate then it explodes right on their faces and Jack will hear the noise and he would know!
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Post by Refugee on Apr 12, 2010 7:16:25 GMT
Those are some impressive-looking gizmos, Jackie. Impressive, indeed. They look just like booby traps. Crap, I did not think of that. Yeah, a bang would be a definite clue that you're being followed.
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Post by Amethyst on Apr 12, 2010 7:23:23 GMT
That room looks like the sort of place I'd see Batman swooping down into, silently taking out a guard and disappearing back into the shadows.
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Post by centzontotochtin on Apr 12, 2010 7:31:16 GMT
Smart move, Jack, considering you smashed a likely-monitored guardbot and then left the murder weapon with your fingerprints on it behind.
The machinery in the room looks pretty inscrutable. It really gives off the feel of complexity and mystery behind the Court and power station, even though its inner workings are clearly visible.
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Post by hal9000 on Apr 12, 2010 7:33:06 GMT
Impressive, indeed. They look just like booby traps. Crap, I did not think of that. Yeah, a bang would be a definite clue that you're being followed. Claymore antipersonnel mine, anyone? Still, I can't help but think that Jack might have more than mild difficulty obtaining actual high explosives while on the run from the authorities. It's possible of course, but I doubt it.
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Post by sostorm on Apr 12, 2010 7:55:15 GMT
Nice technology. Considering how "court-like" they look I'm wondering if he really has constructed them himself and if it's not just something he's found/stolen/repaired.
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Post by November on Apr 12, 2010 8:19:33 GMT
Nice technology. Considering how "court-like" they look I'm wondering if he really has constructed them himself and if it's not just something he's found/stolen/repaired. It says under the comic they're homemade. And Court technology is usually pictured with a blue/grey colour scheme, these were more reddish brown. I think Jack is probably smarter than we think, as smart as or at least almost as smart as Kat, considering they used the same method to surpass the security cameras. It's just that he's insane, and his lack of sleep and food makes him extra ... grumpy. I think all this Jack-hatin' needs to stop, he's just a very confused kid. Also, I think Annie dealt with the Birmingham-thing better than Jack, because Jack's father despises magic, so Annie is more used to the stuff. Also, we don't know the deal with the spider (though I don't think it's so crucial as everyone wants it to be)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2010 9:04:37 GMT
Smart move, Jack, considering you smashed a likely-monitored guardbot and then left the murder weapon with your fingerprints on it behind. Nobody cares about those robots other than Annie and Kat, and it's impossible to murder a machine. The Court'll just sweep it up and install a new one in its place. Good riddance, too, that one sucked at its job. Also, Annie looks sooo annoyed at Jack. It makes me laugh. Isn't it weird that this chapter is actually making me like HER less, and not the other way around? I doubt that was the intention. I don't like Jack too much either, but Annie's becoming a bit... ehh. I can trace the beginning of my growing dislike of her back to Chapters 20 and 21, but I can't pin down exactly what it is. Edit: A growing, somewhat smug sense of self-righteousness is part of it. Then again, she is a teenager.
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Flux
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Post by Flux on Apr 12, 2010 9:15:44 GMT
I don't see any explosives. Can it not just be some kind of alarm instead of a bomb?
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Post by timid on Apr 12, 2010 9:49:11 GMT
I don't see any explosives. Can it not just be some kind of alarm insted of a bomb? Why yes, yes it can. T'would be boring though. Explosions makes things. . . not boring. . .
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Post by Mr Pitchfork on Apr 12, 2010 10:01:11 GMT
I think Tom said that Jack was a far better roboticist than Kat. And also that Gamma is far more etherically gifted than Annie.
Which leads me to believe: the main characters Annie, Kat, and Renard, are not near as powerful as the important secondary characters. It is certainly a far more interesting climate than, say superhero comics.
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Post by starburst98 on Apr 12, 2010 10:07:28 GMT
anyone notice they look like insects? the six stubby ends, the two antenna.
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Post by November on Apr 12, 2010 10:15:30 GMT
I think Tom said that Jack was a far better roboticist than Kat. And also that Gamma is far more etherically gifted than Annie. Yeah, I think so too. Kat mostly put stuff together, while Jack makes small alarm(bomb?)s from scratch. And Gamma is much better at calming down Zimmy compared to how Annie did it.
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Post by legion on Apr 12, 2010 11:01:52 GMT
"Stick"!
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Post by centzontotochtin on Apr 12, 2010 11:15:22 GMT
Smart move, Jack, considering you smashed a likely-monitored guardbot and then left the murder weapon with your fingerprints on it behind. Nobody cares about those robots other than Annie and Kat, and it's impossible to murder a machine. The Court'll just sweep it up and install a new one in its place. Good riddance, too, that one sucked at its job. The act of destruction in and of itself isn't really that relevant outside of damage to equipment. What I was referring to is that Jack broke part of a security system, signalling any and all who care to investigate that someone has gotten somewhere they aren't supposed to be. With the instrument of destruction being left at the scene, it will probably be scrutinized for any form of evidence as to whodunnit. I probably should've been more clear in my first post, but it was like three-thirty in the morning where I am when I posted it.
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Post by jon77 on Apr 12, 2010 11:32:20 GMT
"Now what are you doing?" "Plot device." "It'll provide a convenient deus ex machina in 5 or 6 pages."
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Post by rallan on Apr 12, 2010 11:58:30 GMT
"Now what are you doing?" "Plot device." "It'll provide a convenient deus ex machina in 5 or 6 pages." alternate explanation. "Now what are you doing?" "Character development." "Anyone reads this page, they'll know I'm a genius inventor who's downright paranoid about planning stunts like this."
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Post by Aricos on Apr 12, 2010 12:09:22 GMT
anyone notice they look like insects? the six stubby ends, the two antenna. Glad to know I wasn't the only one thinking they looked kinda like insects. Kinda like de-legged insects... (Maybe Jack's spidery companion got hungry and munched on some robotic insect legs ?)
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Post by todd on Apr 12, 2010 12:46:48 GMT
If Jack's theory about the Court tracking the students is correct, he's probably increased his likelihood of being discovered simply by bringing Annie with him. Even if he's shielded himself from being picked up on their monitoring systems by not eating, the monitoring systems would still detect her.
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Post by todd on Apr 12, 2010 12:50:09 GMT
And Gamma is much better at calming down Zimmy compared to how Annie did it. I've sometimes wondered whether that detail might be metafictional; we know that Tom originally created Zimmy and Gamma before, and independent of, "Gunnerkrigg Court". Could Gamma be better at handling Annie because she's more part of Zimmy's continuity than Annie is?
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Post by linnabean on Apr 12, 2010 12:51:33 GMT
Um, Jack? Next time, make your secret spy stuff not announce its presence with lights, m'kay?. . . Actually, that's all part of the plan: whoever notices it will come closer to investigate then it explodes right on their faces and Jack will hear the noise and he would know! ruh roh. i'm loving the creepy half smile in the second to last panel.
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Post by Adam on Apr 12, 2010 12:52:21 GMT
I think Tom said that Jack was a far better roboticist than Kat. And also that Gamma is far more etherically gifted than Annie. Which leads me to believe: the main characters Annie, Kat, and Renard, are not near as powerful as the important secondary characters. It is certainly a far more interesting climate than, say superhero comics. Actually it's the other way around -- see here.
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Post by Casey on Apr 12, 2010 13:46:40 GMT
Nobody cares about those robots other than Annie and Kat, and it's impossible to murder a machine. It is true, a robot is nothing but a machine. ...in the real world, that is. It is not true that a robot is nothing but a machine in the Gunnerkrigg Court world, however. Tom has clearly and repeatedly established that they are alive: whether or not the staff of the Court want to acknowledge that or treat them as such is irrelevant, and doesn't make it any less true. Whether or not Annie and Kat are the only ones who have bothered to discover this fact also doesn't make it any less true. It is true, they know it, Jack even knew it once, and we the readers are supposed to know it.
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Post by eightyfour on Apr 12, 2010 13:47:09 GMT
Still, I can't help but think that Jack might have more than mild difficulty obtaining actual high explosives while on the run from the authorities. It's possible of course, but I doubt it. For a kid with Jack's talents it shouldn't be too difficult to mix some stuff that goes boom from basic household chemicals, of which he should find plenty in the school's labs and janitor's closets. And I really don't think normal locks are a problem for him. ;D I don't see any explosives. Can it not just be some kind of alarm instead of a bomb? Well, I don't see any explosives either. But I do see the devices are based on three cyllindric objects with closed ends. Which of course may just be batteries, they just remind me of homemade pipe bombs. They are kinda small to contain a significant amount of explosives anyway, so you're probably right.
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Post by GK Sierra on Apr 12, 2010 14:15:59 GMT
Nice technology. Considering how "court-like" they look I'm wondering if he really has constructed them himself and if it's not just something he's found/stolen/repaired. It says under the comic they're homemade. And Court technology is usually pictured with a blue/grey colour scheme, these were more reddish brown. I think Jack is probably smarter than we think, as smart as or at least almost as smart as Kat, considering they used the same method to surpass the security cameras. It's just that he's insane, and his lack of sleep and food makes him extra ... grumpy. I think all this Jack-hatin' needs to stop, he's just a very confused kid. Also, I think Annie dealt with the Birmingham-thing better than Jack, because Jack's father despises magic, so Annie is more used to the stuff. Also, we don't know the deal with the spider (though I don't think it's so crucial as everyone wants it to be) Yeah, Hyland Sr. Hates magic. Anyone else think this is going to play an important role when we finally get to know Jack's back story?
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Post by drakebloodiv on Apr 12, 2010 14:43:51 GMT
Still, I can't help but think that Jack might have more than mild difficulty obtaining actual high explosives while on the run from the authorities. It's possible of course, but I doubt it. Compressed air could substitute in for explosives, in a fix. Either have the thing fill with air till it fails violently, or have it shoot off like a bullet using compressed air to propel itself.
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